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Steve Jobs on Lack of Firewire in MacBooks

robanga said:
A flash or Hard disk based camera with a USB connection. C'mon people the stores and web sites are full of them. Why is this so hard to accept? Technology changes, sometimes for the better, sometimes not for the better.

You would really tell a consumer to buy a tape-based DV camera in December of 2008?
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Hard disk camcorders suck. You have to take a computer with you on holidays.
 
cube said:
Hard disk camcorders suck. You have to take a computer with you on holidays.
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My Canon 1080p HD Camcorder stores about 20 hours of HD content on the internal HD. $800 btw.

Not sure how much video you are taking on your vacations, but if it's more than that I'd recommend putting down the camcorder and just enjoying your holiday.
 
 
evilbert420 said:
My Canon 1080p HD Camcorder stores about 20 hours of HD content on the internal HD. $800 btw.

Not sure how much video you are taking on your vacations, but if it's more than that I'd recommend putting down the camcorder and just enjoying your holiday.
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Don't quit your day job and leave the comedy to professionals
 
fletch33 said:
LOL i still read it and laugh. i spend a decent amount of time on forums and i normally would not have posted something like that but the thread is so long and pointless i thought i would stir the pot. to be honest i am surprised it even got a response HAHAHA.

anyway back to trolling :cool:

ooh i thought i should also mention that i have many firewire devices as you can see by my mac collection in my sig i must have some firewire around the house.
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Well you told them. :rolleyes:
 
Use a USB to Firewire converter. Sorry Firewire lost that battle so bad.
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SACD02 said:
Don't quit your day job and leave the comedy to professionals
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I didn't see an attempt at humor in his post. The point he makes is valid, how many hours of video does one need to take on a holiday? 20 hours is a lot of HD video. BTW who doesn't take a computer on vacation for that matter...:)
 
What do you mean no firewire? Is Steve nuts or what?

Holy crap, I can't believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
evilbert420 said:
My Canon 1080p HD Camcorder stores about 20 hours of HD content on the internal HD. $800 btw.

Not sure how much video you are taking on your vacations, but if it's more than that I'd recommend putting down the camcorder and just enjoying your holiday.
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robanga said:
I didn't see an attempt at humor in his post. The point he makes is valid, how many hours of video does one need to take on a holiday? 20 hours is a lot of HD video. BTW who doesn't take a computer on vacation for that matter...:)
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Thank you for the information. However, as the HD gets full, what do you do? I would guess that at that time you must download and burn to disc or edit in iMovie and burn to disc.

Me, I'm a procrastinator extraordinaire. Tape allows me to remove the tape and store it until I want to or have the time to edit and burn to disc. And I have the tape for archival purposes. I'm not saying this is the best way or the recommended way, but it works for me. And some one is still buying DV camcorders or the manufacturers wouldn't still be making and selling them, or didn't Steve actually look at what is being sold when he made his now infamous statement.:(
 
fletch33 said:
LOL i still read it and laugh. i spend a decent amount of time on forums and i normally would not have posted something like that but the thread is so long and pointless i thought i would stir the pot. to be honest i am surprised it even got a response HAHAHA.

anyway back to trolling :cool:

ooh i thought i should also mention that i have many firewire devices as you can see by my mac collection in my sig i must have some firewire around the house.
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WTF????

Is this guy serious???
 
Snide said:
I hadn't checked this thread since around page 93, and just now caught up.
Good to see that it is now reportedly the most-replied to thread of the year.

is classic, and the responses to post 2581 provided much entertainment.

It's amazing how many trolls (still) keep coming out of the woodwork.
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Hmm, I only get 66 pages. I wonder if you could link to a post instead of a page?

[edit: Nevermind, I found it]

TuffLuffJimmy said:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


seriously??? Seriously???
For the (probably not) last time! The macbook has no, zero, firewire ports.
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Not to mention that the linked product is a plug adaptor, so it still wont handle the problems of the inferior agere chipset now in use (again). I guess people still think they're bringing something new to this thread with their inane ignorant comments about buying adaptors.

fletch33 said:
LOL i still read it and laugh. i spend a decent amount of time on forums and i normally would not have posted something like that but the thread is so long and pointless i thought i would stir the pot. to be honest i am surprised it even got a response HAHAHA.
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I'm sorry, but that simply does not sound right. It was certainly not a trolling post, but just an extraordinaraly stupid and ignorant post. Go back to doing something as useful and really productive as praising Apple, iPhones and iPods. Now, there is something for you, not quite as pointless as you coming into this thread with 2600 posts declaring it "pointless" (yet another way of showing your ignorance on these matters).



anyway back to trolling :cool:
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You're not that good at trolling – well, at least not when you do it on purpose.


ooh i thought i should also mention that i have many firewire devices as you can see by my mac collection in my sig i must have some firewire around the house.
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What? So because you own computers wich includes firewire, you "must" have some firewire devices around the house? Do you also have infrared devices? Or how about PCI-slot devices, expresscard32 devices?

Nah, seriously, there's no excuse ...
 
rickag said:
Thank you for the information. However, as the HD gets full, what do you do? I would guess that at that time you must download and burn to disc or edit in iMovie and burn to disc.

Me, I'm a procrastinator extraordinaire. Tape allows me to remove the tape and store it until I want to or have the time to edit and burn to disc. And I have the tape for archival purposes. I'm not saying this is the best way or the recommended way, but it works for me. And some one is still buying DV camcorders or the manufacturers wouldn't still be making and selling them, or didn't Steve actually look at what is being sold when he made his now infamous statement.:(
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Certainly video tape does allow you to save everything up for mass edit times etc. I can understand that because I use to do the same thing. One thing that I do is simply do a raw import of the full file and edit later, in a sense that replaces your drawer full of tapes. From an archival standpoint, I keep two copies one on an external hard disk and the other burned to a DVD.

There are definitely DV cameras still for sale, but the large majority of them are not. Should Apple have waited for Panasonic or whomever to stop making the final model? I'm not sure that is a good strategy.
 
Peace said:
I have a mini DV camcorder that has USB but I can't seem to get it to transfer to my Macbook without using a windows app. Leopard/iMovie/QT doesn't recgonize it.
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yeah i have the same problem. it works on my pc with windows but not my mac book.
 
Count Blah said:
Oh well. I guess no one cares anymore.

Just yesterday, my father-in-law asked me what kind of video camera he should get so he can make movies on his mini. Knowing that he will have the camera longer that the mini, I have no clue what to tell him to get since Apple is putting firewire out to pasture.

He wants a cheaper one, not the spiff HD ones that Steve thinks everyone has bought in the last 2 years. I'm at a loss.

Thanks Steve.
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Start him off at the Flip Mino, see if it has all the features he needs, including picture quality, then work your way up. For people that want standard television pictures, a small flash camera may just do the job, and be small enough to always have on hand (in pocket) and capture stuff you'd never get if you had to lug a tape camera.

Explain how long the flash card will record for and see if he can work with that.

There's an HD Mino, but once you start talking quality, I'd go for something more substantial.
 
trd1282 said:
seriously people, buy the friggin firewire 400 to 800 adapter and give it a rest already.

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/fw_adapter.html
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How does someone like you, unable to read the topic of the very thread you posted in, expect to be taken seriously?

Try to read this, maybe sound the letters out if necessary. When you string the various words together, you will form a sentence - a device which will convey meaning, like this one:

Steve Jobs on [->]Lack[<-] of Firewire in MacBooks

[key words are highlighted in red]

Just politely, after I have put one end of that FireWire cable into the device, where do I put the other end in the MacBook? (If you like, I can kindly tell you where you can put the other end of it. :p :rolleyes:)
 
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