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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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The irony is that Apple was on the Bluray Consortium when Microsoft was getting the movie studios to side with them on HD-DVD during the format war. Now that that's all over they could care less about Bluray. They just sided with them to stop Microsoft from winning the format war.
 
KnightWRX said:
Let's see... my Internet connection is 10 mbps (around 1.2 MB/sec).
Thank god for my PS3. At least some company understands what is needed NOW, TODAY. I don't care what's to come in 5 years, when 2015 rolls around, I'll be using a different computer anyway.
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Actually that same company almost paid for being to in the future with Bluray the PS3 was extremely expensive and HD Bluray was a novelty at the time... I see reasoning behind not having it in Mac's from a company stand point. NOW don't get me wrong I love my PS3 (I have the 60 gb one that has all the best features)..... I guess on the contrary it would be nice to future proof them.
 
DakotaGuy said:
Last, I would love to know the bitrate of the Dolby Digital 5.1 track on the iTunes downloads. I'm thinking it is probably pretty low. DVD is 480 kbit/s and Blu-ray is 640 kbit/s. I'm guessing that BD will give a better audio performance even without using the advanced audio formats. I find the standard lossy formats to be quite acceptable, however people who spend thousands on high end equipment won't. You are not going to invest 3-4K into a home theater system for a low bitrate iTunes DD track. Dolby Digital+ is a much improved lossy format, but its file size is also larger. I don't think Apple will adopt it unless enough people complain about audio quality. Uncompressed formats like Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master Audio are out of the question for downloads unless people want to download gigabytes of audio data on top of gigabytes of video data.
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A solution would be using DTS (full bitrate) like in the dvd of Gladiator or U-571...(there's not a lot of DVD actually using full DTS, most use half-bitrate DTS which is about equal to Dolby Digital) Nobody could tell the difference between full DTS and the new lossless formats...
 
BornAgainMac said:
Blu-ray doesn't make sense for a mobile devices company. Sort of like a tire company making phones. Cheap inexpensive PCs can fill this void for people that need it. I do wish I can download 1080p Blu-ray quality video or at least stream it just as easy as 720p.
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Oh sure, Apple is a 'mobile devices company' if you were born yesterday. Some of us have been using Macs since before you whippersnappers were in diapers, and no, we don't see 'cheap inexpensive PCs' as an acceptable alternative.

You know, sometimes Apple's forward thinking makes sense… Dropping the 3 1/2 inch floppy and switching to USB were good examples. The industry was clutching to some pretty old technology at the time and the iMac gave it just the kick in the pants it needed. But Blu-ray is hardly outdated technology, and frankly, the alternative Jobs presents just isn't there yet for most people. Apple has clearly forgotten how to listen to its customers. It now dictates the way we should work, and that can be seen in its policy on Flash (although I personally agree with that one), Blu-ray, and of course, how we should hold our phones.
 
Mark Booth said:
Apple could make it a build-to-order OPTION. Just as they once did with SuperDrives. Standalone Blu-ray players are now selling for less than $100 and those companies are making a profit at that price point. Apple's cost would probably be less than $30 per unit, including licensing fees. Apple could sell it as an option for $100 and make plenty of profit.

Mark
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As the line up of Apple product is right now.. the only machine that can fit a blue ray drive without re design is the mac pro. Don't think they will redesign the rest of the line up cause "supposedly" there is a niche to fill.
OWC offers a great array of external drives and internal for Mac Pro, VLC play back BR long time ago. There is no point to add it now either.. is pointless to argue a company that had proven again and again at the time to pick what to bring to the public. ;)
 
CFreymarc said:
Dude, this is classic corporate politics and vested interest in market shares. After Apple went into the portable electronics market (iPod, iPhone, iPad, et. al.) they have compromised Sony's consumer electronics market share. The iPod almost wiped out the worldwide Sony WalkMan market.

From that, Sony is not happy to share their latest gem (BluRay) with Apple anytime soon. You want BluRay on your Mac, get a third party drive. They are out there and shipping now.
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Nothing personal, but u are clueless if u really believe that. Sony has no say over who can license blu-ray and it's in Sony's best interest to have BD out there on as many devices as possible. The only reason macs dont have BD drives is because of some stupid personal vendetta Jobs has against physical media.
 
Jobs must put his money where his mouth is and remove the cd and dvd players from ALL Macs

We can download the movies and the software...
 
plokoonpma said:
As the line up of Apple product is right now.. the only machine that can fit a blue ray drive without re design is the mac pro. Don't think they will redesign the rest of the line up cause "supposedly" there is a niche to fill.
OWC offers a great array of external drives and internal for Mac Pro, VLC play back BR long time ago. There is no point to add it now either.. is pointless to argue a company that had proven again and again at the time to pick what to bring to the public. ;)
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Really, how about the BR drives in laptops for the past few years? Last time I checked, they were BluRay.
 
Too bad Apple isn't in the computer business anymore. They are pretty much an afterthought now.

Steve Jobs: "Let's add some more RAM and upgrade the processor 1 ghz and roll out a new Macbook Pro and call it a day."
 
decadentdave said:
The irony is that Apple was on the Bluray Consortium when Microsoft was getting the movie studios to side with them on HD-DVD during the format war. Now that that's all over they could care less about Bluray. They just sided with them to stop Microsoft from winning the format war.
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The only reason for this is because Jobs is also the majority shareholder of Disney/Pixar, which supported Blu-ray. I think Apple's move here was purely to support Disney/Pixar, not Apple.
 
AppleFreak89 said:
i agree with jobs 100%
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What else to expect? Your user name is AppleFreak89 - so you like, you are and you were born in.

Maybe, just maybe you are wrong with Stevo. Only, he's getting pay for it and it's about his infinite ego. What's your excuse?
 
SirHaakon said:
Yes, he did. I wasn't contesting that. What are you talking about?
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You make it sound as though he fell over it. :confused:

He (and some brilliant staff) brought Apple back from the brink! :apple: :D

Not jumping to BR isn't going to be a mistake (even if you disagree with him),
only similar to dumping the 3.5" 'floppy' from the iMac, man was he ever wrong there! :rolleyes:
 
wreckshop said:
Of course the general public knows and cares and understands (to some degree) the difference between 720p and 1080p. If they didnt manufacturers wouldnt market 1080p as a feature at all.

The reason why people buy that 720p tv from walmart is because it's cheap. I guarantee u that if u had 2 same size TVs and the only diff between both was one was 1080p and the other 720p, the vast majority of the time people will pick the 1080p TV as long as the premium was within their budget.
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Of course they will be the 1080p set, 1080 is obviously better than 720, but why, do you think the average consumer knows the difference in the lines of resolution? Or do you think think they see the larger number and just assume it is better, never thinking about whether or not they even have 1080p content available to them?
 
Who needs Blu Ray when we'll soon live in a streaming multimedia utopia? Where you can simply reach into the cloud and and download any movie to any device as many times as you like, in full 1080p hidef goodness! It's gonna be great.......then At&t will put a 2gb cap on it and we'll go back to using discs.
 
kernkraft said:
What else to expect? Your user name is AppleFreak89 - so you like, you are and you were born in.

Maybe, just maybe you are wrong with Stevo. Only, he's getting pay for it and it's about his infinite ego. What's your excuse?
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Gee, maybe he's not as upset, as you are, about BR and Flash, you think? :)
 
wreckshop said:
Nothing personal, but u are clueless if u really believe that. Sony has no say over who can license blu-ray and it's in Sony's best interest to have BD out there on as many devices as possible. The only reason macs dont have BD drives is because of some stupid personal vendetta Jobs has against physical media.
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My friend, you are the naive one. There are published standards, there are standards committees, there are board meetings and public product plans and then there is how business really gets done.

Enjoy your 401K and stock portfolio. Someday you may be part of the real world of people that make a difference and not jump their buy or sell orders to press releases and cable TV channels.
 
This is frustrating. I had CD-ROM and CD-RW when my PC friends were still using floppy. I had a superdrive when my friends barely had CD burners.

Fast forward to Blu-Ray. We don't even get a combo drive. Not everyone has a 100Mbps, unlimited internet connection. In Australia the average is closer to 1.5Mbps with a 10-20GB limit. Yay, one hour of your favourite 1080p movie every month. :rolleyes:

Not to mention that many people want Blu-Ray for storage purposes, not just for movies. All the arguments against a Blu-Ray drive also go against a DVD drive. So why do macs still have DVD drives? Because if they didn't, they would be seen as a complete joke.

****.
 
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