Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

Status
Not open for further replies.
mpaul said:
Apple will probably never go down, but it will for sure lose some customers.
Those people that once enjoyed the Mac platform for its semplicity, and all they cared about was not the Mac Appstore/iTunes, nor even useless expensive speedbumps or the Facetime HD, will simply get bored and start look elsewhere for other options.
I don't know about you. But to me, it was a different thing paying $2500 for a "17 Macbook Pro back in 2007 then now. At least i knew that for 3 yrs or so, i had a performant machine that won't had become obsolete in a year.
Changing my Mac workstation every year, to have the ThunderBolt or the latest "Made in Cupertino" feature is not my cup of tea, sorry.
Click to expand...

I would still say it is better than the Windows PC alternative. Been there, and will never do that again. My C2D 2009 27" iMac (my first Mac) is still going strong. Its the best performing desktop I have owned. Then again that's not saying much when all I have to compare against are the Windows PC's of my past.
 
wonderspark said:
I create and burn it, and I want to play it back, so I'm in the same breed. We can already burn it just fine. Playback is the only issue.
543.jpg
Click to expand...

+1:apple:
 
Optical media is finished. I still use it of course, but nowhere near as much as I used to, and with flash storage becoming far more mainstream and cheaper, it is obviously the way forward.
 
chesbak said:
I think that disks will soon become obsolete.
Click to expand...

HacKage said:
Optical media is finished. I still use it of course, but nowhere near as much as I used to, and with flash storage becoming far more mainstream and cheaper, it is obviously the way forward.
Click to expand...

It's already been covered in this thread, but optical media is cheap and universal. Alternatives like flash storage are still several times more expensive than a disc and probably will be for a long, long time.
 
mpaul said:
Apple will probably never go down, but it will for sure lose some customers.
Those people that once enjoyed the Mac platform for its semplicity, and all they cared about was not the Mac Appstore/iTunes, nor even useless expensive speedbumps or the Facetime HD, will simply get bored and start look elsewhere for other options.
I don't know about you. But to me, it was a different thing paying $2500 for a "17 Macbook Pro back in 2007 then now. At least i knew that for 3 yrs or so, i had a performant machine that won't had become obsolete in a year.
Changing my Mac workstation every year, to have the ThunderBolt or the latest "Made in Cupertino" feature is not my cup of tea, sorry.
Click to expand...

Is your frustration that the MBP cost so much and is therefore not economically feasible to replace often?
Or that the technology keeps changing?

If the former, true, a Wintel computer is cheaper, but a decent 17" Wintel would likely be at least $1000, and that is still a decent chunk of change to spend on a computer every 9 months (to keep up with the latest tech).

If it's the latter, well, that seems unfair. The general understanding I've had with technology is that it's obsolete the moment you buy it. This all changes very fast and the only way to keep up is to have relatively unlimited funds to buy the latest the moment it comes out. There are new processors and new technologies often less than every 12 months, so Wintel computers are outdated just as quickly (more or less).

Cheers.

Cheers.
 
xbjllb said:
What part of BUBBLE do you not understand? Some people just refuse to see a Bubble UNTIL it pops.
Click to expand...

Could you be a little more accurate this time around? At least some where close to the target. Your prediction back on January 22, 2009 that Apple would turn into apple sauce missed the mark by at least a mile. :eek:

xbjllb said:
You go right ahead and be one of those people.

:apple:
Click to expand...

I am glad I have your permission to use the best working machines.
 
jegbook said:
Is your frustration that the MBP cost so much and is therefore not economically feasible to replace often?
Or that the technology keeps changing?

If the former, true, a Wintel computer is cheaper, but a decent 17" Wintel would likely be at least $1000, and that is still a decent chunk of change to spend on a computer every 9 months (to keep up with the latest tech).

If it's the latter, well, that seems unfair. The general understanding I've had with technology is that it's obsolete the moment you buy it. This all changes very fast and the only way to keep up is to have relatively unlimited funds to buy the latest the moment it comes out. There are new processors and new technologies often less than every 12 months, so Wintel computers are outdated just as quickly (more or less).

Cheers.

Cheers.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but at least with the same price of a "17 Macbook Pro i can build myself a powerful workstation, upgrading chipset, HDD's and any other component that might fail. And i can have FAR more choices in terms of hardware to choose from and be cool for at least 4 years.
I'm not frustrated because i can't change a Mac every year, but i just don't see any reason to stay on board with Apple anymore. That's all. FCS doesn't look promising anymore, so is OSX and its features. Period.
 
When 50 GB worth of flash storage capacity costs $15.99, that's when I'll believe discs are dead.

Mark
 
DoFoT9 said:
$150 is the cheapest 64GB i can find at my local stores over here in australia. its rather annoying, the prices havent moved (that) much for a good 6 months! same with mechanical drives.
Click to expand...

you guys are getting JACKED

500GB 7200RPM is $50

60-64GB SSD's are around $100-$150

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?
Submit=ENE&N=100008120%20600038477&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
 
GregAndonian said:
If that's their attitude, they'll eventually be replaced by a new underdog company that DOES listen.
Click to expand...

The sooner the better.

mpaul said:
Apple will probably never go down, but it will for sure lose some customers.
Those people that once enjoyed the Mac platform for its semplicity, and all they cared about was not the Mac Appstore/iTunes, nor even useless expensive speedbumps or the Facetime HD, will simply get bored and start look elsewhere for other options.
I don't know about you. But to me, it was a different thing paying $2500 for a "17 Macbook Pro back in 2007 then now. At least i knew that for 3 yrs or so, i had a performant machine that won't had become obsolete in a year.
Changing my Mac workstation every year, to have the ThunderBolt or the latest "Made in Cupertino" feature is not my cup of tea, sorry.
Click to expand...

Mine either.

chesbak said:
I think that disks will soon become obsolete.
Click to expand...

You are wrong.

HacKage said:
Optical media is finished. I still use it of course, but nowhere near as much as I used to, and with flash storage becoming far more mainstream and cheaper, it is obviously the way forward.
Click to expand...

You are wrong.

janstett said:
It's already been covered in this thread, but optical media is cheap and universal. Alternatives like flash storage are still several times more expensive than a disc and probably will be for a long, long time.
Click to expand...

You are correct.

wonderspark said:
You gotta love it when people say discs are dead, and that they still use them - - especially in the same sentence.
Click to expand...

Nailed 'em.

linux2mac said:
Could you be a little more accurate this time around? At least some where close to the target. Your prediction back on January 22, 2009 that Apple would turn into apple sauce missed the mark by at least a mile. :eek:



I am glad I have your permission to use the best working machines.
Click to expand...

You are correct. I should have said Jobs, not Apple.

Except for Blu-ray, we agree. But for not much longer.

When I sell my 2.93 Twelvecore, I am sure I can count on you to pay full price for it. :rolleyes:

:apple:
 
I guess there's two divergent crowds on this.

I haven't cross-referenced who's doing the posting, but there's a decent chunk of the Apple laptop owners that want Apple to ditch the optical drive entirely arguing "I never use optical media! It's dead! Stop taking up space with the optical drive!"

And then folks here that argue that optical media is around to stay.

Interesting.

I definitely think optical media is on it's way out. Just not sure of the time frame. In a decade I would think optical media will be largely irrelevant. It was just a couple years ago that any SSD was really expensive. And now they are standard on some computers and sufficient sizes are reasonably priced. In just a couple years.

And Netflix's stock has risen from $10/share to over $200/share in the past few years. Is that due to DVD rentals? I'm thinking not. They're stock started skyrocketing when their service started to gain traction as a streaming service. Netflix was very smart to look forward in business models to anticipate the way the world is moving.

Rumors have it that the MBPs will have a major redesign next year. Perhaps Apple will be the first to push towards phasing out the optical drive (as they phased out floppy, pushed firewire, display port, and others). As with everything, and especially everything Apple, I reckon this kind of move would be met with equally vocal cheers and jeers from the masses.

Lastly, it's saddening to see such inhospitable conduct from folks. I'm all for lively debate, but there's no need for name calling and derisive and dismissive speech. Agree, disagree, and agree to disagree. A little maturity would be nice.
Would you treat another so poorly to her/his face? I hope not. A little civility can go a long way.
 
linux2mac said:
No thanks. I am waiting for Thunderbolt equipped Mac Mini's. Daisy chained together they will run circles around your Mac Pro. And who said Apple doesn't care about creative pros and enterprise? ROFLMAO

http://www.cringely.com/2011/02/attack-of-the-minis/
Click to expand...

Whew, that setup work not work - at all - for much of the stuff that I do. If Apple expects us to replace a big pickup truck with 6 tuk-tuks, I'll pass, thank you.
 
Tailpike1153 said:
I wonder what some research school could do with a cluster of 100 mac minis. That would be one nice render farm.
Click to expand...

I know right.

When I moved into my new office, the moving guy was out of breath carrying my old Dell Powerdge 1600SC. He coudln't believe what a heavy beast that thing was. I replaced it 4 months ago with a 2010 Mac Mini Server and couldn't be happier. That little guy is running 2 production VM's and one test VM. It blows away my Dell and only weighs a few pounds. Now imagine the power of a Mini multiplied by 100 like you mentioned? WOW!
 
linux2mac said:
I know right.

When I moved into my new office, the moving guy was out of breath carrying my old Dell Powerdge 1600SC. He coudln't believe what a heavy beast that thing was. I replaced it 4 months ago with a 2010 Mac Mini Server and couldn't be happier. That little guy is running 2 production VM's and one test VM. It blows away my Dell and only weighs a few pounds. Now imagine the power of a Mini multiplied by 100 like you mentioned? WOW!
Click to expand...
For small or non-mission critical setups a cluster of mini's, in theory, looks appealing. But just the lack of redundancy and wired-in-series nature of the setup means it's just an accident waiting to happen and that makes it unlikely to be a viable server alternative. I mean, if you have 100 Mini's daisy chained together and one of them fails (PSU dies, HDD crash, etc.,) that means the whole thing goes down. In a home office/small office situation that might not be a big deal. In a large production environment or in an environment where time is of the essence uptime is valuable and people will pay more to have a more reliable, more robust system.


Lethal
 
linux2mac said:
No thanks. I am waiting for Thunderbolt equipped Mac Mini's. Daisy chained together they will run circles around your Mac Pro. And who said Apple doesn't care about creative pros and enterprise? ROFLMAO

http://www.cringely.com/2011/02/attack-of-the-minis/
Click to expand...

Not everything can be done as a grid - there are some situations where you need a big frigging 'web tone switch' to quote Scott McNealy - a big manly computer with 32 CPUs and 512 threads which is where I'd say Apple will probably offer cloud computing to creative types so that they can shunt their projects off to the cloud to get processed the yank it back down to their workstation once completed. There is a company already doing it already using Azure so it can be done - it is a matter of when rather than if. Why tie millions up in a data centre when you can rent the capacity when you need it and only when you use it?

As for me, I'm waiting for the iMac and second MacBook Pro refresh towards the end of this year - both with Thunderbolt and hopefully more devices out there supporting it :D
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back