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Hahaha great quote, mind if I use it as a sig?

A happy tomorrow to you too - and especially to the mods :eek: they must be so busy!

I'd be honored to be quoted, no one needs my permission.

and to our beloved mods, good luck tomorrow, I believe the angry rants will probably start around 9:01 PST
 
More than likely he lied. A hormone imbalance?

I'm not a M.D. but isn't Insulin a Hormone?
Didn't SJ have most of his pancreas removed?
Doesn't the pancreas make insulin?
Doesn't lack of insulin mean he can't process sugars and would lose weight?
Hmmm, your post sounds like FUD.
 
I find it odd that people feel the CEO of a very big, publicly traded company doesn't have to be honest about the state of his health. Health of a leader of any type of organization is of prime concern to those who follow or invest. So, stop acting like this is only a private matter. It's not, because he is Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple. If he doesn't want details of his health disclosed publicly, he should resign as the CEO of a public company.

As long as the CEO's heath doesn't affect the operation of the company or his membership of the board (much less his ability to function as a CEO), ones health is nobody's business and is still protected by patient doctor privilege. My Dad is a CFO and the only time people are concerned about his health are if he needs to take the day off - but that has nothing to do with being a CFO, but rather an executive. If the board of directors had to keep informing the public about every little cough that they have nothing would ever get done. Believe me when I say that as long as he can perform his job, the Board will not care. If Jobs or the board was withholding anything or (as their recent statements would indicate) lied publicly, it will be used against them in a lawsuit or a federal investigation. Public information of this matter is not something they take lightly since it can bite them in the ass.

Nobody has sued Apple or Jobs in this matter, if there was any real concern we would have seen it by now. Discussion on rumor message boards is not something people are going to fret over. Now Gizmodo proclaiming the immanent death of their CEO is going to merit a mention. The public letter is the next best thing to Jobs making an appearance which was not scheduled to happen anyway.
 
I'm not a M.D. but isn't Insulin a Hormone?
Didn't SJ have most of his pancreas removed?
Doesn't the pancreas make insulin.
Doesn't lack of insulin mean he can't process sugars and would lose weight?
Hmmm, your post sounds like FUD.

I think your spot on there.
People who have shares in Apple and who are ranting about Steve being ill and lying to them are being naive.
You invest shares in Apple, not Steve, Apple, Steve Jobs isnt a company, Apple is, Apple is listed on the stock market, not Steve, Apple can sack Steve whenever they want, and you would still have your shares. Steve is just CEO, and thats one thing we all know.
 
Steve, if you're reading this, hope you're having a speedy recovery. And don't take the, at times, schadenfreude paparazzi-ish speculation too seriously.

Glad it wasn't too serious.
 
I'm not a M.D. but isn't Insulin a Hormone?
Didn't SJ have most of his pancreas removed? Doesn't the pancreas make insulin.
Doesn't lack of insulin mean he can't process sugars and would lose weight?

Doesn't seem likely to be what he meant.

He's not the first person with pancreatic cancer. Any resulting insulin lack (depending on how much of the pancreas they removed) would have already been compensated for... and certainly wouldn't be a year long mystery that required "sophisticated blood tests."
 
As long as the CEO's heath doesn't affect the operation of the company or his membership of the board (much less his ability to function as a CEO), ones health is nobody's business and is still protected by patient doctor privilege.

I agree. In this case, Steve Job's health does directly affect Apple Inc. and operation of the company. That's why the stock price swings so much just hearing rumors of Steve's health.

I'm not saying the Board of Directors for every company must report every sniffle and cough to shareholders. That's ridiculous. But, if the CEO of Apple has had a long battle with cancer and has alarmed people with his dramatic weight loss over the past year, I'd say that goes way beyond a simple medical condition, and is of utmost concern to anyone invested in or working for Apple.

The U.S. President's health is published in newspapers around the world after his physical every year. It gives Americans confidence that their country is being run by someone of sound mind and body, which is important (not sure what happened in the last 8 years, tho). Same for the CEO of a large public company.
 
I find it odd that people feel the CEO of a very big, publicly traded company doesn't have to be honest about the state of his health. Health of a leader of any type of organization is of prime concern to those who follow or invest. So, stop acting like this is only a private matter.

I don't see it as dishonest. As people age they get various types of medical conditions, very few of which are terminal, or that can't be controlled by the right combination of medication, diet, etc. Unless someone's health status really does affect his or her job performance it should simply be a personal matter.
 
He has looked quite sick lately
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Honestly, it's sad that it had to come to this point. Jobs' health is a private matter until it affects the stockholders. The funny thing is, it was not affecting stockholders until people made it that way. Every time one of these stupid rumors goes around, Apple stock drops, and that is simply not a good thing for the market, the economy, Apple, or Apple's customers. So it is essentially rumor spreaders who pushed Jobs to release such private information.

I love how he ends the note:
"So now I've said more than I wanted to say, and all that I am going to say, about this.

Steve"


He basically had to tell what was going on so that stock didn't continue to take a hit from rumors. Instead he releases a statement not 24 hours before the biggest day of Apple's year so that the company takes a small hit today and skyrockets for the rest of the week. It's good business, but it's sad that something that shouldn't have mattered came down to an issue of money and frustration.

My two cents, anyway.
 
Announcing Apple's new thinnest product ever: iSteve! (as he jumps out of a giant MacBook manilla mailing envelope):

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He is like a father to me.

Get well soon Mr. Steve Jobs, you are my inspiration. He started the company in his garage and its now a multibillion dollar company. Every new product Apple unveils, the competition tries to imitate it. I wish he stays with apple forever.!


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Why do you say "oh, dear"? The man is genius!

The cold hard reality is that Steve is not your father. In fact he does not know you exist nor would he care if he happened to bump into you in the street. He is a corporate CEO whose passion lies in the company that he founded near 30 years ago, not on you. I hate to burst your bubble, but thats the reality of it. Steve Jobs is a businessman, not a saint. I say this as a Mac enthusiast. I like the products, but I also really like my car and I don't treat the CEO of Saturn with any more glorification than I do with Steve Jobs. When you have a parent that is a CFO and you work for and know CEO's and executives (and when they know you by name) the hero worship becomes less significant when you realize that they got to where they are because they worked hard. Not because people saw them as their father.
 
The cold hard reality is that Steve is not your father. In fact he does not know you exist nor would he care if he happened to bump into you in the street. He is a corporate CEO whose passion lies in the company that he founded near 30 years ago, not on you. I hate to burst your bubble, but thats the reality of it. Steve Jobs is a businessman, not a saint. I say this as a Mac enthusiast. I like the products, but I also really like my car and I don't treat the CEO of Saturn with any more glorification than I do with Steve Jobs. When you have a parent that is a CFO and you work for and know CEO's and executives (and when they know you by name) the hero worship becomes less significant when you realize that they got to where they are because they worked hard. Not because people saw them as their father.
I totally agree with your statement. I dont consider him my father, he's just kinda of an inspiration and nothing more.
 
He's very good at sleight of word, and I hope he gets a chance to continue doing it. But I admire him much more for spending Christmas with his family instead of preparing for a show.

Nail...Head.
The real reason Apple are no longer going to Macworld. So they can take well earn holidays with family.
 
I totally agree with your statement. I dont consider him my father, he's just kinda of an inspiration and nothing more.

Then why did you say this:
Mr. Steve Jobs, you are like a father to me

IMO, using words such as "You are like a father to me" shows a disconnect to reality beyond hero worship. Which is not even appropriate. Its one thing to be inspired by a successful business man - as an IT person, I am inspired by any geek that successful and mainstream - its another to personalize him to the point that he is like a family member.

I feel bad that he is sick like I do about any public figure that announces such a thing.
 
Then why did you say this:


IMO, using words such as "You are like a father to me" shows a disconnect to reality beyond hero worship. Which is not even appropriate. Its one thing to be inspired by a successful business man - as an IT person, I am inspired by any geek that successful and mainstream - its another to personalize him to the point that he is like a family member.

I feel bad that he is sick like I do about any public figure that announces such a thing.
OR he used a turn of phrase.
 
Doesn't seem likely to be what he meant.

He's not the first person with pancreatic cancer. Any resulting insulin lack (depending on how much of the pancreas they removed) would have already been compensated for... and certainly wouldn't be a year long mystery that required "sophisticated blood tests."
Point taken, but
Isn't SJ a veggie/fruitarian type?
If so he could have been eating his way into misery.
He would need to eat lot's of protein and very few carbs
with high glycemic index numbers. (Atkins / Ketonic diet)
And meat and eggs is one of the best sources of this type of nutrition. Anathema to a veggie. Normal insulin levels would not do well against an onslaught of fruit juice, etc. He may have had to adjust them. As well as a possible issue with T cell counts that could exacerbate the issue.
 
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