If you're making money from your computer, I don't see the problem in spending $400 more for the MBP (vs the similar spec MB) or getting the previous gen MBP with FW on Amazon for $1444 right now. You're also not really paying $400 more since you're going to be writing the equipment off as a business expense.
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Steve Jobs on Lack of Firewire in MacBooks
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If you're making money from your computer, I don't see the problem in spending $400 more for the MBP (vs the similar spec MB) or getting the previous gen MBP with FW on Amazon for $1444 right now. You're also not really paying $400 more since you're going to be writing the equipment off as a business expense.
So why should I believe you, for all I know you could be making stuff up too.No they're not. Most of the PCs over $500 I sell have firewire ports on them. Nice try. Got anything else you want to make up while you're here ?
Something I forgot to mention. There is a cheapish workaround for those who want to keep their older cameras while using a USB only Macbook.
Get a USB Video capture card. They are about $100 retail, so the same cost as the new DVI DL adapter (now that did piss me off!). Rather than sending the video out with FW, you use the component cable (Sony normally ships one with the Camera) which then goes into the capture card.
I know it adds cost, but it is a working solution for those that simply must have one of the new MB's.
Get a USB Video capture card. They are about $100 retail, so the same cost as the new DVI DL adapter (now that did piss me off!). Rather than sending the video out with FW, you use the component cable (Sony normally ships one with the Camera) which then goes into the capture card.
I know it adds cost, but it is a working solution for those that simply must have one of the new MB's.
Glass is clear?
Did you miss the video of Apple's new manufacturing process to make glass clear?
Those suck. Convert horribly and really dont work well. That I can attest to! I could get better quality out of a VHS VCR.
Tape is not dying! It is alive and well. And professionals like me keep their cameras for a longer period of time than their computers. I don't buy yesterday's technology. Disk based is coming but it's still expensive and capacities need to increase for prosumer cameras.
I have used a Sanyo HD1000, Sony TG1, and most recently a Sanyo HD1010. I think they're decent for the home videos I'm doing. If you're using the computer / camcorders to make money, then step up to the MBP, it's not that much more money in comparison to ungodly amount people spend on Cameras, lenses and other equipment.
you can do it wirelessly using migration assistant, but it is a piss-poor alternative to TDM
This could be a solution, but you'd be adding a few additional A/D conversions (digital video to analog output, analog cable re-digitized back to digital through the USB dongle). You'd be adding one level of generation loss through this method, and chances are you're getting some loss of resolution as well.
You also lose a TON of the benefits of the Firewire connection, like frame-accurate deck control, retention of video timestamp information, and -- most importantly -- 100% lossless transfer.
One very nice thing about Firewire is that you can dub video back and forth between two Firewire devices, as many times as you like, and each copy is 100% identical. Granted there's less reason to have to do this nowadays.
Good Grief! Why not drop Ethernet, too? Or the QWERTY layout, or a Magsafe connector? Ot the 3.5 mm audio connectors?
This is one of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time
Yeah, this was the dumbest post.
To answer your dumb question... because all those things are still widely used by many people, even on the low end.
Are you watching your DV movies on an HDTV? Most people are upgrading to HD and old movies look like crap in comparison to even a cheapie HD camcorder.
Clearly the market Apple is positioning the MB for video is towards Youtube style video, casual home users / college kids.
I think replacing the software and other accessories to PC/Windows would cost more than simply stepping up to MBP or iMac desktop computers.
It's the SIZE! GET IT??? The size. I need the smaller form factor and Apple won't make it in a MBP. But, even so, businesses look for ways to cut their expenses as much as consumers do. And especially in down economic times.
Lack of Firewire on the new macbooks
I am a musician and use lot of firewire devices that are only firewire like the new presonus firewire tube that i was deciding to purchase with a new macbook. Now I have to reconsider the way i want to go on. In this moment i am disapointed from this decision (I work with Imac 3.06-logic pro 8 and motu 896 - alesis multimix firewire and for live macbook dualcore 2.00gh) and i was waiting the new macbook to update may system. Is there a technical solution which allows to attach firewire device to USB2 ???.
firewire lover - enzo
I am a musician and use lot of firewire devices that are only firewire like the new presonus firewire tube that i was deciding to purchase with a new macbook. Now I have to reconsider the way i want to go on. In this moment i am disapointed from this decision (I work with Imac 3.06-logic pro 8 and motu 896 - alesis multimix firewire and for live macbook dualcore 2.00gh) and i was waiting the new macbook to update may system. Is there a technical solution which allows to attach firewire device to USB2 ???.
firewire lover - enzo
Does anyone here seriously use the Macbook's line in? I mean, there's already a microphone in the display for you video-calling needs and if you want better quality audio, there's lots of USB microphones for podcasting and bluetooth headsets around. If you want even better audio, you're stuck with firewire equipment.
I bet there are way more people using firewire on their macs than people using the line in. If the next Macbooks had a firewire (400 or 800, I don't care, cables are cheap) instead of the line in, I'll buy it. Seriously.
I bet there are way more people using firewire on their macs than people using the line in. If the next Macbooks had a firewire (400 or 800, I don't care, cables are cheap) instead of the line in, I'll buy it. Seriously.
I'm so glad Jobs seems to expect all of us consumers to buy cameras made in the last two years, and HD ones at that! Except, he seems to have missed out that the more casual users use MacBooks (like myself), HD camera owners are more likely to be using a more capable machine, like the Pro. He lost a sale of a MacBook to me, but thankfully I have my older Firewire MacBook which works just fine.
It's not a viable option because you can't capture from within FCP and you have to transcode the video to make it usable. Way too time consuming.
And how does that help audio professionals, a far larger group of MB users?
So why should I believe you, for all I know you could be making stuff up too.
Newegg currently has about one hundred different C2D laptop models with Firewire available. Prices start at $639, and about $450 for open box models. They only have about fifty C2D laptops that do not have Firewire.
And I'll say again, as in my previous post, what was once so great about Apple was how well the blurred this line between consumer and professional.