not to mention that the high-end jobs for educated people translate instantly into better school and better neighborhood, with the associated increase in property value.
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Steve Jobs Pitches Cupertino on Stunning New Apple Campus
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not to mention that the high-end jobs for educated people translate instantly into better school and better neighborhood, with the associated increase in property value.
Sure, the council-members were fawning all over Jobs. And why not, Apple has been godsend to Cupertino.
And, so what? Can you think of any reason to deny their request? That is the agree to it, it means that Apple has them by the balls? It looks to me that this campus would be a landmark in modern engineering and architecture, so why exactly should the council deny them from building it? Because they like the existing buildings and parking-lots so much?
And what Jobs said was true: if they can't find a way to have their campus in Cupertino, they will move elsewhere where they can. That's only logical. They prefedr to stay in Cupertino, but if they can't fit their business in there, they will move elsewhere. Why exactly is it wrong to state that fact aloud?
Then answer to your burning question.
Michael - I think an estimate has been posted previously. In case you missed it, its anywhere between $770M - 1.5B based on 3.1 million square feet, with a cost of $250/square.
As a suggestion, not a command, I would let the conversation go with KnightWRX. He/she woke up on the wrong side of their french canadian mattress. From my experience (and this is not a generalization, but simply a recap of my experiences), my interactions with french canadians is that they love to argue for no apparent reason. I don't know if it's because they are the red headed stepchild of canada (their two failed referendum attempts), or they speak quebecois (slang) vs Parisian French and they find this insulting somehow. I have yet to arrive at any definitive conclusion that accurately encapsulates their argumentative nature.
None-the-less, take his/her drivel for less than it's actually worth and carry on with your day.
I hope I answered your question instead of berating you.
Michael - I think an estimate has been posted previously. In case you missed it, its anywhere between $770M - 1.5B based on 3.1 million square feet, with a cost of $250/square.
As a suggestion, not a command, I would let the conversation go with KnightWRX. He/she woke up on the wrong side of their french canadian mattress. From my experience (and this is not a generalization, but simply a recap of my experiences), my interactions with french canadians is that they love to argue for no apparent reason. I don't know if it's because they are the red headed stepchild of canada (their two failed referendum attempts), or they speak quebecois (slang) vs Parisian French and they find this insulting somehow. I have yet to arrive at any definitive conclusion that accurately encapsulates their argumentative nature.
None-the-less, take his/her drivel for less than it's actually worth and carry on with your day.
I hope I answered your question instead of berating you.
FYI to everyone who couldn't grasp Steve's comments on the 12K:
Infinite Loop holds around 2600 employees. The entire Cupertino employee total is just over 12,000 currently. That's over dozens of locations that they will consolidate into the new flag ship campus.
Infinite Loop will be the second campus and the other buildings leases will be cancelled. Other buildings they own will either be sold off or consolidated for other projects outside of Infinite Loop and the new flag ship campus.
This isn't difficult to grasp.
With 12k moving to the flag ship, Infinite Loop gives them room for future growth, if they decide to build for 12k or 13k that he mentioned for the flag ship campus.
In short, they would have the capacity total of either 14,600 - 15,600 with both big campuses.
Infinite Loop holds around 2600 employees. The entire Cupertino employee total is just over 12,000 currently. That's over dozens of locations that they will consolidate into the new flag ship campus.
Infinite Loop will be the second campus and the other buildings leases will be cancelled. Other buildings they own will either be sold off or consolidated for other projects outside of Infinite Loop and the new flag ship campus.
This isn't difficult to grasp.
With 12k moving to the flag ship, Infinite Loop gives them room for future growth, if they decide to build for 12k or 13k that he mentioned for the flag ship campus.
In short, they would have the capacity total of either 14,600 - 15,600 with both big campuses.
Your right. It's an architectural nightmare, but it's also an interior designers dream.
It takes challenges like this, to conventional construction that yields progress for the future. I think we will be pleasantly surprised how well this will turn out when it's complete.
we probably should expect similar design plans based on this plan for new office buildings in Redmond and Mountain View in a couple of month.
Did anyone notice, that a second structure of equal size could be placed at the lower end of their property?
Apple knows what they are doing.
Apple knows what they are doing.
Natural gas? Go with Solar even better for the environment at only 4x the cost.
Also Sterling Archer said he wants his turtle neck back.
Solar and ground source heating and A/C costs next to nothing once established.
It was politely showing the council that that free Wi-fi was a dumb request.
They didn't get the joke.
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Too much emphasis on being green, PC and generally kissing the arses of a failed state authority. Not to mention the typical mentality of government... Give everyone free wi-fi? LOL!
Typical Calif. No surprise it's in the crapper. I don't miss it.
Typical Calif. No surprise it's in the crapper. I don't miss it.
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Your tone isn't likely to persuade. I sense you're a skilled architect or designer offended by the comments of the less-informed. But I remember an old adage for public speakers: don't tell us how smart you are; tell us what you know and let US draw that conclusion.
KnightWRX said:
Don't talk about things you don't know about and I will, that's a promise. A Data center is much more architecturally advanced than a "Big Metal Warehouse" and obviously, more so than you can even dream about.
Now, just drop it. You were wrong about the Data center, it's ok, I don't know crap about lumbering. The difference is I don't go make comments about how it's just about "cutting down trees and stuff" all over the net.
Your tone isn't likely to persuade. I sense you're a skilled architect or designer offended by the comments of the less-informed. But I remember an old adage for public speakers: don't tell us how smart you are; tell us what you know and let US draw that conclusion.
The WTF was the petty politician looking the gift horse in the mouth.
Considering the massive tax revenues the city gets from Apple for being there, the council should be grateful - not asking for paltry driblets of more such as "free WiFi". If someone writes you a check for a million dollars, you asking for the pen as a condition of acceptance is bad form.
If Cupertino wants "free WiFi", Apple is paying more than enough in taxes to cover the city implementing that itself.
Remember, this is a company which doesn't even give its shareholders dividends. Attempting to negotiate paltry luxurious non-sequiturs is a fast way to tick off Steve Jobs. His retort to wit "we'd be happy to provide free WiFi if you'll not demand huge tax payments" is a very polite & humorous way to say "WTF?".
Gotta love that "freedom of speech". He and you can comment on whatever they like. If you don't like it, move to a dictatorship and there if you speak up you get shot. I'm glad most countries have embraced the freedom of speech idea.Good. Now don't comment about them anymore and all will be well.
This looks amazing. I really like the goals. it's Apple's design aesthetic applied to a building:
My father is a Landscape Architect and lover of all things Apple. I have to send this link to him...
- Get the parking lot out of sight and put it underground. Added bonus is that cars don't bake in the sun all day.
- It's circular, which is very new age / zen-- everything is equal and without harsh edges.
- It's made out of curved glass.
- It increases the value of public spaces by upping the ratio.
My father is a Landscape Architect and lover of all things Apple. I have to send this link to him...
