I hate to break it to you, but we are all dying.
I don't think Steve Jobs has ever laid claim to immortality.But feel free to continue your deathwatch.
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Steve Jobs Recovering From Hormone Imbalance, To Remain CEO
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I hate to break it to you, but we are all dying.
I don't think Steve Jobs has ever laid claim to immortality.But feel free to continue your deathwatch.
As is my usual wont to cut through the BS, here is my take on the "news":
If Mr. Jobs actually had a "mysterious" unnamed never-before-seen or heard of hormone imbalance that causes severe weightloss, you can bet your life it would have been patented, bottled, highly publicized, already on the market, and the man would have ended up making more money in a year than he made at his entire tenure with Apple. 85% of the planet needs to lose weight; Apple could only dream of attaining a tenth of that potential market.
What a bunch of unmitigated highly corporate crap. This is the kind of BS you expect of a Michael Jackson, not of a Steve Jobs.
It is a shame that obfuscation of the ravages of pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants is necessary for "business as usual," and couldn't be used to perhaps, just maybe, convince one idiot in the world to quit friggin' smoking.
If someone had done the same for Jobs a decade or so ago, he AND Apple wouldn't be in this condition in the first place.
Unless, of course, you think the CIA injected him with a bioweapon because he resisted putting backdoor access into Mac OS. But then you'd have to ask yourself why would the CIA not market and highly profit from a drug that would earn them more legitimately than all the illegal drug running they've done since their very inception.
No, the only conspiracy here is to defraud Apple stockholders, cover Apple's corporate asses, and in doing so avoid saving lives.
Apple, The Myth: It's OVER.
"pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants"
xbjllb YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!
And banned from this forum
Oh yes. God FORBID that some truth ever cuts through the BS and lives are saved in the process.
DON'T FILL YOUR LIVES WITH SMOKE THE WAY JOBS DID.
I'm out.
As is my usual wont to cut through the BS, here is my take on the "news":
If Mr. Jobs actually had a "mysterious" unnamed never-before-seen or heard of hormone imbalance that causes severe weightloss, you can bet your life it would have been patented, bottled, highly publicized, already on the market, and the man would have ended up making more money in a year than he made at his entire tenure with Apple. 85% of the planet needs to lose weight; Apple could only dream of attaining a tenth of that potential market.
What a bunch of unmitigated highly corporate crap. This is the kind of BS you expect of a Michael Jackson, not of a Steve Jobs.
It is a shame that obfuscation of the ravages of pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants is necessary for "business as usual," and couldn't be used to perhaps, just maybe, convince one idiot in the world to quit friggin' smoking.
If someone had done the same for Jobs a decade or so ago, he AND Apple wouldn't be in this condition in the first place.
Unless, of course, you think the CIA injected him with a bioweapon because he resisted putting backdoor access into Mac OS. But then you'd have to ask yourself why would the CIA not market and highly profit from a drug that would earn them more legitimately than all the illegal drug running they've done since their very inception.
No, the only conspiracy here is to defraud Apple stockholders, cover Apple's corporate asses, and in doing so avoid saving lives.
Apple, The Myth: It's OVER.
So you believe Steve is lying.
I'm pretty sure this is doing more than just making him loose weight.
And even if this was somehow an amazing discovery, he would wait until he's all better if he wanted to put it on the market.
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Still Didn't Say Why He isn't keynoting
If the explanation is so innocent, why isn't he keynoting? Maybe it's implicit that his health isn't the best and that having Schiller do the keynote is a continuation of him giving up more and more control as time goes on, not because of acute illness but because of a general knowledge that he seems to have a propensity toward illness at this stage of his life.
If the explanation is so innocent, why isn't he keynoting? Maybe it's implicit that his health isn't the best and that having Schiller do the keynote is a continuation of him giving up more and more control as time goes on, not because of acute illness but because of a general knowledge that he seems to have a propensity toward illness at this stage of his life.
what do you mean by that?
i didn't write the title like that...the moderators changed my original title.
He explained why.
He wants to spend the holdiays with his family and put his health first instead of preparing for a keynote.
ok, i have enjoyed speculating over what new thing apple is going to come out with.
but this is a person we're talking about here. stock share, corporate future... none of that is important when compared with a human life.
if you're trying to find some sort of hidden meaning behind this letter because you are afraid of losing money or because you want to keep getting your fancy gadgets - i'm sorry, but that is deplorable.
i think steve jobs is a highly private person, and doesn't like his personal issues to be flaunted around the media - or the cesspool of rumor mills. he obviously only wrote what he felt he had to, and to me it's a sad reflection on our society that he felt he had to.
please be considerate before you start speculating about someone's life and health - keep your own dignity and let him keep his.
but this is a person we're talking about here. stock share, corporate future... none of that is important when compared with a human life.
if you're trying to find some sort of hidden meaning behind this letter because you are afraid of losing money or because you want to keep getting your fancy gadgets - i'm sorry, but that is deplorable.
i think steve jobs is a highly private person, and doesn't like his personal issues to be flaunted around the media - or the cesspool of rumor mills. he obviously only wrote what he felt he had to, and to me it's a sad reflection on our society that he felt he had to.
please be considerate before you start speculating about someone's life and health - keep your own dignity and let him keep his.
A CEO's health is no concern to the share holders or board of directors at all, to force him to reveal his state of health would have been gross discrimination so no its not illegal at all.
I hate to break it to you, but we are all dying.
I never claimed he was dying right now. What I pointed out is, that he didn't say he wasn't.
Quite a different thing.
As I wrote above, I've been in a very similar cancer position, including mysterious weight loss.
You don't "mysteriously lose weight" after pancreatic cancer. It's very common for treatment to cause significant weight loss or at the very least a loss of appetite (as you might expect when it's painful to digest). What apparently happened is this ordinary weight loss started taking an inordinate amount of time to stop. That's when (a few weeks ago, perhaps?) they started looking for other potential causes. And found his hormones were off.
There's nothing wrong with how he or Apple handled this situation. As he indicated in the letter, if anything he's said more than he had to.
Jobs does not strike me as the nostalgic type. Once Apple decided they would start pulling out of MacWorld he very likely saw it a waste of his time to go just for "one last stand", especially when he could instead spend the time with his family. Besides cost, it's thought that Apple's pulled out to have more control over when they "can" announce new products. Part of this is that Jobs gets to take vacations when he wants, and I'm sure in his mind MacWorld is already a thing of the past. Why go out of your way to attend something your company has already said they don't care to be a part of?
whoa....
That is about the most awful ramble I've read in a while. And being that I try to avoid the noxious fumes from the likes of Code Pink (who happen to be protesting Obama's hotel right now in sympathy for Osama bin Laden's cousins at Hamas) that's saying something.
You are really out of line saying Steve's declared hormonal issue could be packaged as some sort of weight loss pill. That's some toxic trash you are spewing.
Now if Steve is choosing not to reveal the full truth on his health, well that's still doesn't rise to this level of venom, Apple stockholder or not.
The guy takes what a $1 a year in salary and has written a case study on turning a company around and taking it beyond what anyone could have hoped.
He's met his obligation to the stockholders and then some.
That is about the most awful ramble I've read in a while. And being that I try to avoid the noxious fumes from the likes of Code Pink (who happen to be protesting Obama's hotel right now in sympathy for Osama bin Laden's cousins at Hamas) that's saying something.
You are really out of line saying Steve's declared hormonal issue could be packaged as some sort of weight loss pill. That's some toxic trash you are spewing.
Now if Steve is choosing not to reveal the full truth on his health, well that's still doesn't rise to this level of venom, Apple stockholder or not.
The guy takes what a $1 a year in salary and has written a case study on turning a company around and taking it beyond what anyone could have hoped.
He's met his obligation to the stockholders and then some.
As is my usual wont to cut through the BS, here is my take on the "news":
If Mr. Jobs actually had a "mysterious" unnamed never-before-seen or heard of hormone imbalance that causes severe weightloss, you can bet your life it would have been patented, bottled, highly publicized, already on the market, and the man would have ended up making more money in a year than he made at his entire tenure with Apple. 85% of the planet needs to lose weight; Apple could only dream of attaining a tenth of that potential market.
What a bunch of unmitigated highly corporate crap. This is the kind of BS you expect of a Michael Jackson, not of a Steve Jobs.
It is a shame that obfuscation of the ravages of pancreatic cancer due to years of chainsmoking cigarettes and possibly other plants is necessary for "business as usual," and couldn't be used to perhaps, just maybe, convince one idiot in the world to quit friggin' smoking.
If someone had done the same for Jobs a decade or so ago, he AND Apple wouldn't be in this condition in the first place.
Unless, of course, you think the CIA injected him with a bioweapon because he resisted putting backdoor access into Mac OS. But then you'd have to ask yourself why would the CIA not market and highly profit from a drug that would earn them more legitimately than all the illegal drug running they've done since their very inception.
No, the only conspiracy here is to defraud Apple stockholders, cover Apple's corporate asses, and in doing so avoid saving lives.
Apple, The Myth: It's OVER.
This discussion will not end any time soon.
Dissect, decipher, re-analyze, decode, re-interpret, read between the lines, do whatever hell with Steve's letter. Can someone figure out if Steve used a yet-to-be-released-mac to write that mail?
Here's my cut of the letter:
Let the show begin!
PS: Woz recently happened to steal some of Steve's hormones. Remember... you read it here first.
Dissect, decipher, re-analyze, decode, re-interpret, read between the lines, do whatever hell with Steve's letter. Can someone figure out if Steve used a yet-to-be-released-mac to write that mail?
Here's my cut of the letter:
Let the show begin!
PS: Woz recently happened to steal some of Steve's hormones. Remember... you read it here first.
Well said.
And considering Steve isn't much of a tell-it-all person anyway, we should all be glad he shed some light on a matter ppl loved to rip to pieces in the recent past. But hey guess what...the grinder is still on and ppl still bitching big big time.
I hate to be the guy pointing out how the shadows don't align, but... Didn't the rest of you notice something odd at the very end of the letter? You got it: there's no "PS" describing the Apple hardware he used to write and send the message.
I call fake.
I call fake.
uh....
Maybe because he needs to put his health first right now.
Like what was INDICATED in the statement today.
Maybe because he needs to put his health first right now.
Like what was INDICATED in the statement today.
He also didn't say he's not secretly Zarnox the Conquering Shoe Cobbler from the planet Bloopaloop.
What's the point of you making a statement like that? Either it's meaningless or you're attempting to imply that he is dying.
To whomever it was that posted a speculation that Steve's condition was Celiac Sprue.
This sounds like what Steve was referring to. But.
Had Steve's diagnosis been something like this why wouldn't he say that ? If Steve wants to get personal with his "letter to the community" why didn't he just say "the doctors said I had Celiac Sprue" ? Or for that matter any other specific diagnosis. I mean come on. If Steve writes a personal letter to the Mac community you would think he would mention the condition. The only thing that would keep him from mentioning the specific condition would be the doctors are not sure if that is indeed the diagnosis.
I've been seeing doctors for quit a while and they know exactly what my conditions are.
There's more to this than meets the eye.
This sounds like what Steve was referring to. But.
Had Steve's diagnosis been something like this why wouldn't he say that ? If Steve wants to get personal with his "letter to the community" why didn't he just say "the doctors said I had Celiac Sprue" ? Or for that matter any other specific diagnosis. I mean come on. If Steve writes a personal letter to the Mac community you would think he would mention the condition. The only thing that would keep him from mentioning the specific condition would be the doctors are not sure if that is indeed the diagnosis.
I've been seeing doctors for quit a while and they know exactly what my conditions are.
There's more to this than meets the eye.
Omgg Wtf
I always find the New Year a major disappointment. We pick up the squabling and the fighting, the nasty verbal attacking, the genuine mistrust of our fellow human and the mean spirit that most of human kind displays. 5 days in and so far a lot of the posts on this forum sum up almost all of what I've said.
Obama said a change is coming, not fast enough dude, nor would you think it.
Mr Jobs, get well real soon. The Tech World would not be the same without you.
I always find the New Year a major disappointment. We pick up the squabling and the fighting, the nasty verbal attacking, the genuine mistrust of our fellow human and the mean spirit that most of human kind displays. 5 days in and so far a lot of the posts on this forum sum up almost all of what I've said.
Obama said a change is coming, not fast enough dude, nor would you think it.
Mr Jobs, get well real soon. The Tech World would not be the same without you.
LOL i like the way everyones trying to find a Da Vinci code in Steve's letter.
oh oh ive got an idea, maybe its an enigma code =]
oh oh ive got an idea, maybe its an enigma code =]
Come on guys...
Steve was under no obligation to discuss his health issues with anyone in the world, outside of his immediate family and the board at Apple.
As for the 'Apple Community' and other interested / invasive parties (Gizmodo et al) Steve Jobs has taken a courageous and maverick move today, in keeping with his business style.
So, if you read and re-read his statement you must understand that he's been frank and honest, without spelling out his own personal diagnosis. If he had said anymore in the statement he would have gone to far, both personally and professionally. The thirst to dig around and speculate, probably incorrectly about his situation would only be amplified. Simply, he can't win.
Therefore, we should all take a long, hard look at ourselves and ask 'what has this got to do with us'... We are speculating, commenting and analyzing another human beings life. Just think about that for a second. Steve Job's is a businessman - that's where it ends.
For the love of god leave him alone, move along, there is nothing to see or discuss here. Lets finally look forward to Apples future and leave a man, an individual and his family in peace!!!
Steve was under no obligation to discuss his health issues with anyone in the world, outside of his immediate family and the board at Apple.
As for the 'Apple Community' and other interested / invasive parties (Gizmodo et al) Steve Jobs has taken a courageous and maverick move today, in keeping with his business style.
So, if you read and re-read his statement you must understand that he's been frank and honest, without spelling out his own personal diagnosis. If he had said anymore in the statement he would have gone to far, both personally and professionally. The thirst to dig around and speculate, probably incorrectly about his situation would only be amplified. Simply, he can't win.
Therefore, we should all take a long, hard look at ourselves and ask 'what has this got to do with us'... We are speculating, commenting and analyzing another human beings life. Just think about that for a second. Steve Job's is a businessman - that's where it ends.
For the love of god leave him alone, move along, there is nothing to see or discuss here. Lets finally look forward to Apples future and leave a man, an individual and his family in peace!!!