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So, approaching death. Another way of saying 'in the future', 'eventually', 'one day'...
I'd like to sign up for this, too. I'm in Utah and the only Verizon we have here is cell phone service. Any idea when we get FIOS like you have where you live?
You really don't get it. Some people get more satisfaction from realization that they use Apple products than they do from watching quality video
That isn't what bothers me. There will always be idiots on the planet.
What bothers me is that they insist on populating these forums and arguing with people who know far more and far better than they do. Whether they're paid by Apple to do it or not.
People who defend the indefensible are reprehensible.
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The day when BD is cheaper than DVD is approaching....
This week's Fry's BD laptop deal:
$799.99 - http://www.frys.com/product/6391881
So, for $200 more at Apple you can get:
10X BD writer w/ LightScribe - $89.95
http://www.centralcomputers.com/com...ewriter-int-satabl-wh10ls30k-cddlg-wh10ls.htm
(an 8X w/o LightScribe for $79.99)
The day when BD is cheaper than DVD is approaching....
This week's Fry's BD laptop deal:
$799.99 - http://www.frys.com/product/6391881
- Core i5-460M
- 16" LED backlit display
- 4 GiB DDR3 (8 GiB max)
- 500 GB drive
- BD-ROM/DVD-DL
- Webcam
- 802.11a/g/n, 4G WiMax
- ExpressCard slot, SDXC/MS/xD slot
- Ports: VGA/HDMI, 4 USB 2, 1 eSATA (shared with 1 USB), RJ45
- Battery 4 1/2 hours (MobileMark Productivity 2007)
- WinDVD BD player
- Harmon/Kardon speakers
- Multi-touch touchpad
So, for $200 more at Apple you can get:
- Core 2 Duo
- 2 GiB RAM (max 4GiB)
- 250 GB Drive
- DVD-DL
- twice the battery life
- a magnetic power cord that often burns and arcs
- 13" LED backlit display
- ports - Mini DP that needs dongles to connect to anything non-Apple,
- 2 USB 2 ports, no eSATA
- RJ45 network
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Ten years from now people will say "Steve Jobs, rest his soul, was right about downloads vs. optical".
For nine years, though, people will curse him.
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I'm willing to bet it will take longer than that.
Not that anyone particularly cares about down under, but sometime in the next 11 years, 93% of our pop will have fibre (plans of 12Mbps to 1Gbps). Streaming Blu-Ray quality will take a fast, steady fibre connection.
By the time your ten years have passed, optical will have moved on from 1080p and be 1440p or 2XXXp or whatever the new HD standard is. 100Mbps in real-world use won't be able to stream the full quality (remembering audio will improve too).
I think there will always be some form of personal physical media, unless we can harness read/write to the human brain.
at least, for australians anyway. we have fibre plans for the country - but its still a long way away. then costs and data charges come into it still.
but its working for them as is, so i dont see them changing anytime soon.
@iEdd - i think it will bypass 1440p, dont you? thats not much of an improvement at all. Super-Hi Res is somewhere in the works (4x 1080p).
Too many people don't realize the importance of "steady".
They pay for a link advertised as "up to 20 Mbps", and expect to stream a 16 Mbps feed without hiccups.
Maybe at 03:00, when the rest of their town and neighborhood is asleep....
ISPs and carriers oversubscribe their lines, though, so that your chance of running at an average of 16 Mbps at 20:00 is zero. (And BD runs at an average of up to 40-50 Mbps....)
thats assuming cable though. many people have DSL, and whilst there are additonal provlems with DSL, the speeds are quite often "fairly" constant - moreso then cable anyway!
Right - I have friends with "up to 20 Mbps" cable complaining about busy times.
My "1.7 Mbps DSL" seldom drops below 1.5 Mbps (do I put a "happy" smiley or a "mad" smiley here?
)You're right, though, to point out that your chance of getting 90% of your advertised bandwidth on a DSL line is higher than your chance of getting 50% of the advertised bandwidtion on cable.
Bring on FIOS (fibre to the house) or U-Verse (fibre to the pole) !!!
Right - I have friends with "up to 20 Mbps" cable complaining about busy times.
My "1.7 Mbps DSL" seldom drops below 1.5 Mbps (do I put a "happy" smiley or a "mad" smiley here?
im not very font of the "shared neighbour" cable idea. doesnt allow reliability
i normally capitalise the B/b - MB/s = bytes, mb/s = bits. im assuming you mean 1.7mbyte/s ? im very close to the exchange, within 1km - so i hit about 2.2MB/s max.
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im not very font of the "shared neighbour" cable idea. doesnt allow reliability
i normally capitalise the B/b - MB/s = bytes, mb/s = bytes. im assuming you mean 1.7mbyte/s ? im very close to the exchange, within 1km - so i hit about 2.2MB/s max.
You have some typos - "B" is bytes, "b" is bits.
I used "b" - bits, I have a one point seven mega bits per second DSL link. (and "mega" is 10^6). I'm about 2.7 km from the switching station. (Odd, since it's less than 1.3 km walking from my house to the telephone office, but the wire routing is much longer.)
Good news, though, is that U-Verse is coming soon.
im not very font of the "shared neighbour" cable idea. doesnt allow reliability
Although I'm not too fond of the way cable works("shared neighbor") I find that it isn't too big of an issue. I have a 10Mbit plan(second fastest in my area, fastest is 15). During busy times I have never dropped below 8.5Mbit. In fact there have been a few times speedtest has come back reading 12 Mbit...
i really messed that up didnt i! trying to multitask
im on 20mbit, which turns out to be about 2.2MB/s real world.
its unfortunate that you are on 1.7mb/s
that must really suck!
its unfortunate that you are on 1.7mb/s
...but it's better than 99% of the people on the planet, so I can deal.
I just makes me annoyed when someone says "well I have 100 Mbps FIOS, BD is dead".
Not because I personally don't have 100 Mbps FIOS, but because that person is so stupid as to project his personal situation planet-wide. So stupid.
The US plan for national broadband (that would be 4 mbps in the USA) kind of faded away to nothing earlier this year. It's "too expensive." Leave it to the US to even think of a plan that would take years to implement and still be decades behind modern tech.
Ugh.
Yes, 100 times slower than USB 2 would be "too expensive". Instead, let's continue to subsidize big oil and other planet-killing enterprises.
I'd like to sign up for this, too. I'm in Utah and the only Verizon we have here is cell phone service. Any idea when we get FIOS like you have where you live?
I personally do not have FIOS or Comcast 105Mbps. I do not require it at this point because I have no speed issues with my Comcast business class service. It works and its fast. I have no issues gaming, I run web servers, and stream Netflix and Apple TV. My point is that the technology is here to provide BD quality streams. Thus the beginning of the end for BD.
You think your ISP's uplinks are capable of sustaining all its subscriber base's advertised speed ? You're getting sucked in by marketing. Cable and DSL are both shared. In DSL, the only dedicated part you have is the last mile, which for ISPs, is usually the one where it's easiest to provide the most bandwidth anyhow.
Let's say your DSL provider has 50,000 customers. All of them have 5 mbps service. To give them "dedicated" access to the Internet, they would require over 250,000 mbps as an uplink, or 250 gbps. Do you know how much that would cost them ? Forget it, you're probably sharing 10-20 gbps to the outside world with the rest of the subscribers.
And they can't garantee bandwidth outside their network either. You think level3 is going to update it's bandwidth all around their backbone and peer links the minute your ISP subscribes someone ? Sprint will also do the same ?
The Internet and networks in general are shared by the very design. The "Cable vs DSL, shared vs dedicated" thing is simply marketing from the phone companies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio
If you want to pay for premium business connections, you can reduce the contention ratios. OTOH, if you go for a cheap and nasty ISP, they are probably saving costs by using high ratios (eg 50:1).
I'm not entirely sure of what the typical contention ratio of coax cable vs ADSL vs Fibre is though...
If you want to pay for premium business connections, you can reduce the contention ratios. OTOH, if you go for a cheap and nasty ISP, they are probably saving costs by using high ratios (eg 50:1).
I'm not entirely sure of what the typical contention ratio of coax cable vs ADSL vs Fibre is though...
you assume i live in the US? i do not. i am with the largest telephony company in australia - who also happen to own basically all the central hubs within australia. trust me, they can handle it
i talk **** about my ISP because they are extremely expensive, but they provide a brilliant service and are well worth it.i do not get sucked into marketing, otherwise id have a few PCs and an iphone by now
you assume i live in the US? i do not. i am with the largest telephony company in australia - who also happen to own basically all the central hubs within australia. trust me, they can handle it
Dude, there's contention ratios wherever you live; not just USA.
BigPond are an average ISP at premium prices. You're bandwidth is definitely shared.
omg. do you seriously think im that dumb? like seriously? honestly? my god...
all i know is whenever i download, be it at 3am or peak hour (~9pm) ill always get the same speed from my end, the servers may not - but i do.
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