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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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xbjllb said:
MAC OS USAGE DECLINES

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No, those percentages don't mean Mac OSX usage is on the decline, but that Mac OSX market is growing slower than other OS markets.


xbjllb said:
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The day of the big bag of hurt speech. The same day he dumped many hundreds of thousands of Apple's pro high end high ticket flagship content creator users.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

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Yes, because Apple just left us Pro users so high and dry. :rolleyes:

Neurotic - this is what you be.
 
cube said:
You can google the demo events. 2025 is NHK's target for broadcast. Nobody is even talking that it will be available as physical media.
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"broadcast" and potential release on physical media are completely different because their limiting factors are different. the bitrate required for broadcast of 8k cannot currently be achieved, its much closer on the optical side of things.


like i said - the holographic discs are nearly commercially ready (though that company has been waiting 4 years for some odd reason, must be implementation problems), who knows what will happen with Holographic discs.
 
DoFoT9 said:
"broadcast" and potential release on physical media are completely different because their limiting factors are different. the bitrate required for broadcast of 8k cannot currently be achieved, its much closer on the optical side of things.


like i said - the holographic discs are nearly commercially ready (though that company has been waiting 4 years for some odd reason, must be implementation problems), who knows what will happen with Holographic discs.
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"broadcast" by fiber. It is achieved in the demos.
 
cube said:
You can google the demo events. 2025 is NHK's target for broadcast. Nobody is even talking that it will be available as physical media.
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well, by the looks of it, Australia will not have fibre by that time :(

cube said:
"broadcast" by fiber. It is achieved in the demos.
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i dont see how 24gb/s can be compressed into fiber, but ok ;)

even compressed @~500mb/s, get 50 people on the one line and that is pushing the limits.

also to note: wiki states this will be available between 2016-2020 depending on which protocols/technologies in specific you are referring to.
 
linux2mac said:
This was the straw that broke the camel's back! That convinced me that Apple makes horrible products. I am going back to beautiful windows machines from Dell and HP. And for sure I am trading in my ugly 27" iMac that clearly ripped off its design from this beautiful Lenovo.

I never realized what a terrible decision I made to go Mac. Wow - I was fooled by Apple!! :confused:

Note: This was pure sarcasm. Apple products have made my life easier. Plus no other company has products that come close to Apple's elegant aesthetics. With Apple I have products that "just work" and they look great!
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There is a lot of emphasis on the beauty of machines here. That's fine, that's your personal taste, but we just ordered a core i7 980x machine (the equivalent Apple's mac pro 6 core) with 12 GB of RAM, a 1 TB hard drive, a Radeon 5870, and Blu Ray burner for $2200 shipped, tax included. We can save more cash by dropping blu-ray, but why bother at this price?

The apple six core, with a Radeon 5870, 3 GB of Ram, 1 TB hard drive, and aging super drive would cost us $4134 with tax, shipped free, plus another $450 in ram upgrades (12 GB) from OWC bringing us to $4584 total. Perhaps we can recoup $50 by selling the three useless 1 GB chips in the Mac pro.

Sure the mac looks pretty, but that's one gold digging trophy wife there.

Brands/appearance be damned when speed gets your work done, not case design.
 
DoFoT9 said:
well, by the looks of it, Australia will not have fibre by that time :(


i dont see how 24gb/s can be compressed into fiber, but ok ;)

even compressed @~500mb/s, get 50 people on the one line and that is pushing the limits.

also to note: wiki states this will be available between 2016-2020 depending on which protocols/technologies in specific you are referring to.
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They split the signal in 16 waves. That's how it fits.

Now you show the sources for those dates in wikipedia.
 
cube said:
They split the signal in 16 waves. That's how it fits.
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yes thats what they have done for a workaround now - hardly a usable thing at any rate.

cube said:
Now you show the sources for those dates in wikipedia.
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below link said:
The state broadcaster's plans for Super Hi-Vision itself are almost as ambitious. Test broadcasts are planned for 2015 – and 10 years later it hopes to begin full-time broadcasts
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The BBC has already said it hopes closed-circuit Super Hi-Vision feeds of the 2012 Olympics in London could be shown on outdoor screens in major cities around the UK.
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Link^

lots of contradiction.

2016?
 
xbjllb said:
And just how long have you and Mr Jobs been dating? :rolleyes:

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Apparently not long enough for me to have unlimited access to his Gulfstream V. :D
jobs-n2n-gulfstream-gift.jpg
 
xbjllb said:
MAC OS USAGE DECLINES

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Adrian Kingsley-Hughes gets half way to answering his question as to why the Mac OS began to decline in Web activity when he discussed the iOS becoming the 2nd biggest OS. What came out April 3rd of this year? I, for one, have been doing much more of my web surfing on my iPad these days. Notice the pronounced rise in iOS activity that runs parallel to the Mac OS's decline.

Also, things like "sales were at an all-time high" and 33% year-over-year growth hardly seem like harbingers of doom.
 
xbjllb said:
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The day of the big bag of hurt speech. The same day he dumped many hundreds of thousands of Apple's pro high end high ticket flagship content creator users.

Chickens are coming home to roost.

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How, pray tell, did he lose "many hundreds of thousands of Apple's pro high end high ticket flagship content creator users" that day? Please tell me you are not drawing this conclusion based solely on Apple not putting Blu-Ray in their products.
 
DoFoT9 said:
500GB holographic discs tested/demoded in 2009

basic experiements using different materials for HDs (holographic discs) 1996

basic methodologies of reading data from HD 1999
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Cutting edge stuff invariably takes lots of money and lots of time. Feel free to revisit your above references and report back what the TRL is for each of these items at each date.

FWIW, I glanced at your 2009 referenced item briefly - - nothing there to really gage anything about the TRL. This link is better; by what I see there, I'd say that their major milestone was a successful TRL 3. Since retail products are at TRL 9, they have a long ways to go, and I'd say that they have at least a good six (6) years if they're well funded.


-hh
 
MorphingDragon said:
Neurotic - this is what you be.
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Obsessed with me... this is what ye be.

MacNewsFix said:
How, pray tell, did he lose "many hundreds of thousands of Apple's pro high end high ticket flagship content creator users" that day? Please tell me you are not drawing this conclusion based solely on Apple not putting Blu-Ray in their products.
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I'll let history tell you. Talk to me in four, maybe five years.

IF this forum is still here despite Apple's demise.

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xbjllb said:
Obsessed with me... this is what ye be.



I'll let history tell you. Talk to me in four, maybe five years.

IF this forum is still here despite Apple's demise.

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Haha lol...This Mac vs. PC will never die, huh? People like you have said this kind of dumb **** since the 80's. "Oh, talk to me in 5 years if Apple's still around...".

Granted, I do think that the Mac Pro is overpriced, but maybe it isn't. I don't know the statistics, do you? I doubt it, as you'd probably have more pertinent things to do than to play your Micky Mouse games on bulletin boards. People like you make Windows users look bad.

(Disclosure: I've only had two Mac's in my life. One in '94 and this one, going on 7 weeks strong)
 
Crunch said:
(Disclosure: I've only had two Mac's in my life. One in '94 and this one, going on 7 weeks strong)
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Good to know. Fed up with all the numerous windows shortcomings I had to endure over a decade, I switched to a Linux desktop (2007) then I bought my first Mac (iMac) last October. I couldn't be happier and still have no idea why all these windows people are here ragging on the Mac. Since I went to Mac, I have had friends, family, and clients switch as well. All are in agreement of how the Mac "just works" unlike their days of buggy windows.
 
janstett said:
Your argument is already torpedoed by real life -- the PS3.

We already have a console that was among the first Blu-Ray players. It has from the beginning been one of the best Blu-Ray players as far as features and picture quality, and early on was cheapest. It has proven more flexible than stand-alone Blu-Ray players as it is updatable via firmware -- thus it has grown from a profile 1.1 player to a profile 2.0 player and will grow again to a 3D player. No other stand-alone Blu-Ray player can say that, with stand-alones you have to buy new hardware.

Even the XBox 360's dead HD-DVD add on pioneered new ground -- converting the new high-res audio to DTS over SPDIF for one; VGA 1080p for another.
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tell you the truth no it is not.
Early on PS3 was cheaper than bluRay players so just for a BluRay player it made logical since.
The most a PS3 cost over a BluRay player the less logical since it makes to get a PS3. It how much extra are you paying for a game consel.

I wanted a 360 for a game consul first and the DVD player part is a bonus. Now right now for a bluRay player it is a lot cheaper go get a player since I am not willing to pay the extra cost for the game consul part of a PS3.
 
Crunch said:
Haha lol...This Mac vs. PC will never die, huh? People like you have said this kind of dumb **** since the 80's. "Oh, talk to me in 5 years if Apple's still around...".

Granted, I do think that the Mac Pro is overpriced, but maybe it isn't. I don't know the statistics, do you? I doubt it, as you'd probably have more pertinent things to do than to play your Micky Mouse games on bulletin boards. People like you make Windows users look bad.

(Disclosure: I've only had two Mac's in my life. One in '94 and this one, going on 7 weeks strong)
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Talk to me in one year.

I know of two more sizable law firms, and three more music production companies, in the Tri-State area, which are moving from Windows to Mac.

The price difference for Pro equipment in negligible after one considers the increased productivity due to reduction of downtime, and the lack of expenditures for IT maintenance.

Viral Windows campaigning on a Mac forum is about as effective as promoting abortion on a 'Pro Life' forum.

Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
linux2mac said:
All are in agreement of how the Mac "just works" unlike their days of buggy windows.
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Blu-Ray doesn't "just work" on the mac, despite people saying it is possible to rip and watch with 3rd party hardware. That sucks.

Open GL 3 doesn't "just work" in Cinema 4d on the mac, have to move to Windows for that. And even if it did, I'm looking at a drop in performance of real time 3d on the mac anyway.

I'm tired of the "just work" mentality on the mac when all it means is that there are a couple of things that "just work," while everything else is a struggle to justify the immense price premium for the headaches I endure.
 
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