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That's pretty low, hanging out to take pics like that.

At the least, it looks like Jobs' house needs better fences and/or a winding driveway, if he wishes to keep his privacy.

Respect shouldn't need big fences or winding driveways. It should be given freely to all as you would expect it be given to you.
 
Steve Jobs and DNA

Before we forget entirely about Steve Jobs, let's please be reminded of some of the things he brought us, starting with privacy, which is clearly a constutionalist and "Tea bagger" (derogatory term used by D) thing despite his liberal leanings. In fact one might even be so bold as to call Steve Jobs a "little L" liberal. Accurately.

http://video.allthingsd.com/video/s...-privacy/0C882D81-DD73-4013-ADDF-4A7D35FA98E3

Rocketman
 
Before we forget entirely about Steve Jobs, let's please be reminded of some of the things he brought us, starting with privacy, which is clearly a constutionalist and "Tea bagger" (derogatory term used by D) thing despite his liberal leanings. In fact one might even be so bold as to call Steve Jobs a "little L" liberal. Accurately.

http://video.allthingsd.com/video/s...-privacy/0C882D81-DD73-4013-ADDF-4A7D35FA98E3

Rocketman

Oh please Steve Jobs has been well known for his Marxist views. It is ironic that such a Marxist helped Apple accrue $80 billion in cash. In a sense, the ultimate capitalist in practice.
 
And democratic / constitutional views.

$90B

His views are "American".

On the way to $200B.

Mere Rocketman

Where did you get $90B from? They announced $76 billion at the end of July. By now they might be up to $81B going by the previous quarter performance. $200B is a definite possibility within 4 years.
 

Apple Inc. pays their PR flacks more than any other company in existence, and HAS more PR flacks than any other company in existence. And more boilerrooms "handling" "public" "opinion" on the web in perpetuity than even Obama Inc. during election years.

And as far as conservatives arguing with progressives over the man's politics, it's blatantly obvious that any progressive leanings the man had at the beginning of his life were completely obliterated by the fascist dictator the man became at the end, attempting to destroy competition, former allies, and anyone and everyone who didn't share his "vision" for an arguable "future" far, far, far away, and far, far, far from a utopia for anyone BUT Apple, Inc. and certainly not for Apple's established base of highend pro users.

Chasing success is one thing; monopoly, another. Empire? Another animal altogether.

TRUE Christian churches never stockpile weapons, and benign corporations don't stockpile cash. Certainly not more than governments. Even well-earned paranoia, unless cured by removing its cause, only begets suicide. Just as churches shouldn't be arming themselves in the first place, Apple shouldn't be trying to force its way on the world, and even its own base. Force is force is force. Give people options and let THEM decide.

And quit spending millions to TELL them what they think. I don't care IF everyone else IS doing it, when Apple does it BETTER they are going down a very dark path. Without outside interference or a miracle from within, capitalism is the larval stage of fascism. All one has to do is look at Apple Inc. under Steve Jobs.

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Uh, you know that SFPD has walked back the original statement and may go even further over the holiday weekend during the slow news cycle?

Uh, no, but I'm not surprised. Wonder how much THAT cost Apple.

Probably the Sudetenland.

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If this has not been all ready linked:

An exellent article in Newsweek: American Genius, Steve Jobs, How He Drove Apple to Victory, How He Changed Our World

If ever there was a showman who knew how to end on a high note—leaving his awed and adoring audience begging for more—it is the man in the trademark black mock turtleneck. Even as an ailing Steve Jobs announced to the world last week that “unfortunately, that day has come” for him to step down as chief executive officer of Apple, his timing was—yet again—impeccable. In the 14 years since Jobs regained control of his company in the summer of 1997 after a long, bitter exile, Apple shares have increased a stunning 110-fold. Having surpassed rival Microsoft a year ago, Apple’s $350 billion in market capitalization places it behind only ExxonMobil as the most valuable company in the world. Apple has made money so quickly and so prodigiously that it holds an outrageous $76 billion in cash and investments—an awesome sum thought to be parked in an obscure subsidiary, Braeburn Capital, located across the California border in Reno because the state of Nevada doesn’t have corporate or capital-gains taxes.

Take that Microsoft! ;)
 
Sure, but tell that to the paparazzi who might make thousands off each picture.

Perhaps we need laws against selling photos taken of anyone on their own property.

And they'll tell if the media stops buying we'll stop taking.
The media will tell you that if sales stop spiking if those images on the cover we'll stop using them.

Which brings us back to individual making the choice.
 
If this has not been all ready linked:

An exellent article in Newsweek: American Genius, Steve Jobs, How He Drove Apple to Victory, How He Changed Our World


If ever there was a showman who knew how to end on a high note—leaving his awed and adoring audience begging for more—it is the man in the trademark black mock turtleneck. Even as an ailing Steve Jobs announced to the world last week that “unfortunately, that day has come” for him to step down as chief executive officer of Apple, his timing was—yet again—impeccable.

In the 14 years since Jobs regained control of his company in the summer of 1997 after a long, bitter exile, Apple shares have increased a stunning 110-fold. Having surpassed rival Microsoft a year ago, Apple’s $350 billion in market capitalization places it behind only ExxonMobil as the most valuable company in the world.

Apple has made money so quickly and so prodigiously that it holds an outrageous $76 billion in cash and investments—an awesome sum thought to be parked in an obscure subsidiary, Braeburn Capital, located across the California border in Reno because the state of Nevada doesn’t have corporate or capital-gains taxes.

Take that Microsoft! ;)

Nice that part of the turtlenecked overlord's legacy is wholesale tax evasion... Oh, and there's that issue of off-shore profits as well...

Should those boxes say:

- designed in California
- made in China
- profits hidden in Nevada and around the world​
 
Nice that part of the turtlenecked overlord's legacy is wholesale tax evasion... Oh, and there's that issue of off-shore profits as well...

Should those boxes say:

- designed in California
- made in China
- profits hidden in Nevada and around the world​

You mean Tax Avoidance, which is a bit more legal, and I would imagine quite common for large corporations.

Besides, the article itself says the following;

Apple has made money so quickly and so prodigiously that it holds an outrageous $76 billion in cash and investments—an awesome sum thought to be parked in an obscure subsidiary, Braeburn Capital, located across the California border in Reno because the state of Nevada doesn’t have corporate or capital-gains taxes.

Funny thing is, Microsoft does all of it's software licensing out of Reno Nevada. A city that does not charge taxes for software licenses (according to this 2009 article).

It is different than hosting bank accounts, but has the same effect, saving the host company some money in taxation.
 
Nice that part of the turtlenecked overlord's legacy is wholesale tax evasion... Oh, and there's that issue of off-shore profits as well...

Should those boxes say:

- designed in California
- made in China
- profits hidden in Nevada and around the world​


And here I thought you wouldn't take the opportunity to bash Apple. :rolleyes:

Don't fault Apple for playing the game under the current rules. All companies do it and have a responsibility to their shareholders to do so.

Our tax laws suck. That's the problem, not companies playing the game.
 
good points

You mean Tax Avoidance, which is a bit more legal, and I would imagine quite common for large corporations. ...

Funny thing is, Microsoft does all of it's software licensing out of Reno Nevada. A city that does not charge taxes for software licenses.

And here I thought you wouldn't take the opportunity to bash Apple. :rolleyes:

Don't fault Apple for playing the game under the current rules. All companies do it and have a responsibility to their shareholders to do so.

Our tax laws suck. That's the problem, not companies playing the game.


Good points, and a nice subtle distinction between "avoidance" and "evasion".

So, fair to say that "Apple is as bad as Microsoft"? ;)
 
Good points, and a nice subtle distinction between "avoidance" and "evasion".
So, fair to say that "Apple is as bad as Microsoft"? ;)
Nope. They are far better. Furthermore the CEO has not bought into the Gates/Buffett plan to "give" their assets to a "Foundation" run by their relatives and friends for a fee, to do some nebulus public good goal to escape any and all capital losses.

Does anybody here offhand remember the portion of non-profits that have to go the goal and the remainder can be overhead? Last I checked it was around 35%.

Rocketman

AS, contact me offline to get a court order supportive of your questionable civil rights goals. Questionable to the majority, the the reason for a constitution and the protection of minorities BTW.
 
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