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Not at all. BD simply doesn't matter as much to some people. [seriously, i don't give 2.fux about bd... and apparently i'm not alone.] It's just that the proponents of BD are so much louder and persistent, despite their minority status.

I can't see any logic in your post at all. Just because it doesn't matter to some people (yourself included), doesn't mean that it shouldn't matter to the rest of us. In fact, your post appears to be in the same ilk as Mr Jobs dictatation of the way we all consume our digital media on his Mac's, rather than giving us the freedom to choose.

Apple do a really great job with most things, but they have nothing to provide as an alternative to BD, so withholding it from the masses (or minority of people that supposedly have louder voices) is just plain stupid to me.

The bit that frustrates me, is that Apple don't even provide an alternative to substantiate the argument that BD is not necessary.

Please don't try to suggest that there is an alternative to BD discs, streaming isn't an option for 1080p HD audio in this day and age...

The discussion about wether 1080p is necessary for hi-def and the many "720p is good enough for me" comments surprises me, but then many of you do appear to be discussing watching this content on portable devices, which I don't think is where HD content is headed, it's just not necessary. Surely not all of us should be thinking about restricting our viewing to iPads / iPhones / Laptops?
 
I can't see any logic in your post at all. Just because it doesn't matter to some people (yourself included), doesn't mean that it shouldn't matter to the rest of us.

I never said it shouldn't matter to anyone else... did I?

Just don't be calling people names if they aren't all worked-up about a lack of BD players/burners inside a Mac.... that's all.

I certainly won't object if it happens. Good luck, let me know how it turns out.
 
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Oh yes. An elitist idiot non-entity (Godwin) with five minutes of fame completely wipes out twelve years of German fascism and all their victims, plus sixty-plus years of American Big Business fascism and authoritarianism.

Not, never, and never again.

:apple:

Actually, that is HIS point, that bringing up Hitler is offensive. Do you even know how to read?
 
Actually, that is HIS point, that bringing up Hitler is offensive. Do you even know how to read?

Ah, I guess I did need a reminder why I had xbjllb on my ignore list. Thanks…

For the record, xbjllb, any rational person would look at a comparison between Hitler wiping out millions of people and Apple not including Bluray in their computers as being incredibly offensive, not to mention a sign of a significantly less than superior intellect. Seriously, how do you ever get from A -> B in that equation?

jW
 
Actually, that is HIS point, that bringing up Hitler is offensive. Do you even know how to read?

Actually, no I don't. Can't write or type, either.

Ah, I guess I did need a reminder why I had xbjllb on my ignore list. Thanks…

For the record, xbjllb, any rational person would look at a comparison between Hitler wiping out millions of people and Apple not including Bluray in their computers as being incredibly offensive, not to mention a sign of a significantly less than superior intellect. Seriously, how do you ever get from A -> B in that equation?

jW

Nice ignore list you got there.

I no longer waste time on people who will never understand the patently obvious.

:apple:
 
The dis ingenious thing about Apple is that they are STILL on the BD association board and yet they clearly have no plans to use BD at all . So why do they remain? To be destructive?

Pathetic
 
Blu ray = expensive = higher price on iMac / Mac pro / Macbook etc.
HDMI = somewhat cheap = no increase in price on iMac + use current blu ray player or PS3 = full 1080p blu ray = :D (happy people)
 
Here is some more proof that eventually Blu Ray will go the way of the dodo.

Verizon Tests A 10 Gbps Connection For Both Upload And Download. Want.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/verizon-10-gbps/

As the system architect points out at the end of the video, "this is the future."

You do know that is years alway and more than likely a decade away from really being affordable to the masses right?
For that speed to break 50% of the population it will take at least a decade after it pretty easy for population centers to get.
 
Here is some more proof that eventually Blu Ray will go the way of the dodo.

Verizon Tests A 10 Gbps Connection For Both Upload And Download. Want.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/verizon-10-gbps/

As the system architect points out at the end of the video, "this is the future."

Lots of things are "the future" but we all live in the present so while flying cars and vacations to the moon will be nice when they get here I'm not going to advocate putting off buying a car or spending a week relaxing in Hawaii until that day comes. Most of the people world wide don't have broadband at all and until that changes, until nearly every has access to fast, affordable, reliable broadband you aren't going to see the abandoning of physical media by people that target the mass market.


Lethal
 
Lots of things are "the future" but we all live in the present so while flying cars and vacations to the moon will be nice when they get here I'm not going to advocate putting off buying a car or spending a week relaxing in Hawaii until that day comes. Most of the people world wide don't have broadband at all and until that changes, until nearly every has access to fast, affordable, reliable broadband you aren't going to see the abandoning of physical media by people that target the mass market.


Lethal


Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming. This is just the beginning of the end for physical media. One day all BD movies will be available instantly on Netflix and I will no longer have to wait for them to arrive in the mail. I will just add them to my instant queue.
 
Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming. This is just the beginning of the end for physical media. One day all BD movies will be available instantly on Netflix and I will no longer have to wait for them to arrive in the mail. I will just add them to my instant queue.

But what about watching movies in minivans? We still have video tapes for the 2001 van we have and most vans and SUVs have DVD players Probably even blurays now. What about having a movie Collection at home for people who don't want to stream the latest flick but pop in the classic Disney toon in the smaller tv/DVD combo unit in the playroom? My god man, what about the children????
 
i think many are forgetting that steve jobs knows what is best for you. if he decides you dont need bluray, then guess what? you dont need bluray. :D

of course thats a sarcastic joke.

apple hasnt exactly cared about giving the customer choices. apple doesnt see the need to provide you with bluray video when you have itunes. why encourage the use of something that is in competition with itunes hd content?

i dont much care about lack of support as i do about "roadblocks" being placed to stop those that want bluray.
 
Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming. This is just the beginning of the end for physical media. One day all BD movies will be available instantly on Netflix and I will no longer have to wait for them to arrive in the mail. I will just add them to my instant queue.

As I have told you before, this lie isn't true because you repeat it. Streaming 1080p, 24 fps video with 5.1 surround sound at 5 mbps doesn't even come close to Blu-ray. It's not in the same league, not even in the same ballpark. It's not close by a mile.

Broadband to kill off Blu-ray quality isn't here. Not to mention all the services you mention are niches at best, Blu-ray is mass-market with higher than DVD penetration at the same point in their respective histories. Are you saying DVD never took off ? :rolleyes:

Seriously, again, Streaming and Blu-ray are not mutually exclusive. One doesn't have to lose for the other to win. This polarisation you keep pushing is completely idiotic I'm sorry to say. I stream movies off my cable provider's VOD service. I buy Blu-rays.
 
Arrogance

Once again Mr. Jobs demonstrates that he has absolutely no regard for what members of the Apple user community want.
 
Its closer than you think. There is already 1080p streaming with 5.1 sound on Netflix and Vudu Box HDX streams the same 24 fps as Blu Ray. Roku Box also offers 1080p streaming. This is just the beginning of the end for physical media. One day all BD movies will be available instantly on Netflix and I will no longer have to wait for them to arrive in the mail. I will just add them to my instant queue.
Fast, affordable, reliable broadband being available to the majority of the population of the world is closer than I think? Awesome. One day all BD movies... awesome. But, like I said, until the future becomes the present people need viable solutions that will work today not proposed solutions that might work at some yet to be determined time in the future.

I remember back in 99/00 people were ringing the death knell for CDs and major music labels because artists would, en masse, self distribute MP3s via their own websites. Well, it's nearly 2011 and the major labels are still around and CDs are still outselling legal downloads (although that is predicted to change in the next 2-3 years depending on which study you look at).


Lethal
 
so, Apple "really" is a leading technology computer. So, Apple "really" making cutting-aged computer. So, Apple "really" make the best computer in the world... I laungh at Apple
 
so, Apple "really" is a leading technology computer. So, Apple "really" making cutting-aged computer. So, Apple "really" make the best computer in the world... I laungh at Apple
You laugh at Apple? :D That's rich.
[let me guess... you're the CEO of Sony?]
 
Long term yes, physical media is going the way of the dinosaur. Sans records of course.

Short term, this is why I get frustrated with Apple Inc. Rather than letting users decide how they want to experience their products via hardware and software choices that all PC users get, Apple decides for us.

The majority of all my computing devices are Mac. I do still keep one burly PC around as a sort of personal server. Gaming, media management, etc.
 
apple hasnt exactly cared about giving the customer choices. apple doesnt see the need to provide you with bluray video when you have itunes. why encourage the use of something that is in competition with itunes hd content?

Lack of choice is why I can't find any use for Apple products in my home entertainment environment.
Their gadgets are way too limited format and interface-wise and iTunes offers far from state-of-the-art picture and sound quality.

Apple is turning into home entertainment's equivalent to fast food.
Convenience over quality seems to be the new mantra.
But unlike fast food, their stuff isn't even cheap...

I recently bought House Season 6 BD (1080p, DTS-HD) from amazon.co.uk incl. shipping to Switzerland for 44 bucks.
iTunes' "HD" version is 720p, dolby surround only (that's a VHS sound format...) and costs $59.99!!!!
 
iTunes' "HD" version is 720p, dolby surround only (that's a VHS sound format...) and costs $59.99!!!!

Just waiting for the rebuttal to your post. I expect something like this:

"But it's the future because I have fast broadband and am completely ignorant of anyone not having fast broadband. I also have no idea about quality and do what I'm told."
 
Just waiting for the rebuttal to your post. I expect something like this:

"But it's the future because I have fast broadband and am completely ignorant of anyone not having fast broadband. I also have no idea about quality and do what I'm told."

yeah the quality isnt there but they do sometimes have "deals" on itunes. you have to look for them but they can have seasons of shows for less than the dvd.

HOWEVER, you do have to deal with drm, which to me isnt worth it so i go dvd over it any day. i gladly pay the higher cost just not to deal with drm.

personally im not that big of a fan of digital downloads. they often dont give me any reason to go digital over physical. the only reason they CAN give is to offer it at a discount but as pointed out, they often dont. call me old fashion but if im going to pay the same price, i want the physical copy.
 
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