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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Download is the future I suppose. There will always be a market for high quality video and audio though. That being said, I don't care for blurry on my PC. Early on I thought I did, but really no. I use hulu, netflix, abc, NBC, and iTunes for viewing content on desktop and mobile devices. When a good blurry movie comes out, I buy the blurry disc and watch it on my flat screen. Everything has been working out so far.
Let's see... my Internet connection is 10 mbps (around 1.2 MB/sec). A Blu-ray movie is around 35 GB. At 1.2 MB/sec, that means I download those 35 GB in 8 hours, 6 minutes, completely saturating my Internet connection and making it useless for anything else.
Checking out Google maps, the nearest Best Buy is 22 minutes away, one way. 44 minutes to drive to and drive back, leaving me 7 hours, 22 minutes to browse around the store and buy just 1 movie and be back home in the same time it took to download.
Also, my Internet provider has decided to cap me at 100 GB per month. Meaning I can't even get 3 35 GB movies without busting it. That's not to mention I can't be getting anything else if I do go for those 3 movies...
Instant gratification ? What is Steve on about. Seems to me I'd be much better served going to Best Buy and buying my movies. The only limit there is what my wallet will allow and what will fit in my car (though I doubt there's enough good movies out there to fill my Subaru). Not to mention movies costs the same and I will have an actual physical copy I can watch offline and store on a reliable media (hard drives are not reliable, optical media can last for years and years).
Thank god for my PS3. At least some company understands what is needed NOW, TODAY. I don't care what's to come in 5 years, when 2015 rolls around, I'll be using a different computer anyway.
Checking out Google maps, the nearest Best Buy is 22 minutes away, one way. 44 minutes to drive to and drive back, leaving me 7 hours, 22 minutes to browse around the store and buy just 1 movie and be back home in the same time it took to download.
Also, my Internet provider has decided to cap me at 100 GB per month. Meaning I can't even get 3 35 GB movies without busting it. That's not to mention I can't be getting anything else if I do go for those 3 movies...
Instant gratification ? What is Steve on about. Seems to me I'd be much better served going to Best Buy and buying my movies. The only limit there is what my wallet will allow and what will fit in my car (though I doubt there's enough good movies out there to fill my Subaru). Not to mention movies costs the same and I will have an actual physical copy I can watch offline and store on a reliable media (hard drives are not reliable, optical media can last for years and years).
Thank god for my PS3. At least some company understands what is needed NOW, TODAY. I don't care what's to come in 5 years, when 2015 rolls around, I'll be using a different computer anyway.
OMG, do you really think that?
I'm sure he reads everything he can lay his hands on,
about what Wall St is going to do next
and then (and only then?).............
he'll make his next Apple decision?
Yeah, right
Well, you're already an Android fanboy so switch back to Windows and be done with it. Then we won't have to read your posts anymore. Oh wait. I just added you to my ignore list. Problem solved.
I agree, from a compliance standpoint and from a security standpoint, physical media isn't going to go anywhere anytime "soon", however I think in this case, Apple is targeting the "masses" and their media consumption habits.
Its like the difference between the people who had a "boom box" back in the day, and those audiophiles who had the huge stereo component racks. Sure the racks of gear make your music sound amazing, with those huge speakers and cables and everything, but the majority of users liked using their simple dual tape deck radios to play their music.
The money is with the masses.
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Have you even look at the % of Apple's revenue from iTunes? They barely make less than $200 million from it. The primary reason for iTunes is to push hardware sales. Jobs care much more about hardware sales than he does about iTunes sales. Small Apple TV sales is nothing compared to large sales from laptops/desktops. If Steve cares about AppleTV, he couldn't call it a "hobby" device.
The same argument could've been made 10 years ago about DVDs.
Bye bye
Oh, I'll still stick around
Btw why do people keep on saying blu Ray is too expensive? Nowadays they are pretty much the same priceas normal DVDs, it's the blu Ray players that are expensive but they are coming down in price very fast as well.
I can rip the DVDs I already have. I honestly think that Blu-Rays are more LaserDisc than DVD. The quality is awesome on Blu-Ray, but I'm already hearing about SuperHD TVs being worked on (expect them this holiday). Microsoft is already working on 3D TVs without glasses.. amazing.. I know...
I'm not just saying all this because I'm blind to any wrongs Apple does.. The PC is a far better Media Centre. I've tried Plex and XBMC and a few others on the Mac and Windows Media Centre is BY FAR the better living room device. If you're looking for a high end Media PC that does Blu-Ray you're FAR FAR better off with a PC with WMC and a Blu-Ray drive. The OS is a better experience for that distance; far smoother; more options.
My contention is that the Mac is a better computer and for a non-living room device, I'm totally down with downloads. The convenience and price beats Blu-Ray so much so that I don't have my PS3 hooked up anymore.
When Apple makes a real living room device (besides the Apple TV) I'll get it a little more for them to consider Blu-Ray, but I totally think that Blu-Ray will be selling less in a year or two. It's on the way out. Something better will replace it QUICKLY. This does not have the shelf life of DVD.
well, he thinks when he does something unusual stuff, it will be shown off or hit the homerun like ipod, iphone, whatever? I don't think that Steve or Apple will hit big one continually without failure. they will be failed someday just like MS. do you think that Apple is different from MS? we will see.
by the way, I don't understand why Steve still thinks that internet downloadable content quality is higher than physical stuff (bluray or DVD, even CD). in terms of quality, there is nothing to beat them. downloadable content is sucks if you really care about quality. bluray is current trend, popular format. why does he deny it? so far, Apple has been lucky. but who knows? someday it will be fallen like back in 1990s. I was one of fan boys for Apple. but the passion has been slowly cold down nowadays. if they won't add Bluray by stubborn mind, customers won't buy mac anymore. I bet him.
by the way, I don't understand why Steve still thinks that internet downloadable content quality is higher than physical stuff (bluray or DVD, even CD). in terms of quality, there is nothing to beat them. downloadable content is sucks if you really care about quality. bluray is current trend, popular format. why does he deny it? so far, Apple has been lucky. but who knows? someday it will be fallen like back in 1990s. I was one of fan boys for Apple. but the passion has been slowly cold down nowadays. if they won't add Bluray by stubborn mind, customers won't buy mac anymore. I bet him.
Priorities not in right place
Please focus your energy on fixing the iPhone4 antenna issue and don't worry so much about spewing predictions about the uncertain future.
What we know now is that the iPhone antenna was not as well thought out as you proclaim and now Apple will dance and avoid the issue as long as it can.
Hey Steve, Flash is running well on 2.2 Android phones. Any comment?
Please focus your energy on fixing the iPhone4 antenna issue and don't worry so much about spewing predictions about the uncertain future.
What we know now is that the iPhone antenna was not as well thought out as you proclaim and now Apple will dance and avoid the issue as long as it can.
Hey Steve, Flash is running well on 2.2 Android phones.
Any comment?Call me strange but when I buy something I want it to be tangible (touch it) Digital media for me is great for a one of thing when I don't have my movie available or can't find it at the store and only then I will rent off iTunes or stream the net for it. I don't want to pay for something I don't physically receive.
I also live in Australia, where internet is terrible! If I wanted to download 10GB it would take me over 2 hours assuming I actually get it form a source that will maximise my bandwidth capabilities. So much for instant pleasure.
Give me Blu-Ray and a screen capable of watching it on a Macbook Pro
I also live in Australia, where internet is terrible! If I wanted to download 10GB it would take me over 2 hours assuming I actually get it form a source that will maximise my bandwidth capabilities. So much for instant pleasure.
Give me Blu-Ray and a screen capable of watching it on a Macbook Pro
What part of "duh" don't you understand?
Dude, this is classic corporate politics and vested interest in market shares. After Apple went into the portable electronics market (iPod, iPhone, iPad, et. al.) they have compromised Sony's consumer electronics market share. The iPod almost wiped out the worldwide Sony WalkMan market.
From that, Sony is not happy to share their latest gem (BluRay) with Apple anytime soon. You want BluRay on your Mac, get a third party drive. They are out there and shipping now.
People who buy high quality home entertainment centers (big screen 1080p TVs with 5.1 digital surround sound) are not going to settle for streamed content unless that content manages to provide a Blu-Ray level of fidelity, and streaming (and even downloading) has a looooong way to go before it reaches that level. Seriously, watch a movie on Blu-Ray and see if you can really go back to something streaming.
Who says you have to re-buy everything? With very few exceptions, I haven't re-bought any movies I already owned on DVD on Blu. Blu-ray players will still play your DVDs, in fact, they'll even upscale them so they'll look better on your high def TV than they did on your regular DVD player. It's not like VHS where if you didn't want to add an additional component to your home theater system, you had to rebuy everything. Just replace your DVD player with a Blu-ray player, and start buying new movies on Blu and keep the old ones on DVD. A Blu-ray player will still play them.
I keep hearing the argument about people not wanting to re-buy their entire collection, and I don't get it. You don't have to re-buy anything.
You do realize blu-ray is the only format that's capable of supporting the higher resolutions and 3D films right? They are now able to record 100-128GB for a blu-ray disc with support for 200GB soon.
Please focus your energy on fixing the iPhone4 antenna issue and don't worry so much about spewing predictions about the uncertain future.
What we know now is that the iPhone antenna was not as well thought out as you proclaim and now Apple will dance and avoid the issue as long as it can.
Hey Steve, Flash is running well on 2.2 Android phones.
Oh do please post a video
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