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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Getting nookie from blondes and killing VHS at the same time...SWEET!
I just wish someone had told me years ago, I would have done my part for the revolution
I guess bluray's chances really depend on what kind of virgin is used in the production of those discs
I just wish someone had told me years ago, I would have done my part for the revolution
I guess bluray's chances really depend on what kind of virgin is used in the production of those discs
The quick answer is quality. Imagine in your bank account analogy if you got paid in pesos if it was a wired transaction.
When you buy a hardcopy, you have the highest quality, and most importantly, you can make crappier portable copies of it from the hardcopy. Think of the hardcopy as a backup, a master.
I still buy CDs instead of downloads. Most downloads are poor quality and lossy (MP3/AAC). When I buy the CD, I can make a LOSSLESS copy which is what goes on my hard drive. The CD goes in the basement as a hard copy backup, and if I need lossy lower bitrate versions for an iPod then the LOSSLESS copy on my hard disk can be transcoded.
Further, when I have a hard copy, it can never be revoked by DRM or anything similar. Talk to the guy who was on here before saying his iTunes account was suspended because he bought a bogus gift card on eBay.
Sure, you CAN perfectly rip DVD/Blu-Rays but especially with the latter you're talking up to 50GB per movie. How much disc space do you want to waste on something you're only going to occasionally watch? And you're talking to a guy who has 6TB on a NAS. Movies are a waste of HD space, keep them on a disc for the few occasions you need them.
Getting nookie from blondes and killing VHS at the same time...SWEET!
I just wish someone had told me years ago, I would have done my part for the revolution
I guess bluray's chances really depend on what kind of virgin is used in the production of those discs
Well, there is virgin wool. Virgin plastic isn't all that much of a stretch, considering all of the above.
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There's a current car commercial where you're the mother and the dad with glasses and a pot belly, and I'm the kid looking at the $1000 train set and $3500 Les Paul guitar and you're trying to convince me that the POS you want me to buy is as good as what I need and want.
And I say "NO. It's NOT."
And JAT agrees with me and provides PROOF.
Actually, it is.
Is this the longest thread on Macrumors? I see it all the time.
Blu-Ray is not needed. The future is streaming and it will be comparable to Blu-Ray quality! Just wait!
Blu-Ray is not needed. The future is streaming and it will be comparable to Blu-Ray quality! Just wait!
this again?
BD Movies = 50mbit
current internet 1.5mbit to 25mbit (corporate connections go from 50-1gb)
can a 25mbit internet connection handle a 50mbit stream? no? streaming cannot replace bluray. until everyone has a 100mbit internet connection, streaming cannot replace bluray in quality or convenience.
BD Movies = 50mbit
current internet 1.5mbit to 25mbit (corporate connections go from 50-1gb)
can a 25mbit internet connection handle a 50mbit stream? no? streaming cannot replace bluray. until everyone has a 100mbit internet connection, streaming cannot replace bluray in quality or convenience.
Wait seems to be an odd answer when a good majority of broadband users in the US are barely at 20mbits. The lucky FIOS users barely scratch the surface on the percentage scale. Here in tech savvy Utah, there's hardly any ISPs that offer anything above 40mbits and it's all over $150 a month.
$150 a month could buy a few Blu-rays.
The future may no be streaming but until the future comes we'll have to live in the present and in the present fast enough, affordable, 'always on' broadband is a rare bird.
Lethal
SSDs will do this more then HDDs
the exact same thing can be said for SSDs though, and from what ive seen the SSDs are likely to do this more often then HDDs.
but whatever.
For me part of the attraction to solid state media is that I deal with a lot of shipping and sneaker netting of HDDs so the data is probably in an above average amount of peril compared to drives that barely, if ever, move. I also look at a lot of tech from a production and/or post production perspective and solid state media, as a recording medium, can absorb abuse and work in situations that HDDs and tape stumble in.
Lethal
Lethal
Seriously, what problems have you seen?
Please explain - and personal anecdotes are fine. Seriously.
Personally, I've found spinning hard drives to be a "big bag of hurt", and keep important data on at least 3 sets of hard drives in at least two physical locations. (My Windows Home Server filestore is on a mirrored volume, backed up to a RAID-5 volume, and remotely mirrored to a volume at the office. That's roughly 5 copies of each file.)
I have several SSD drives (including an SSD blade drive on an Asus netbook from years before Apple started to use SSD blades) - and haven't had any problems yet. (BTW, I'm not using Apple OSX - I'm using another operating system that has full TRIM support for my SSDs....)
Please explain - and personal anecdotes are fine. Seriously.
Personally, I've found spinning hard drives to be a "big bag of hurt", and keep important data on at least 3 sets of hard drives in at least two physical locations. (My Windows Home Server filestore is on a mirrored volume, backed up to a RAID-5 volume, and remotely mirrored to a volume at the office. That's roughly 5 copies of each file.)
I have several SSD drives (including an SSD blade drive on an Asus netbook from years before Apple started to use SSD blades) - and haven't had any problems yet. (BTW, I'm not using Apple OSX - I'm using another operating system that has full TRIM support for my SSDs....)
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Wait!?!? But how long? A minute? An hour? Years? A decade?
Observing my internet connection going less reliably on a daily basis due to growing bandwidth demands, I wouldn't expect download quality to reach BluRay levels before another 6 years.
Why killing time by watching crappy downloads for another half a decade, if you can enjoy gorgeous 1080p quality and DTS HD multi-channel sound from old-fashioned BluRay discs RIGHT NOW?
By the way, this so-called dead technology is still achieving growth rates of 59% in 2009 and 85% in 2010 through October for stand alone BD players, and a 60% increase in disc production.
Not to mention that new releases on BD shipped from UK to my door in Switzerland usually cost less than you guys have to pay for the same title on SD dvd or ITS HD in the U.S.!
If you cannot afford a state-of-the-art medium like BluRay over there, stop blaming the technology - blame your greedy studios and distributors who are ripping you off!
im 10000% sure the majority of people cannot afford that as well as not having that available in their community
$100+ per month + cost of renting + some type of device to play those rented streamed movies (or HTPC)
That's a great deal for that speed. Not here in my area yet ($99.99 for 50mbps here in Utah is the fastest we have)
Blu-ray is available everywhere and 200$ per month is quite a bit of movies, and 250$ installation pays for your player, and then some. Not quite the NOW you were getting at ...
Not to mention getting movies online legally will set you back about the same price as the Blu-ray itself (from Apple), so in the end, you're better off just going to Best-buy for your movie entertainment.
I missed that part about the $250 install. Ouch! Not such a good deal after all.
In time it will be as affordable as basic broadband. Much quicker than people anticipate. It's only the end of 2010 and the technology to stream BD quality is here - Roku, Vudu-HDX, FIOS, and Comcast 105Mbps. It may not be affordable to everyone right now, but it is available. This is why BD will lose out to streaming eventually.
Isn't that what they said about music and cd's? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still buy cd's, even after the advent of iTunes. Right?
Ralphs, a CA grocery store chain, is selling the LG BD530 Blu-ray player near the check-out lanes for $80.00.
'in time' and 'eventually' are the key words there. But, and I feel like a broken record here, for the vast majority of people in the world *today* those aren't options. So, yeah, someone can wait X number of years to watch movies until that tech becomes more common place or they can spend less than $100 on a Blu-ray player right now and enjoy movies until the next big thing comes around and becomes affordable. Or, if they have access to 'regular' broadband they can do a bit of both. It's not like these are mutually exclusive technologies.
Not only can you still by CD's but CD's still out perform downloads in terms of sales (although this is projected to change within the next 1-3yrs depending on who you ask) and the growth of digital downloads is slowing down.
Lethal
Gotcha. I hadn't found all the related posts.
No. Probably, a 50Mb connection cannot handle a 50Mb stream, because that would be cable, and cable is not really what it says, and is subject to neighborhood slowdown. For instance, my current setup is marketed as 20Mb, but is really "up to 20". After the first 10MB of a download, it drops to 16Mb bandwidth. I do get a solid 16Mb speed from major websites like Apple or Adobe, so I haven't noticed any neighborhood issues for me, personally.
I believe the point is about un-warned failure. It is certainly more likely that a HDD will provide some warning of impending doom than an SSD.
LOL! Not here, it ain't. I find it interesting that Google can't find mention of this on Comcast's websites, only in blogs.
I am probably switching back to DSL after a few months of playing with 16Mb cable. I trust the DSL 40Mb to offer more consistent speed than the "up to 50Mb" cable, plus it is far cheaper after intro pricing. $50/month with 2 year contract for the DSL, no bundling required, vs over $100 for the 50Mb cable.
Eventually?!?
Guess I shouldn't buy a car, because the brakes will wear out one day.
Guess I shouldn't eat today, cause I'm just gonna take a piss later, anyway.
And the Netflix folks....they send me Blurays. AND I stream from them. Didja know that?
Where do all of these FIOS users live? Obviously where I don't. Would love to have a screaming fast connection for under $100 a month.
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