The ones I've posted are available in the retail space. They are not even over the top expensive.
I agree they are not mainstream yet but they are still available to buy as a standard off the shelf item from non-specialist retail stores.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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The ones I've posted are available in the retail space. They are not even over the top expensive.
I agree they are not mainstream yet but they are still available to buy as a standard off the shelf item from non-specialist retail stores.
Incorrect (and Strike One): the base iPad is 16GB and $200 less.
Irrelevant, since you've moved the goal posts (and Strike Two).
Before or after the goal posts were moved?
In any event, none of these claims have any citations to independent tests to substantiate (thus, Strike Three), and since the Asus's battery pack doesn't last as long as the iPad's, you're once again guilty of getting lost in the tecchie weeds and losing perspective on what the consumer experience may also consider equally or more important (Strike four).
Golly, since you're the very first person who has discovered the application of SSDs for laptops and the like
then you had better get publishing some objective & quantitatively repeatable benchmarks. FWIW, from what I've read to date, the Sandforce is only around 10% faster overall than the older Intel X25's, and since storage media is a subsystem, the system level performance change will invariably be less. YMMV as to what point one might have hit diminishing returns and that slippery slope. Well, there should be little doubt that it does it better than a Kindle
. Of course, this thread topic is about the HD medium Blue Ray and the Mac. The bottom line of all technology is that there's invariably going to be a trade-off somewhere. In the competitive market of capitalism, the consumer gets to vote with his wallet as to which of these compromises suits him best.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but your personal choice apparently is that you're willing to sacrifice several metrics (including battery life) in pursuit of the currently holy grail of 1080p, since pushing 1080p takes some horsepower, which results in increases to a portable system's weight, kills its battery life, increases it storage/bandwidth demands, higher costs, and/or all of the above.
Fortunately, you're not being forced to buy products that you don't like, so Apple's failings (in your view) to offer a turnkey BR solution simply means that the capitalist marketplace will service you elsewhere...assuming of course that you really are a viable business model segment for them to bother to service.
Finally, insofar as the question as to why any supplier makes the decisions that they have ... well, that's the dead horse which has been beaten upon here for over 130 pages, and I doubt that its going to reach a sudden breakthrough and resolution today. Afterall, the direction of retail marketing of movie media is currently pushing "Combo" sets: this is an indicator of what the Studios believe that their path forward is. They might not be correct, but it is nevertheless what they currently believe is the right choice for them.
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Oh groovy baby... do those come with rootkits too then?
Ooooooooh.
Those kind of "clever" quips are so feeble, one could easily conclude you're a faux-troll... perhaps planted by MacRumors themselves, just to stir up "controversy" and ignite a tiny flame under the faithful. Meh... head on over to thalo.net and get some real training.
Okay... that's slightly better. But you still come off a little whiney. [and i swear i detect a note of jealously as well.]
Oh yeah.
Good luck... let us know how that works out for you.The thing I find interesting is the marketing of the Final Cut Pro suite as being the latest and greatest. It's also exclusively on the Mac. It heralds Blu-Ray content creation and yet the Mac won't have Blu-Ray "anytime soon."
Mixed messaging there...
Mixed messaging there...
Apple's bottom line success today is merely a bubble. The wise are well to get out now before it pops.
You should get an 800 number and charge money for your predictions. Could you list the top five stocks for this year so everyone here on MR and I can retire? Actually better yet, can you post this Wednesday's Power Ball winning numbers? Then I will buy a dozen 27" ACD's with my earnings and create a setup like Tony Stark. Nah I will do one better and have Apple custom make a 100" ACD for me.
I hear you bro... i just created this beautiful document in Pages, but i can't print it.
Imagine that... all this money for a computer and it can't even print a single piece of paper. You'd think there'd be a built-in color laser printer or something. Shucks, guess i'll have to go out and buy me one of them, what-cha-ma-call-it... "peripherals"?
These are not Sony computer systems. These are Supermicro systems sold within a pro software and hardware package in partnership with Sony Creative Software.
I hear you bro... i just created this beautiful document in Pages, but i can't print it.
Shucks, guess i'll have to go out and buy me one of them, what-cha-ma-call-it... "peripherals"?
You're so clever and witty. I aspire to reach your level of logic.
And just so we're 100 percent clear - I am 100 percent sarcastic.
Your "argument" is faulty at best anyway. A desktop computer doesn't natively come with a printer BUILT IN whereas plenty of computers can have a blu-ray drive. Notice the difference there?
Haven't you heard Blu Ray is dead? Even Ballmer & Co. now accept its fate. "Blu-ray is being "passed by". Digital downloads are the future"
http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2010/09/microsoft_apple_in_sync_on_bluray.html
Until you're able to stream true HD content - blu-ray or other HD hard media will still exist.
Apple, Netflix, Hulu, etc - they have misguided the public into believe that just because the resolution they are getting is HD - that means they are getting HD content. What they fail to explain is that the BITRATE for HD they are providing is not even CLOSE (1/10th often) what true HD is.
And as long as there are people who demand the best quality in sound and picture - and until the internet can stream such speeds as to deliver these bitrates (25-50 gig per 2 hour movie) - physical media isn't dead.
My .02
Nothing in the world more irritating...
...than Job's incessant "Blu-ray is dead" acolytes. For the love of humanity, Men (in name only), get up off your knees and wipe the proverbial spooge off your faces before you post.
And that goes whether you're a paid whore (find another job with integrity) or merely a slut giving it away, or a brat with a personal problem with Sony over some sort of video game BS.
EVERY last one of your "arguments" has been decimated not only long ago, but over and over and over and over. Blu-ray will be around longer than Apple COMPUTERS, sadly.
...than Job's incessant "Blu-ray is dead" acolytes. For the love of humanity, Men (in name only), get up off your knees and wipe the proverbial spooge off your faces before you post.
And that goes whether you're a paid whore (find another job with integrity) or merely a slut giving it away, or a brat with a personal problem with Sony over some sort of video game BS.
EVERY last one of your "arguments" has been decimated not only long ago, but over and over and over and over. Blu-ray will be around longer than Apple COMPUTERS, sadly.
Now we're talking....than Job's incessant "Blu-ray is dead" acolytes. For the love of humanity, Men (in name only), get up off your knees and wipe the proverbial spooge off your faces before you post.
And that goes whether you're a paid whore (find another job with integrity) or merely a slut giving it away, or a brat with a personal problem with Sony over some sort of video game BS.
EVERY last one of your "arguments" has been decimated not only long ago, but over and over and over and over. Blu-ray will be around longer than Apple COMPUTERS, sadly.
[you should read the gentle posts i've made that were modded out.]
EDIT: i was right, you are a MR plant.
Blu-ray will be around longer than Apple COMPUTERS, sadly.
You finally convinced me. It's time for me to sell off my Apple products before Apple files Chapter 11. Could you recommend a PC that will replace my 27" C2D iMac? It needs to be an all in one elegant design to fit on my desk. I don't want a clunky tower on the floor next to me. Also, I need at least a 2560 X 1440 display resolution and backlit LED. And what is a good gaming router to replace my Airport? I miss having to get up and reboot my Linksys in the middle of online gaming on my PS3.
Question for posters like yourself. Why is it that the merest suggestion that Apple may be wrong and/or other technologies will still thrive despite not being supported cause someone to make such extremist comments. No one said you should sell off your Apple stock or get rid of your computers. Not even close. So why the hyperbole?
...than Job's incessant "Blu-ray is dead" acolytes. For the love of humanity, Men (in name only), get up off your knees and wipe the spooge off your faces before you post.
And that goes whether you're a paid whore (find another job with integrity) or merely a slut giving it away.
EVERY last one of your "arguments" has been decimated not only long ago, but over and over and over and over. Blu-ray will be around longer than Apple COMPUTERS, sadly.
I love my bluray but I am sure that within the next 5 years online video is going to take off.
Yeah, and that of course will be the end of Blu-ray. After all, you can't buy those things... what were they called again... You know, those physical thingies with music on them ? Heck, you can't buy CDs anymore...
Oh wait...
Umm, that poster has been preaching of Apple's demise throughout this thread. So I just want to make sure I have the next best thing recommended by the expert himself. I am so glad he is here on Mac Rumors to let me know the poor choice I made in buying Apple products.
There you go with logic again
Clearly if APPLE dismisses the platform it will die off. Because Apple has marketshare greater than any other desktop platform. Oh wait. That wasn't Apple now was it.
And before someone quotes Microsoft - there are those pesky stand alone devices that don't even require a computer.
But for those that want to kill off the physical media (now) - It's ironic that you hail Apple for it's quality and innovation yet you are happy to settle for mediocrity when it comes to picture/sound by streaming to your tv sets and monitors vs the specs blu-ray has to offer...
Except that you've failed to explain reality. Specifically, why the Studios have stopped embracing BD as the sole path forward and have changed direction by developing 3-way combo packs of {BD + DVD + DC (Digital Copy)} ... and not only that, but they are actively selling & marketing their IP wares at often surprisingly aggressive price points.
Sure, one could be tempted to suggest that its simple greed for profits...except that the price points don't support this: looking at the contemporary example of Alice in Wonderland on Amazon, we find that the studios areare only able to command a literal one buck ($1) price increase in the marketplace (from $25.99 to $26.99), despite them having to incur the additional expenses of tripling the number of physical disks in the retail box from one to three.
The bottom line is that real world actions trump mere words being posted on MR, and here, the real world is that these IP owners are making business decisions that risks their own IP and they're doing so with their own wallet and revenue stream...and what they're doing is not just a silo of Blue Ray.
Thus, what you've failed to address is why we should ignore the fact that these real world Stakeholders are hedging their bets with their own wallets, IP, and revenue stream, into the alternatives to BD.
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And you are wrong. It's called a Depression for a reason. And by mid 2011, indisputable and universally recognized.
And you have no idea how much infrastructure is going to not only stagnate, but REGRESS in the coming decade.
Here's reality. Infrastructure will not be able to deliver a Blu-ray quality download for the majority of the buying public for at least fifteen years. Sure, some ******s will convince some of the people some of the time that inferior quality is equivalent or even superior, but that won't beat obvious superiority.
Especially as big screen plasma and LCD TV prices come down in desperation; WAY down and fill many more homes.
The days of 90% of the public being able to download a Blu-ray quality movie in an hour will come after homes have full wall telescreens and possibly even later.
Optical media will not be disappearing for at least a decade, thieves and pirates notwithstanding.
Now we're talking.
[you should read the gentle posts i've made that were modded out.]
EDIT: i was right, you are a MR plant.
Maybe they know I'm right and have the same exact concerns about Apple that I have.
http://eshop.macsales.com/search/blu-ray+burner
Pathetic or disingenuous, huh? Well, there are those who don't like to spend another $100-$200 (and from what I understand, it'd be more like $250-$300, especially if you consider the so-called "Apple tax") for something that they, and in this case, *I* would NOT make ANY use of! Those who think like you, "...oh, come on, you're already spending well over $2,000, what's another couple of hundred bucks?" usually are people who always whine about having no money because they think like you: "...don't be cheap, just pay another $$$ since you're already buying this, that, and the other from Apple which is known for being expensive, so it can hardly make a difference", right??? WRONG! Because that line of thinking will make you do exactly that every time you purchase from Apple, and likely also from other vendors and those "couple hundred bucks" attitude will quickly add up, my friend!
In fact, you're already crying about the so-called "Apple tax", so I guess you just made my point for me.
Without going into further detail, it's about principle, too, besides being wasteful with money. I'd rather put those extra couple of hundred bucks on something I DO want, such as an external RAID storage device, or an Apple TV with money left over to watch movies for a month. Ya feel me, brutha?
More like "Ballmer took it in the shorts on HD-DVD and is now crying sour grapes."
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