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I wish he would retire so we could finally get two buttons on the trackpad on a MBP. I dont think the company would miss a beat without him. He is just a person.

I agree. He is an amazing CEO, but that's it. People need to realize that he is in his mid 50s and has had a bout with the most fatal cancer out there. He is not going to be around forever, its its ludicrous to think Apple won't survive without him.
 
Funny you have said that...

I wish he would retire so we could finally get two buttons on the trackpad on a MBP. I dont think the company would miss a beat without him. He is just a person.

you must have missed what happened to Apple when he first left and the success that followed after he came back.

He must just be human, but not every man is Steve Jobs.
 
He confided in someone with a LEGAL basis to withhold information while also having the CREDIBILITY to report accurately the conclusion. A SPECIAL MASTER of sorts.

The reporter is ethically bound to keep it off the record, but it he legally bound to do so? I don't think he is, unless he signed some sort of NDA.

The thing is, Steve Jobs thought that he could intimidate the journalist to keep quiet, shut up, and never write anything that could "damage the image". Unfortunately for Apple, Stevie boy came across as an amateur. ... It's great to know that some fanboys think highly of huge corporations trying to intimidate the free press

That doesn't make any sense. Who tries to intimidate a reporter into silence by telling him the secret that everybody's trying to figure out? Jobs knew exactly what would happen: he'd write a story telling people that all is well. And of course the reporter will oblige, considering how rare a phone call like that is. It was classic Jobs.
 
I personally think that Steve's health should be private, how would you like everyone on the web to know what conditions you may have? Just knowing that Steve will be OK is fine for me :)

I wonder if you would feel the same if you had several thousand tied up in Apple stock. If anything should happen to Steve before they groom a suitable replacement, Apple stock would plummet. Now, if I was thinking of buying stock in Apple, I'd sure as heck want to know the nature of Steve's health because his name is intertwined with the Apple brand. Steve being sick is the same as Apple being sick. As an investor, people have a right to know. Steve gave up his privacy when he became CEO and brain of Apple. Get it?
 
You left out the best bit:

“This is Steve Jobs. You think I’m an arrogant [expletive] who thinks he’s above the law, and I think you’re a slime bucket who gets most of his facts wrong.”

Certainly sounds like he's feeling better

*right click = control+click

and there shall be no blaspheming of the holy name of steve jobs. he is more than man. he is legend. :D
*bows down and worships*

lol - well said
 
The reporter is ethically bound to keep it off the record, but it he legally bound to do so? I don't think he is, unless he signed some sort of NDA.



That doesn't make any sense. Who tries to intimidate a reporter into silence by telling him the secret that everybody's trying to figure out? Jobs knew exactly what would happen: he'd write a story telling people that all is well. And of course the reporter will oblige, considering how rare a phone call like that is. It was classic Jobs.

If the reporter divulged something that was off the record then he's pretty much out of a job because no source would ever talk to him again.
 
I wonder if you would feel the same if you had several thousand tied up in Apple stock. If anything should happen to Steve before they groom a suitable replacement, Apple stock would plummet. Now, if I was thinking of buying stock in Apple, I'd sure as heck want to know the nature of Steve's health because his name is intertwined with the Apple brand. Steve being sick is the same as Apple being sick. As an investor, people have a right to know. Steve gave up his privacy when he became CEO and brain of Apple. Get it?
Unfortunately true. There is only one SJ, POTUS, Brangelina, etc.
There daily health is important to many people.
Even more so when you are the brain trust and architect of what Apple has become.
 
Because nobody would (or did) "try".
This is not intimidation,
this is the way high powered individuals deal with each other all the time,
and both sides seem to enjoy it!

Wow! What a load of bollocky speculation! Read the goddamn "introduction" Jobs served the reporter. Pure intimidation tactics: Try to throw the reporter off his legs, surpirse him, and while you're at it, make it personal, first by pretending the reporter has a specific opinion, and then you go on to attack his integrity as a journalist. Politicians have been using those tactic for decades.

Further, Jobs apparently was very annoyed byt his particular reporter, otherwise why the hell would he phone him in person, secondly, by forcing the reporter to promise to go off-the-record, yet divulging information, the moment the reporter then talks about this or that, the reporter will be in an ethical dilemma, because he promised not to divulge any of it, no matter if he had gotten it more or less correct in the precious article. So you guys seriously think that Jobs phoned him for no other purpose than to chat with "another high powered person" and to divulge this in order to NOT shut him up?
 
If the reporter divulged something that was off the record then he's pretty much out of a job because no source would ever talk to him again.

Well of course. Even without thinking of future sources, the fear of crossing Steve Jobs should be enough to prevent him from revealing any details.
 
Wow! What a load of bollocky speculation! Read the goddamn "introduction" Jobs served the reporter. Pure intimidation tactics: Try to throw the reporter off his legs, surpirse him, and while you're at it, make it personal, first by pretending the reporter has a specific opinion, and then you go on to attack his integrity as a journalist. Politicians have been using those tactic for decades.
LOL
If intimidation means giving a reporter the scoop of the day, then bring it on!
I doubt anyone at the NYTimes would agree with your position.
 
As much as I wish for Steve's continued health, I feel that Apple PR (and Jobs himself) has handled this entire issue terribly. They can issue statements of denial until they're blue in the face, but they mean absolutely nothing until we hear an official comment from Steve himself.

So, that said, why doesn't he pen another open letter? It would serve to assuage the fears of both Apple shareholders and the technology community, while at the same time earn him a little goodwill that was lost when the whole "he concealed his pancreatic cancer for nine months" thing came to light. Either he'll have a new health issue to share (and it sounds like he does), or he'll put the fears of many to rest for quite a while. Either way it's a win-win for Apple: if he's ill again, at least they're disclosing it; if he's not, so much the better.

The entire world of Apple is based on a culture of deep secrecy. However, as the most valuable man in the consumer electronics industry, Jobs' right to healthcare privacy is, IMHO, essentially nonexistent. Though they don't have a legal responsibility to do any of the things I've suggested, the company can't afford to be anything less than completely transparent in this case. The fact that they have not been, and the fact that there hasn't been widespread outrage because of this, boggles the mind.

You are so wrong on so many levels. You are talking about a man's private health. You,me, the shareholders, the media...no one deserves this man's private information unless he offers it up. It appears that on some level that is what this brief phone "interview" is.

I wish he would pen another open letter:

Steve Jobs said:
Dear Public:

Thank you so much for your concern regarding my health and please stay the f**k out of my personal life. Thank you.

p.s. Please purchase iPhones and other Apple products!


Love,
Steve
 
His illness could have simply been exhaustion working to get out the iPhone3G and finishing the beta tests of the new product that is coming this quarter....getting it sent off to manufacturing.


As for 2 buttons on a trackpad...I am happy with the two fingers+click for a right click....and with multitouch growing in versatility, the next step may be 0 buttons on the pad.


.:R2theT - Well stated.
 
LOL
If intimidation means giving a reporter the scoop of the day, then bring it on!
I doubt anyone at the NYTimes would agree with your position.

You are simply amazing:

Let me repeat (my emphasis):
Jobs apparently was very annoyed byt his particular reporter, otherwise why the hell would he phone him in person, secondly, by forcing the reporter to promise to go off-the-record, yet divulging information, the moment the reporter then talks about this or that, the reporter will be in an ethical dilemma, because he promised not to divulge any of it, no matter if he had gotten it more or less correct in the precious article. So you guys seriously think that Jobs phoned him for no other purpose than to chat with "another high powered person" and to divulge this in order to NOT shut him up?
 
Ive never really seen a nerd such as SJ!

And well.... irrespective of if he's a jerk or not, he's worth $20 billion every hour to Apple!:D

P.S.: A recent survey quoted that the minute he left (as of June 15th 2008), Apple's stocks will bleed $20 billion in the first hour after his leaving!
 
The rumor I have heard is that he has had digestive issues, maybe related to his original Pancreatic cancer surgery and recovery, but not malignant.
But to the privacy issue.
Can you imagine POTUS not having every part of his or her medical exam and records being made public? Even candidates divulge their medical records.
 
Read the goddamn "introduction" Jobs served the reporter. Pure intimidation tactics: Try to throw the reporter off his legs, surpirse him, and while you're at it, make it personal, first by pretending the reporter has a specific opinion, and then you go on to attack his integrity as a journalist. Politicians have been using those tactic for decades.

You're leaving out the part about what happened after the introduction. I can guarantee that the reporter was not complaining about getting Jobs on the line. Not just anyone gets that kind of personal attention from Jobs.

You call it dastardly intimidation of a "free" press. I call it "This is how Jobs deals with people."
 
The rumor I have heard is that he has had digestive issues, maybe related to his original Pancreatic cancer surgery and recovery, but not malignant.
Yes, compounded by the fact that he's a vegan.


But to the privacy issue.
Can you imagine POTUS not having every part of his or her medical exam and records being made public? Even candidates divulge their medical records.

I agree. And in Apple's case, where they have made the CEO "the innovator" and "the face" of the entire corporation, of course it matters to shareholders.
 
As for 2 buttons on a trackpad...I am happy with the two fingers+click for a right click....and with multitouch growing in versatility, the next step may be 0 buttons on the pad.

Exactly, who cares about the second button? I mean really.

What I want is a power button on my keyboard. That's what's missing.
 
You're leaving out the part about what happened after the introduction. I can guarantee that the reporter was not complaining about getting Jobs on the line.
Sigh … Reread my post. I wasn't talking about phoning only. And I'm not leaving anything out either. Au contraire, you seem to be doing that.


Not just anyone gets that kind of personal attention from Jobs.
Reread my posts. You obviously skipped any- and everything from the phone call onwards.


You call it dastardly intimidation of a "free" press. I call it "This is how Jobs deals with people."
Yes, it can be that too. I call it amateurish attempts at intimidation.
 
Likely illness

His illness could have simply been exhaustion working to get out the iPhone3G and finishing the beta tests of the new product that is coming this quarter....getting it sent off to manufacturing.


As for 2 buttons on a trackpad...I am happy with the two fingers+click for a right click....and with multitouch growing in versatility, the next step may be 0 buttons on the pad.


.:R2theT - Well stated.

His illness was any range of things from a stenosis of the anastomotic junction between his stomach and jejunum resulting from his original pancreaticoduodenectomy to 'dumping syndrome' to adhesional problems and even what Steve himself said - 'a bug'.

Why yes, I am a junior surgeon...
 
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