I think doesn't care and most Apple customers don't care as well. Most people just walk in the store when they need a notebooks and buy it. They don't read reviews and they don't consult the internet.
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Steve Jobs on Lack of Firewire in MacBooks
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I think doesn't care and most Apple customers don't care as well. Most people just walk in the store when they need a notebooks and buy it. They don't read reviews and they don't consult the internet.
I don't know anyone who plans on making an investment like a new laptop without looking into it first. Have you looked at the forums before?
That is such a stupid argument, as if because the MB doesn't have firewire the only thing you can do with your old camera is throw it in the garbage. Last time I checked, the MB didn't have that kind of marketshare to even come close the "filling of landfills" that will ensue with now all of the "completely useless" cameras. Ever hear of craigslist or ebay? Probably a better spot IF you are going to get rid of your camera.
The simple fact is this: most of the cameras support USB. If yours doesn't, then obviously the MB isn't going to work for you. Sorry. Complain to Apple and maybe you'll get them to change it in a future rev, however, I'm not sure that the MB is really the market for video editing. Again, if that's you, then you'll have to come up with a different solution.
Let´s face it, Apple didn´t manage to give the creative power users a small portable this time around. Or rather, they did, but didn´t manage to give the casual user a small portable based on their sexy new unibody design without eating into the Pro segment at much lower margins.
The white MacBook just illustrates that they want to have a sub $1000 consumer laptop, but the new design does not allow for it yet, or it´s there to clear stock. In time, I think we´ll see the unibody MacBook drop to $999 with a higher specced version, with FireWire, at the current MacBook prices. Why FireWire? Well, it seems like a good product differentiator doesn´t it? Even better than clock cycles.
I´m on the fence on this one, but I desperately need a new portable. I need FireWire, and because I cycle to work every day I would also prefer the smallest one. And please, don´t tell me to "just get the white one". I want the new sexy too. Demanding, I know. You become like that being served so well by Apple all these years.
The white MacBook just illustrates that they want to have a sub $1000 consumer laptop, but the new design does not allow for it yet, or it´s there to clear stock. In time, I think we´ll see the unibody MacBook drop to $999 with a higher specced version, with FireWire, at the current MacBook prices. Why FireWire? Well, it seems like a good product differentiator doesn´t it? Even better than clock cycles.
I´m on the fence on this one, but I desperately need a new portable. I need FireWire, and because I cycle to work every day I would also prefer the smallest one. And please, don´t tell me to "just get the white one". I want the new sexy too. Demanding, I know. You become like that being served so well by Apple all these years.
Wow, you took that literally? The point was to make fun of Jobs reasoning, poke fun of their Green obsession, and to be sarcastic.
Also, if Apple will not support FireWire, FireWire will likely die, no one will support it. What will people do with their FireWire devices at that point? When they get that new computer with no firewire, they will ahve to abandon their old devices. Personally, I don't care one ounce if Apple is green or not, but they do.
I bet Apple stick the port back on in a future revision of the Macbook, they did it with the original 'Toilet Seat/Clam Shell' iBook and called them iBook Firewire. I don't use it much myself but come Apple, how much does the socket and chipset cost, was it really going to have a huge impact on price?
Creative video people on the road want gear to be as light as possible.
Taking firewire off the macbook and not including it on the macbook air is a very poor idea.
Besides Apple introduced Firewire and iMovie uses it for capture and camera control. How are amatures going to get DV or HDV footage from their video cameras to the macbook without firewire?
I know SD and SxS cards are the future but until then most people, pros and amatures alike, still use tape. So why have they dropped firewire? It is just silly.
I would have bought a macbook air when it came out just to use it with FCP studio for remote log and capture and basic field editing. I don't want to have to lug a heavy 15" Powerbook over ruff ground when their are lighter solutions.
Apple lost the plot on this one.
Taking firewire off the macbook and not including it on the macbook air is a very poor idea.
Besides Apple introduced Firewire and iMovie uses it for capture and camera control. How are amatures going to get DV or HDV footage from their video cameras to the macbook without firewire?
I know SD and SxS cards are the future but until then most people, pros and amatures alike, still use tape. So why have they dropped firewire? It is just silly.
I would have bought a macbook air when it came out just to use it with FCP studio for remote log and capture and basic field editing. I don't want to have to lug a heavy 15" Powerbook over ruff ground when their are lighter solutions.
Apple lost the plot on this one.
Sign the Petition
Sign the petition to have firewire reinstated.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/MB1394/petition.html
BTW-Was looking at the signature comments and someone who signed the petition named "Mac Rumors" posted negative comments.
"2577. Mac Rumors Firewire was a waste of space. Now I will buy a Macbook. Thank you Apple for moving forward with technology"
Sarcasm? I hope so.
Sign the petition to have firewire reinstated.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/MB1394/petition.html
BTW-Was looking at the signature comments and someone who signed the petition named "Mac Rumors" posted negative comments.
"2577. Mac Rumors Firewire was a waste of space. Now I will buy a Macbook. Thank you Apple for moving forward with technology"
Sarcasm? I hope so.
I wouldn't go that far. Because my Cube has no PCI slot, I bought a FireWire/UltraSCSI converter for my LTO drive. At 20 MB/s, it's slow and the tape cannot run continuously, but it's a last-resort solution.
So, it might be possible to packetize the FireWire protocol through gigabit ethernet, sucking up CPU power, and with my doubts about how it would perform for real-time stuff like capturing DV.
Don't be surprised if such a horrible solution costs around $100, and not the $5 or something an onboard port would cost. After all, that's about the price of my lame SCSI converter.
I could be mistaken, But I have yet to see any evidence these online petitions work.
Again I have never seen anyone close their eyes, spin around in a circle in a car lot and say "I want that one".
You must know some rather wealthy people.
I realise this product is only available now for Windows but maybe it could be developed to be used on a Mac.
http://www.pixela-1.com/captycable/system.htm
http://www.pixela-1.com/captycable/system.htm
If you are not a pro user and you already have a miniDV camcorder that works but requires FW, what are you to do? And this is the case for many consumer users!
Seriously
Seriously. Who doesn't go online and find out all there is to know about the vehicle before even entering the lot.
Obvouisly, ageha is of the former type who just goes into a store and lets the salesperson dictate what they should buy. Typical PC user.
Seriously. Who doesn't go online and find out all there is to know about the vehicle before even entering the lot.
Obvouisly, ageha is of the former type who just goes into a store and lets the salesperson dictate what they should buy. Typical PC user.