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His illness was any range of things from a stenosis of the anastomotic junction between his stomach and jejunum resulting from his original pancreaticoduodenectomy to 'dumping syndrome' to adhesional problems

Oh no! Is it serious? Will he be OK?!
 
I'm hoping and praying Steve will be around and at the helm of Apple for a good long time to come.

Steve Jobs is the heart and soul of Apple. I fear that without Steve at the helm, Apple would slowly return to the Apple of the mid-1990s... :eek:
 
Sigh … Reread my post. I wasn't talking about phoning only. And I'm not leaving anything out either. Au contraire, you seem to be doing that.

I read all your posts, but I had to carefully sift through the vitriol, ad hominem attacks, and pleas for attention (e.g., "Let me repeat" followed by a irrelevant repost).* I only responded to the useful bits, where it was worth pointing out that I disagree with your interpretation. I'm not sure why I need to go over them again. Maybe your words are just too profound for me to understand.**

* Here, you seemingly responded to a different point of view by repeating your previous words.
** I went back over them anyway. Yes, you did not leave out what happened after the introduction. But I still disagree with your conclusions for reasons previously explained.
 
I read all your posts, but I had to carefully sift through the vitriol, ad hominem attacks, and pleas for attention (e.g., "Let me repeat" followed by a irrelevant repost).
You are unbelieveable. The part of the post I repeated was revelant, but the most revelant was the part I put in bold. You pretending it was irrelevant, filled with ad hominems and "pleas for attention" doesn't make it so.

I only responded to the useful bits, where it was worth pointing out that I disagree with your interpretation.
Nope. You took half a line, pretended it was all I said, and then accused me of leaving things out.


I'm not sure why I need to go over them again.
When you pretend I didn't write something, when I clearly did, and you comment like I said something completely different than I did, yes, I do think it would be nice if you reread, because if you're not willing to read and understand what the other part is saying/writing, then it's useless actually writing replies to you.


Maybe your words are just too profound for me to understand.
Well, if you don't read them and/or ignore them, then who knows?
 
Wow! What a load of bollocky speculation! Read the goddamn "introduction" Jobs served the reporter. Pure intimidation tactics: Try to throw the reporter off his legs, surpirse him, and while you're at it, make it personal, first by pretending the reporter has a specific opinion, and then you go on to attack his integrity as a journalist. Politicians have been using those tactic for decades.

Except that Nocera isn't a "Journalist" per se. He's a columnist, who presents his own opinions, and has been for a long, long time. Jobs was correct on both counts: he himself is an arrogant prick, and Nocera is precisely the same except that as he's never had an idea of his own, he makes his mark by socializing with the rich and powerful and publishing what basically amounts to Brangelina gossip columns on industry.

Edit to add: Nocera is also deeply involved with the big hedge funds and is widely known to be one of their market-manipulation mouthpieces. Long story short, the guy makes millions as a serial liar and spreader of rumor and innuendo.
 
Influenza

The Flu is a lot more serious than "a common bug", particularly for a cancer survivor.

I speculate he had the flu.
 
That's from an amateur.

*sigh* Sooooooo naive.

Hmm, you call that behaviour professional?
And about me being an amateur or naive? I can tell you don't know what I do for a living :rolleyes:

To me it's naive to think Jobs phoned the reporter just so he could "share the moment". Seriously, why the hell do you think he phoned the guy in person?
 
Which is no way as convenient or fast as a 2nd physical button.

Just put it in, geesh, it's so stupid already.

Actually, there are better ways that are faster and more convenient options to do this simple bloody task already.
:rolleyes:
 
WannaGoMac said:
Which is no way as convenient or fast as a 2nd physical button. Just put it in, geesh, it's so stupid already.
Actually, there are better ways that are faster and more convenient options to do this simple bloody task already.
:rolleyes:

Correct. Where, in Mac OS X, is a right click necessary? The times are few and far between. Manipulating links in Safari is one of the few times I can think of.

Design without requiring contextual menus is an Apple philosophy. I think it works well: nobody wants something like the Windows taskbar, where you get one menu with a left click and a different menu with a right click. That's just preposterous.* Windows, where you have to search in multiple places to find the action you're looking for (when there's no good reason that something is only in a contextual menu). I'm also not a fan of the Unix way, where many programs require three buttons and have a different idea of what you should do with them.

Regardless, Apple has addressed right-clicking for the a masses: the Mighty Mouse has four "buttons" and if you have a post-2005 Apple laptop, put two fingers on the trackpad and click. You're also free to use any other mouse.

That's all I'll say, since this topic has been beaten to death over the past few decades. And personally, I like keystrokes and modifier keys whenever possible.

* OK, the Mac has this too in the Safari toolbar and in the dock. It's still bad design, but I can't think of an alternative.
 
Correct. Where, in Mac OS X, is a right click necessary? The times are few and far between. Manipulating links in Safari is one of the few times I can think of.

Design without requiring contextual menus is an Apple philosophy. I think it works well: nobody wants something like the Windows taskbar, where you get one menu with a left click and a different menu with a right click. That's just preposterous. I'm also not a fan of the Unix way, where many programs require three buttons and have a different idea of what you should do with them.

Regardless, Apple has addressed right-clicking for the a masses: the Mighty Mouse has four "buttons" and if you have a post-2005 Apple laptop, put two fingers on the trackpad and click. You're also free to use any other mouse.

That's all I'll say, since this topic has been beaten to death over the past few decades.
All that is nice, but I have to agree it would be much easier to just give us a second button.
 
I personally think that Steve's health should be private, how would you like everyone on the web to know what conditions you may have? Just knowing that Steve will be OK is fine for me :)

Your sentiments reflect mine exactly.
Best wishes to you, Steve!
 
The reporter got the info on Thursday. Released it late Saturday?

So if he anticipated a pop in the stock on this news (which I expect a bit), he had all day Friday to load up shares while sitting on the story. Lucky him.
 
His illness was any range of things from a stenosis of the anastomotic junction between his stomach and jejunum resulting from his original pancreaticoduodenectomy to 'dumping syndrome' to adhesional problems and even what Steve himself said - 'a bug'.

Why yes, I am a junior surgeon...

Another surgeon also has some interesting thoughts (EDIT: hStack beat me to it)
about what might be the cause of the problems.

His refreshing conclusion:

Jobs' appearance (at least as far as I can tell from the limited information that I have) is almost certainly not due to a recurrence of his tumor, and it's not something that can't be fixed. Chances are Jobs will be fine, and will remain as cantankerous, arrogant, dictatorial, and wildly visionary as ever for many years to come. Whether he'll choose to remain at Apple for many years to come, of course, no one but Jobs can say, but it's unlikely to be his current health problems that motivate him to leave, when leave he inevitably does.

As for the reason Jobs called up the reporter: "Off-the-record" or not, IMHO it wouldn't make any sense for him to make that call if he didn't anticipate the info being published. If all he wanted was to try and intimidate the guy, it would have been enough to insult him without sharing any additional info.

Also, the "Jobs is ill"-rumors have hurt Apple's stock price, so from a business standpoint it's good for Apple if he counters those speculations. From a personal standpoint it should be a private matter, of course, but Jobs knows everyone's wondering about his health, and if he really were keen on keeping it private, then why would he volunteer the info to a reporter at all (even off-the-record)?

Lastly, with only the written words we cannot tell the spirit and tone in which Jobs said his introduction. It could be anything from an angry attack to some wry humor to set the mood. I'd vote for the latter, but since I don't know Jobs personally, that's pure speculation on my part.
 
“This is Steve Jobs,” he began. “You think I’m an arrogant [expletive] who thinks he’s above the law, and I think you’re a slime bucket who gets most of his facts wrong.”


I think I would crap my pants...... I wonder what it feels like to get pwnd by Steve.

Ditto. That would scare the hell out of me. After I was sure my friends weren't messing with me... :)

I wish he would retire so we could finally get two buttons on the trackpad on a MBP. I dont think the company would miss a beat without him. He is just a person.

blasphemy! It's part of what makes Apple different. There is no need for a secondary button. There is the double tap thing and the sensor on the MightyMouse. Just deal with it or get a PC.
 
The reporter is ethically bound to keep it off the record, but it he legally bound to do so? I don't think he is, unless he signed some sort of NDA.

Well, kinda. He has the ability to stay silent under threat of court ordered contempt of court charges. That seems unlikely with no cause of action pending. Also the reporter is not the primary source for that information. The doctor and the medical records are, and I think a judge would actually have an easier time of it getting the medical records themselves, than compelling a reporter to say what someone told them about those medical records.

I stand on my original post despite the thoughtless critical posts since. This is the internet, after all, or it is really the intertoobs based on some of the replies? :D

Rocketman
 
His illness could have simply been exhaustion working to get out the iPhone3G and finishing the beta tests of the new product that is coming this quarter....getting it sent off to manufacturing.

You make is sound like he's actually doing the work! Steve has so many underlings and key people that he can have the luxury to just sit back and say "yes" and "no" to ideas. Seriously, the higher up you climb on the ladder, the less work you actually have to do. Sure, more pressure for success, but it's all a thinking mans game once you become Steve. Thinking and making decisions doesn't make you sick if you are good at it... and Steve certainly is.
 
*right click = control+click

and there shall be no blaspheming of the holy name of steve jobs. he is more than man. he is legend. :D
*bows down and worships*

Ctrl+Click is annoying, yes.

Placing two fingers on the trackpad and pressing the button with your thumb, however, isn't. It's far easier to navigate with one hand on a Mac trackpad than any 2 button PC trackpad with that stupid scroll edge.

My guess is the true reason for the resistance is that the two button option is annoying for left-handed people...

Apple is the type of company that, if they see a flaw with something, they won't implement it until they find a better way. That's why the iPhone has no copy/paste yet... they haven't found the most effective way. If they were all about following the norm, the iPhone would've been a flop (like the Google Android probably will be), the iPod wouldn't have led the MP3 player industry for so many years, and Macs would just be a bunch of PCs with less available applications.
 
He didn't get "pwned" in any way, form or fashion. If Stevie boy actually thought that the journalist who gets "most of his facts wrong", why on earth then phone him up directly? Why not go to another journalist? No, the thing is, Steve Jobs thought that he could intimidate the journalist to keep quiet, shut up, and never write anything that could "damage the image". Unfortunately for Apple, Stevie boy came across as an amateur.





It's great to know that some fanboys think highly of huge corporations trying to intimidate the free press. You guys really are something.




Fanboys :rolleyes:

I may be a fan... but I'm no tosser..
 
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