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This is not a man to idolize. He's a man to study and comprehend.

The thing that amuses me about the book is she is sharing tittle tattle details from a relationship that was 35 years ago. Steve Jobs didn't climax every time he had sex? My god. Is that really worthy of print? Is that really a detail anyone should know about anyone else? What possible reason would someone have to share a detail like that about someone.. let alone someone who has passed away. It just feels extremely low to me. How would each of us would feel if our first relationship that ended badly wrote a book about us after we'd died? Some may argue Steve's status and worship status means this book has to exist but I disagree. People worshipped Steve's work, not his sexual activities. Attack his business decisions, attack his work ethic. But don't tell me details about his sex life are worthy of public scrutiny.

Yep.. Steve wasn't perfect. He had a volatile relationship. He at times wasn't a nice person to be around. He had a child that he initially refused to admit was his. Guess what. That's life. No one is perfect. Plenty of people experience issues like this in their life. Show me someone who hasn't had a relationship end badly. Show me someone who doesn't have skeletons in a closet. Show me someone who feels 100% happy with how they acted in their late teens/early twenties when they look back in later life.

Yep Steve acted like an arse when it came to the paternity issue. But he later reconnected with his daughter. She even lived with him at one point and he funded her education. It's called life. We **** up. We learn. We repair. We try to find our way. We do our best.

Steve wasn't perfect. He wasn't an angel. I'm quite happy with that. But I don't need to be told gossip details of a relationship from 35 years ago. And she didn't need to write this book.
 
The thing that amuses me about the book is she is sharing tittle tattle details from a relationship that was 35 years ago. Steve Jobs didn't climax every time he had sex? My god. Is that really worthy of print? Is that really a detail anyone should know about anyone else? What possible reason would someone have to share a detail like that about someone.. let alone someone who has passed away. It just feels extremely low to me. How would each of us would feel if our first relationship that ended badly wrote a book about us after we'd died? Some may argue Steve's status and worship status means this book has to exist but I disagree. People worshipped Steve's work, not his sexual activities. Attack his business decisions, attack his work ethic. But don't tell me details about his sex life are worthy of public scrutiny.

Yep.. Steve wasn't perfect. He had a volatile relationship. He at times wasn't a nice person to be around. He had a child that he initially refused to admit was his. Guess what. That's life. No one is perfect. Plenty of people experience issues like this in their life. Show me someone who hasn't had a relationship end badly. Show me someone who doesn't have skeletons in a closet. Show me someone who feels 100% happy with how they acted in their late teens/early twenties when they look back in later life.

Yep Steve acted like an arse when it came to the paternity issue. But he later reconnected with his daughter. She even lived with him at one point and he funded her education. It's called life. We **** up. We learn. We repair. We try to find our way. We do our best.

Steve wasn't perfect. He wasn't an angel. I'm quite happy with that. But I don't need to be told gossip details of a relationship from 35 years ago. And she didn't need to write this book.

Excellent post. Steve's personal life is exactly that. Personal. Evaluate his business life. We all have time off the clock that is our own.

To those who must evaluate his personal life consider his marriage. The marriage ended with his death. Same man, different woman.

I have a deep admiration for the way Steve conducted his years dealing with a terminal illness. He was graceful and most productive.

I am certain I could not have done ( in my own field) what Steve did in those difficult years. Could any of us?

That is the measure of the man in my eyes.
 
He wasn't some saint before he died, by all accounts he remained a jerk

So do you think you are a better person? Ignoring the fact that every little fault in his live has been discussed and dissected and got lots of attention, I know plenty of people who have behaved worse, a lot worse. So if we knew every little detail of your life and every mistake you ever made, what would we call you?
 
So do you think you are a better person? Ignoring the fact that every little fault in his live has been discussed and dissected and got lots of attention, I know plenty of people who have behaved worse, a lot worse. So if we knew every little detail of your life and every mistake you ever made, what would we call you?

sorry, most people wouldn't abandon a pregnant girl who was the mother of their child and refuse to pay a dime for taking care of the innocent child when he had plenty of it


Steve Jobs was brilliant and a genius, but he was a piece of ****, AS ACCORDING TO HIS OWN BIOGRAPHY, THAT HE APPROVED THE AUTHOR OF
 
sorry, most people wouldn't abandon a pregnant girl who was the mother of their child and refuse to pay a dime for taking care of the innocent child when he had plenty of it


Steve Jobs was brilliant and a genius, but he was a piece of ****, AS ACCORDING TO HIS OWN BIOGRAPHY, THAT HE APPROVED THE AUTHOR OF

I beg to differ. My career was in women's health. Steve was a choirboy. Believe me.
 
sorry, most people wouldn't abandon a pregnant girl who was the mother of their child and refuse to pay a dime for taking care of the innocent child when he had plenty of it

Get out.

There are numerous of people who do that everyday. EVERYDAY. There are a lot of people who have money, they just don't want to commit to it for whatever reason. Fearing that they're a bad parent, fearing that their parents think they'll make a bad parent, among other things.

Steve wasn't the first to do this, nor was he the last.

Honestly, read the book. Just read the ****ing book before you start arguing about how Steve was a bad person because of that single fact. Because what you don't know is that Steve loved Brennan, and he didn't want to lose her, and had always invited her to numerous occasions in order to not lose the connection. Even when he was married, he, his wife, and her were in eyesight, and by that, I mean taking a walk in the park together eyesight. And you also don't know that they were separate in numerous points between the time Jobs went to college and she was still in high school.

Even afterwards, they were at various different places until they got back together a little while after she went to India after being at a farm with Steve (which was after he went to India).

She was with numerous other guys during this time, and this is why Steve denied it. Because it LITERALLY could have been anyone.
 
I beg to differ. My career was in women's health. Steve was a choirboy. Believe me.

You also deal with the worst of the worst, I'm in the medical field so I've seen it all


The average guy would never do what he did, I've seen near broke guys go hungry paying for their children's needs
 
You also deal with the worst of the worst, I'm in the medical field so I've seen it all

OB-G is not the worst of the worst. OB-G is a specialized area of care just as derm, renal or any other department.

Your weird statement that womens health is the "worst of the worst" speaks volumes about you.
 
sorry, most people wouldn't abandon a pregnant girl who was the mother of their child and refuse to pay a dime for taking care of the innocent child when he had plenty of it.

Plenty refuse to pay. To me, there is no difference between fathering a child when you have no means and no intent to support it, or fathering one when you have no intent to support it and suddenly come into money.

Plenty fathers are worse, like regularly visiting the mother when she gets benefits payments and take the money. I actually know mothers who would have _loved_ to exchange their child's father with someone like Jobs who disappears and leaves them alone, because that is ten times better than what they have. Plenty are in hiding because they are in oermanent fear of some man. I personally know one father who is dead now, who I seriously hope is burning in hell for what he did.

And all that said, he ended up paying for his first daughter's education, reconciled with her, she has been travelling through Europe for many years and doing quite well for herself; I'd say that's better than most women have done. He bought a house for the mother (which she sold to get the cash). He raised three more children who don't have any complaints.

So overall, if you look for bad people, there are plenty worse. And I'm sure some who complain here are among them.
 
Because someone else has commits the same action or worse does not make the action correct. Because I'm not 400# does not mean I'm not fat.
 
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Appreciate these comments, but...

This is a very excellent post. I won't go on and rehash any of it. I'll just say that I scratch my head when I see people say things like, "Maybe this will be more revealing than the Isaacson book, and tell us what the real Steve Jobs was like." I don't know what book you read, but the Isaacson book tells a story of a man who, while genius on some levels was a complete horse's ass starting from about 16 until he got into his mid-30s. He was a flawed human being, like most of us. To me it doesn't diminish his genius. And I accept the fact that he grew as a person. But the Isaacson book did not idolize him.

No Isaacson did not idolize Steve, but neither did he have a extended years long intimate relationship with him or bore his daughter either.

I think after reading both accounts, it Chrisanne's story that reinforced some of the things described in Isaacson's bio. While she offered many details, it was also about her emotional reaction to what was going on throughout their relationship. Her voice needed to be heard.
 
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