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I'll feel better when he's fattened back up again. :)

Will the Macs fatten back up as well?

I suspect next year's banner motto will be "CHUNKIER is HUNKIER: You can never be too beefy." It'll feature everything redesigned with a cube or spherical shape.
 
Very decent of him to post this letter to the Apple community. Now we can watch MacWorld without worrying about Steve. Best wishes for a quick recovery!
 
Get better Jobs.
Me, and many other fanboys, are with you until the very end.

By the way he talks in this letter I expect we will see at least two more years of him.
And even after he steps down, he will probably still be greatly involved.
 
Finally

I'm sure he hated to write that, but it sure is good to hear something from Steve. Being a shareholder, I really appreciate his willingness to speak out on this topic and shut the media up.
Thank you, Steve. Hope you recover soon.

Here's hoping for a new Mac Pro tomorrow.....I doubt it, too.
 
The convolutions of your logic are fantastic, my friend

Not at all. I'm a little older than Jobs, and I can recognize obvious misdirection when I see it... just as many others can.

Jobs ALWAYS chooses his words very carefully, so that they appear to mean more than they do. Where did he explicitly state he wasn't dying? He didn't.

He used the same kind of song and dance when he says stuff like "and boy have we patented it", which the masses swooned over without thinking about it.

He's very good at sleight of word, and I hope he gets a chance to continue doing it. But I admire him much more for spending Christmas with his family instead of preparing for a show.
 
Good news, and a very hard thing for a man to do and we should respect him for that.

Be honest with yourselves - how many of you would put your entire personal life into the public arena so that everyone you know, strangers in the millions, got to know your personal issues in a way virtually nobody ever does? Very few I imagine... Of course, yes he's CEO of a great company, but it's his commitment to Apple that has caused him to take such a difficult public position.

Kudos to him for that..

Get well soon Steve!

With that said, let's get on an enjoy some fruity goodness tomorrow...
 
If this is not affecting his ability to fulfill his duties as CEO then there is no obligation to say anything. Plus, I imagine Jobs to be more of an active CEO than most other CEOs out there. Even at half of what he does he is probably twice the CEO than most.

Wrong. The CEO has an obligation to run the company, but the board has an obligation to shareholders. And since it's painfully obvious that SJ's health has a direct impact on share price (if he died tomorrow, what do you think would happen?) then they have an obligation to keep us informed on signficant medical issues.

I don't care if he's constipated or has a cold, but when the iconic CEO of a major technology company is mysteriously losing weight after cancer, then "it took a year for my doctors to discover this" does NOT cut it.

I will further comment that I find it stretching the limits of credulity to believe that a man of his wealth could not find a doctor in the last year to diagnose what apparently is a "hormone problem." Any univeristy level endocrinologist is well familiar with these types of issues. I'm not buying it unless he specifically was avoiding recommended care and testing, which wouldn't suprise me given how he handled the initial diagnosis. In that case, again we shareholders have a right to know.
 
And Apple's, which is a logical (albeit unfair) reason for probable dishonesty.

And your evidence for this "probable dishonesty" is where, exactly?

The letter pretty much makes the connection between Schiller getting the keynote and Steve making the decision based on his health.

As has already been posted, it doesn't do that at all.

I believe the following statement in Mr. Jobs' letter makes it clear that his health is the reason for him not delivering the keynote:

No it doesn't. A more valid interpretation of that quote is that he finally decided he needed to get this sorted out (or was persuaded to do so), which is, surprisingly, exactly what the sentence says. :rolleyes: Also, the later part of the letter implies that the keynote decision was a separate one to the health issue, with the health speculation as an unfortunate side-effect.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's pretty clear that we're going to hear nothing more on the subject from Apple, so that's topic closed as far as I can see. All that's left is to send Steve our best wishes for a speedy recovery and to wait and see what's unveiled tomorrow....
 
I'm very pleased to hear that he is dong "OK" - sure does make me feel much better. All the best to Steve and his family.

And I say doing OK meaning that the rumors where that he was doing much worse.
 
Understand your position, but now let's extend it to all CEO's:

Gosh, Microsoft's Steve Balmer's looking a bit chubby there ... what's his latest Cholesterol test say, and can we have a detailed rundown of what %-blockages exist in each of the main arteries to the heart? Afterall, his age & weight does mean that coronary health is a very real risk factor and a heart attack will take someone out a lot more suddenly than weight loss, so we can't try to dismiss it as simple paranoia.

Hmmm - not sure Steve Balmers departure would have a negative impact on the Microsoft stock though... ;)
 
Get well Steve! :)


Now lets hope that the press lays off of him. More than likely he announced this as a business reason, both for legality and with the MacWorld keynote tomorrow, there could have been more spotlight on him not presenting then the products that Apple will present.
 
Blessings, Steve! It's a shame you had to spill this to all of us, but I'm glad you did.

Who would rate this as a negative story? I mean c'mon!
 
To be honest, I don't even care if the guy remains as CEO of Apple- I just hope he continues his career in technology and leadership in some capacity in society. He is one of the few true innovators of our time, and a guy like him who prides himself on originality and finding better ways to solve problems is a valuable asset to our country and our world.

I remember when he came back to take control of Apple- and save it from that idiot Gil Amelio from National Semi. It was a good day. Damn I wish I had money to buy stock that day :)
 
You're absolutely right. There's clearly some sort of conspiracy taking place here that's aimed at fooling YOU. Clearly Steve Jobs had no idea who he was messing with when he chose you to deceive though - you're smarter than him, and you've cracked the code.

But seriously. Shut up. He said it's a hormonal problem that took a year to discover. So that's what it is. Maybe he was trying to lose weight at the time, lost a bit much and attributed it to whatever method he was employing but that doesn't even matter because it's his own, personal, private business. The fact that he even had to write a letter to shut up the media and fanboys is pathetic. The man is entitled to his privacy. He said himself that when he is unable to perform his duties, he'll notify the board, so go find something else to worry and complain about. Idiot.



Wrong. The CEO has an obligation to run the company, but the board has an obligation to shareholders. And since it's painfully obvious that SJ's health has a direct impact on share price (if he died tomorrow, what do you think would happen?) then they have an obligation to keep us informed on signficant medical issues.

I don't care if he's constipated or has a cold, but when the iconic CEO of a major technology company is mysteriously losing weight after cancer, then "it took a year for my doctors to discover this" does NOT cut it.

I will further comment that I find it stretching the limits of credulity to believe that a man of his wealth could not find a doctor in the last year to diagnose what apparently is a "hormone problem." Any univeristy level endocrinologist is well familiar with these types of issues. I'm not buying it unless he specifically was avoiding recommended care and testing, which wouldn't suprise me given how he handled the initial diagnosis. In that case, again we shareholders have a right to know.
 
all the braying....

about Apple's need to reveal Steve's health is beside the point, and yes I have owned Apple stock.

But really, I felt compelled to say I wish him the best and salute how he came in and turned Apple around. Even if he doesn't do things always in the best and nicest way, he saved the Apple OS and now it rules along with iTunes, the iPhone, and another evolution of the great powerbook, we could go on and on.

Just hoping for the best for him and his family in 09.

And someone recommended this stuff and I'm going to be trying it:

http://www.supremefulvic.com/shop/

Can't hurt Steve! :cool:
 
Wrong. The CEO has an obligation to run the company, but the board has an obligation to shareholders. And since it's painfully obvious that SJ's health has a direct impact on share price (if he died tomorrow, what do you think would happen?) then they have an obligation to keep us informed on signficant medical issues.

Obviously, Jobs known health issues impact share price. But if the board feels that what they see in the running of the company is not impacted by known or rumored health conditions how are they not meeting shareholder obligations?

I don't care if he's constipated or has a cold, but when the iconic CEO of a major technology company is mysteriously losing weight after cancer, then "it took a year for my doctors to discover this" does NOT cut it.

I will further comment that I find it stretching the limits of credulity to believe that a man of his wealth could not find a doctor in the last year to diagnose what apparently is a "hormone problem." Any univeristy level endocrinologist is well familiar with these types of issues. I'm not buying it unless he specifically was avoiding recommended care and testing, which wouldn't suprise me given how he handled the initial diagnosis. In that case, again we shareholders have a right to know.

And things might not cut it for you but that still does not give you the right or legally obligate Jobs to have to give the public/you any further information.

And from my experience, even with the best doctors in the world some things can be elusive and can often take months or even years to accurately diagnose. And just because he said "hormone problem" doesn't mean he is giving us all the dirty details. And you know what? He isn't required to do so!
 
Oh, really?

As is my usual wont to cut through the BS, here is my take on the "news":

If Mr. Jobs actually had a "mysterious" unnamed never-before-seen or heard of hormone imbalance that causes severe weightloss, you can bet your life it would have been patented, bottled, highly publicized, already on the market, and the man would have ended up making more money in a year than he made at his entire tenure with Apple. 85% of the planet needs to lose weight; Apple could only dream of attaining a tenth of that potential market.

What a bunch of unmitigated highly corporate crap. This is the kind of BS you expect of a Michael Jackson, not of a Steve Jobs.

It is a shame that obfuscation of the ravages of pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants is necessary for "business as usual," and couldn't be used to perhaps, just maybe, convince one idiot in the world to quit friggin' smoking.

If someone had done the same for Jobs a decade or so ago, he AND Apple wouldn't be in this condition in the first place.

Unless, of course, you think the CIA injected him with a bioweapon because he resisted putting backdoor access into Mac OS. But then you'd have to ask yourself why would the CIA not market and highly profit from a drug that would earn them more legitimately than all the illegal drug running they've done since their very inception.

No, the only conspiracy here is to defraud Apple stockholders, cover Apple's corporate asses, and in doing so avoid saving lives.

Apple, The Myth: It's OVER.

:apple:
 
As is my usual wont to cut through the BS, here is my take on the "news":

If Mr. Jobs actually had a "mysterious" unnamed never-before-seen or heard of hormone imbalance that causes severe weightloss, you can bet your life it would have been patented, bottled, highly publicized, already on the market, and the man would have ended up making more money in a year than he made at his entire tenure with Apple. 85% of the planet needs to lose weight; Apple could only dream of attaining a tenth of that potential market.

What a bunch of unmitigated highly corporate crap. This is the kind of BS you expect of a Michael Jackson, not of a Steve Jobs.

It is a shame that obfuscation of the ravages of pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants is necessary for "business as usual," and couldn't be used to perhaps, just maybe, convince one idiot in the world to quit friggin' smoking.

If someone had done the same for Jobs a decade or so ago, he AND Apple wouldn't be in this condition in the first place.

Unless, of course, you think the CIA injected him with a bioweapon because he resisted putting backdoor access into Mac OS. But then you'd have to ask yourself why would the CIA not market and highly profit from a drug that would earn them more legitimately than all the illegal drug running they've done since their very inception.

No, the only conspiracy here is to defraud Apple stockholders, cover Apple's corporate asses, and in doing so avoid saving lives.

Apple, The Myth: It's OVER.

:apple:

xbjllb YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
And banned from this forum :mad::mad::mad:
 
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