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Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming. This is just the beginning of the end for physical media. One day all BD movies will be available instantly on Netflix and I will no longer have to wait for them to arrive in the mail. I will just add them to my instant queue.

If you think the "1080p" with "5.1" sound Netflix gives you is anything compared to the 1080p, dolby true hd 7.1 sound blu-ray offers you need to put down the crack pipe.
 
Here is some more proof that eventually Blu Ray will go the way of the dodo.

Verizon Tests A 10 Gbps Connection For Both Upload And Download. Want.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/verizon-10-gbps/

As the system architect points out at the end of the video, "this is the future."

For the record, I do not have a dog in this hunt. I have Bu-ray, DVD and iTunes-purchased content.

All the bandwidth in the world is nice, but until the telcos let us actually consume all the bandwidth we want...

I'm on Comcast and they give me 250GB a month, which I believe puts me in the higher tiers of bandwidth allotment for the United States. But if I was downloading close to a BD worth of data (assuming video and one audio and maybe one sub track) in real-time via video on demand, I believe I would hit that limit within a dozen such movie viewings - assuming I used my connection for nothing else, at that.
 
For the record, I do not have a dog in this hunt. I have Bu-ray, DVD and iTunes-purchased content.

All the bandwidth in the world is nice, but until the telcos let us actually consume all the bandwidth we want...

I'm on Comcast and they give me 250GB a month, which I believe puts me in the higher tiers of bandwidth allotment for the United States. But if I was downloading close to a BD worth of data (assuming video and one audio and maybe one sub track) in real-time via video on demand, I believe I would hit that limit within a dozen such movie viewings - assuming I used my connection for nothing else, at that.

that is not the future - because that future will not exist IMO.

where the future is (it's NEARLY now) - the ISP offers the movies, currently my ISP offers movies (for rent or pay) and because they own the lines they dont charge you for that usage against your monthly quota. once BD quality comes into it then it will be much much better :)
 
Thats exactly the kind of thing i hate about apple.

Trying to control everything. I think they should use blu-ray since they don't have anything better (yet) to suggest.
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If you think the "1080p" with "5.1" sound Netflix gives you is anything compared to the 1080p, dolby true hd 7.1 sound blu-ray offers you need to put down the crack pipe.

Um... all those numbers only mean something when viewed in the living room on a 42-inch screen (or larger). The notion that Mac users should be getting all worked-up about having (or not having) such "impressive" technology jammed into a MacBook Pro with a 15-inch screen is hilarious!!!

Any more jokes? :D

[go buy a BD player, plug it in to your large-screen HDTV, and find something intelligent to watch.]
 
Thats exactly the kind of thing i hate about apple.

Trying to control everything. I think they should use blu-ray since they don't have anything better (yet) to suggest.

I can instantly discern that you've read all 142 pages of this thread, and given the whole matter your undivided attention and deepest thought. Your frustration was cleverly conveyed with most credible conviction. I sincerely hope your hatred for Apple doesn't cause you any further physical or mental distress (sleeplessness, anxiety, etc). Drink some herbal tea with honey, and bask in the light of a BSOD.
 
Um... all those numbers only mean something when viewed in the living room on a 42-inch screen (or larger). The notion that Mac users should be getting all worked-up about having (or not having) such "impressive" technology jammed into a MacBook Pro with a 15-inch screen is hilarious!!!

Any more jokes? :D

[go buy a BD player, plug it in to your large-screen HDTV, and find something intelligent to watch.]

nope they shouldnt get worked up over it. most correct on that point. however they should have the CHOICE. i can see the difference on my 17 inch screen and you always hear the difference in sound, given you have the hardware to produce it.
 
Um... all those numbers only mean something when viewed in the living room on a 42-inch screen (or larger). The notion that Mac users should be getting all worked-up about having (or not having) such "impressive" technology jammed into a MacBook Pro with a 15-inch screen is hilarious!!!

Any more jokes? :D

[go buy a BD player, plug it in to your large-screen HDTV, and find something intelligent to watch.]

By why do you assume that people want the bd player in their pro just to watch AVATAR? Maybe they are editing home hd movies and want to burn a bluray to give to a family member. Or even if they are watching movies, yeah, bd isn't so impressive in a little machine but if you have a bluray player in your living room and have a collection of bluray movies, maybe when you go out and want to watch something you own on your macpro, you just want to grab something from your collection.
 
By why do you assume that people want the bd player in their pro just to watch AVATAR?

Anyone who starts a comment on BD support by saying something like "if you don't have a +40" screen blah blah blah" should just be ignored.

They're reading from someone's "fact" sheet, and not using their brain to figure out that watching 2 Mpixel images at arm's length is a *lot* better than watching 307 Kpixel (DVD) images at that distance. (And even if their screen can't do 1920x1080, it's much better to downscale a sharp 2 Mpixel image to 1.4 Mpixel than to upscale a fuzzy 307 Kpixel image.)


...if you have a bluray player in your living room and have a collection of bluray movies, maybe when you go out and want to watch something you own on your macpro, you just want to grab something from your collection.

...oh yes, that too. ;)
 
Anyone who starts a comment on BD support by saying something like "if you don't have a +40" screen blah blah blah" should just be ignored.

They're reading from someone's "fact" sheet, and not using their brain to figure out that watching 2 Mpixel images at arm's length is a *lot* better than watching 307 Kpixel (DVD) images at that distance. (And even if their screen can't do 1920x1080, it's much better to downscale a sharp 2 Mpixel image to 1.4 Mpixel than to upscale a fuzzy 307 Kpixel image.)
:D Even with all that technobabble (apparently you're the one reading from fact sheets, not me), it still doesn't prove that Apple "needs" to build Macs with BD, just to give a handful complainers a "choice". Heavens, you kids take this so personally. Sorry but, it's not about you. Apple isn't shunning BD just to deprive you personally of the right to choose. [and your choices are many (Sony, Toshiba, etc)., so even that claim is a crock.] Try to come up with a more compelling reason... if one exists.

And get more people (maybe 67%) to start flooding forums and you might (MIGHT!) stand a better chance. I don't see anywhere near that many yet. Seems like only (a very vocal) 5 or 6% at most.

Actually, i had a bit too much wine earlier... and was ROTFLMAO reading this thread. I've changed my mind about it now... so let's keep it going as long as possible.
 
Bluray is a reality and apple ignore it. The present and future are HD, real HD not DVD SD. For some people that produce video we need bluray drives to make bluray for our clients. If you use a mac you want that. I have bought a PC to that, authoring bluray. Apple are so blind to them self. If you use HD cameras and see real HD compare to HD over web is a joke...for good HD we need bluray. HD over web is the future but for that we need better internet connections.

My guest is they will drop Final Cut Studio. since they drop xserve....
 
I can instantly discern that you've read all 142 pages of this thread, and given the whole matter your undivided attention and deepest thought. Your frustration was cleverly conveyed with most credible conviction. I sincerely hope your hatred for Apple doesn't cause you any further physical or mental distress (sleeplessness, anxiety, etc). Drink some herbal tea with honey, and bask in the light of a BSOD.

come at me brah
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I can instantly discern that you've read all 142 pages of this thread, and given the whole matter your undivided attention and deepest thought. Your frustration was cleverly conveyed with most credible conviction. I sincerely hope your hatred for Apple doesn't cause you any further physical or mental distress (sleeplessness, anxiety, etc). Drink some herbal tea with honey, and bask in the light of a BSOD.

Get up off your knees.

:apple:
 
that is not the future - because that future will not exist IMO.

where the future is (it's NEARLY now) - the ISP offers the movies, currently my ISP offers movies (for rent or pay) and because they own the lines they dont charge you for that usage against your monthly quota. once BD quality comes into it then it will be much much better :)

True, but that doesn't help people who wish to use services like NetFlix, Amazon, iTunes and such. And as a TivoHD owner, I cannot access Comcast OnDemand (I expect Tru2way will never make it out of CableLabs labs), so I am solely dependent on those other sources for "on demand" content.
 
:D Even with all that technobabble (apparently you're the one reading from fact sheets, not me), it still doesn't prove that Apple "needs" to build Macs with BD, just to give a handful complainers a "choice". Heavens, you kids take this so personally. Sorry but, it's not about you. Apple isn't shunning BD just to deprive you personally of the right to choose. [and your choices are many (Sony, Toshiba, etc)., so even that claim is a crock.] Try to come up with a more compelling reason... if one exists.

And get more people (maybe 67%) to start flooding forums and you might (MIGHT!) stand a better chance. I don't see anywhere near that many yet. Seems like only (a very vocal) 5 or 6% at most.

Actually, i had a bit too much wine earlier... and was ROTFLMAO reading this thread. I've changed my mind about it now... so let's keep it going as long as possible.


The 5% or 6% have convinced me. I am not going to buy the 11" MBA because there is no Blu Ray player and I won't be able to watch a BD on my 11" screen. I would rather lug a huge 17" Dell/HP through airport security on my next business trip. Anyone know where the Windows Rumors forum is? :rolleyes:
 
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Um... all those numbers only mean something when viewed in the living room on a 42-inch screen (or larger). The notion that Mac users should be getting all worked-up about having (or not having) such "impressive" technology jammed into a MacBook Pro with a 15-inch screen is hilarious!!!

Any more jokes? :D

You are so far off it's amazing. If you sit 8 feet away from your TV, then of course it comes into play on larger screens. But we're talking about computers, right?

Why can't you see the difference sitting 1-2 feet away from your screen, even if it is only 15 inches? My MacBook, with 15 inch screen is hooked up to a 24 inch 1920x1200 display. At normal comptuer viewing distance, anyone with eyes (or a brain) can see a big jump in image quality. It's easy to spot the difference on my Mac Pro when viewing an SD trailer versus an HD trailer, even on the 15 inch screen.

It never ceases to amaze me that you insist on not having an option on your computer. If everyone thought like you, nobody would want a better camera than the still image capability on the current iPod touch. Nobody would notice a difference in quality on the iPhone 4's retina display, because resolution only means anything on a 42 inch screen.

The upside is, since you can't see a difference, you'll be happy viewing 320p movies on youtube on an original iPod touch. You're missing out. Life is so much more detailed than you are capable of seeing.


Anyone who starts a comment on BD support by saying something like "if you don't have a +40" screen blah blah blah" should just be ignored.

They're reading from someone's "fact" sheet, and not using their brain to figure out that watching 2 Mpixel images at arm's length is a *lot* better than watching 307 Kpixel (DVD) images at that distance. (And even if their screen can't do 1920x1080, it's much better to downscale a sharp 2 Mpixel image to 1.4 Mpixel than to upscale a fuzzy 307 Kpixel image.)

We are all familiar with this mode of speaking, not thinking. They wait to see what Steve Jobs says and recite it. It really has turned into a religion. I don't know why people would ridicule others for wanting to do more on their mac. It boggles my mind.
 
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We are all familiar with this mode of speaking, not thinking. They wait to see what Steve Jobs says and recite it. It really has turned into a religion. I don't know why people would ridicule others for wanting to do more on their mac. It boggles my mind.
Interesting.

Well I said it clearly in previous posts, and i repeat it here so you don't make that mistake again: i don't give 2.fux about BlewWray. It's nothing to do with Steve Jobs... nothing whatsoever. I think you <cough> gentlemen are so infatuated with that guy, it totally clouds your collective thought processes. Perhaps that's the "boggled" sensation you're experiencing.
 
Um... all those numbers only mean something when viewed in the living room on a 42-inch screen (or larger). The notion that Mac users should be getting all worked-up about having (or not having) such "impressive" technology jammed into a MacBook Pro with a 15-inch screen is hilarious!!!

Any more jokes? :D

[go buy a BD player, plug it in to your large-screen HDTV, and find something intelligent to watch.]

Im sure people would love to use the mac mini as a htpc. but no blu ray sort of craps on that idea, unless of course you use windows 7 instead
 
If you think the "1080p" with "5.1" sound Netflix gives you is anything compared to the 1080p, dolby true hd 7.1 sound blu-ray offers you need to put down the crack pipe.

More than a few people have tried to explain him the difference but it's pointless. some users have tried to explain bitrate to him but he ignores them and resorts to personal attacks.
 
The 5% or 6% have convinced me. I am not going to buy the 11" MBA because there is no Blu Ray player and I won't be able to watch a BD on my 11" screen. I would rather lug a huge 17" Dell/HP through airport security on my next business trip.


:rolleyes:

Like you would rather watch a 720x480 SD dvd instead of a 1920x1080 Blu Ray on our 27 inch mac..
 
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Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming.

Just because you repeat a lie a dozen times does not make it true.
 
:rolleyes:

Like you would rather watch a 720x480 SD dvd instead of a 1920x1080 Blu Ray on our 27 inch mac..

The answer is no. I prefer to watch BD movies on my Draper Onyx screen via my PS3 rather than watch on my 27" iMac. But most of the time I stream HD Netflix, iTunes, and Amazon on Demand. I was actually being sarcastic about not getting a 11" MBA because of no BD player. I wouldn't need a BD player for my MBA because "guess what?" Yep - HD Streaming!!
 
The answer is no. I prefer to watch BD movies on my Draper Onyx screen via my PS3 rather than watch on my 27" iMac. But most of the time I stream HD Netflix, iTunes, and Amazon on Demand. I was actually being sarcastic about not getting a 11" MBA because of no BD player. I wouldn't need a BD player for my MBA because "guess what?" Yep - HD Streaming!!

Sarcasm? People are these parts don't get sarcasm unless you use a blue font or add a :rolleyes:
 
Interesting.

Well I said it clearly in previous posts, and i repeat it here so you don't make that mistake again: i don't give 2.fux about BlewWray. It's nothing to do with Steve Jobs... nothing whatsoever. I think you <cough> gentlemen are so infatuated with that guy, it totally clouds your collective thought processes. Perhaps that's the "boggled" sensation you're experiencing.

You don't give '2.*** about BlewWray' then why the fux do you post in this thread??
Maybe you're so infatuated by SJ that you feel the need to jump in here and defend anything anyone says that remotely goes against what SJ says. You're hilarious. Every thread you post in is SJ is right you are wrong. Winbloze sucks.
 
The answer is no. I prefer to watch BD movies on my Draper Onyx screen via my PS3 rather than watch on my 27" iMac. But most of the time I stream HD Netflix, iTunes, and Amazon on Demand.

Apple must be doing worse than I thought if more people have screen and projector set ups than iMac and MacBooks.


The was actually being sarcastic about not getting a 11" MBA because of no BD player. I wouldn't need a BD player for my MBA because "guess what?" Yep - HD Streaming!!

I may be confused, how do you stream hidef when you are on a long car ride or on an airplane?

It is pathetic how violently some people will argue blindy in favor on not being given a choice. No one is saying macs should be required to have a blu ray drive, just that it should be an option. I am not sure if those arguing against having a choice are just blindly following Steve and obviously not thinking for them selves or are just so used to taking what they can get.
 
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