Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

[toke lahti]

Yep, "as I've said before, disc is dead." (Erica Sadun - TUAW)
Mini vs Pro: consumer Macs grow up
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/20/mini-vs-pro-consumer-macs-grow-up/

Repeating "dead" does not kill it.
Bd will be market king in 2014.
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/report-blu-ray-top-50-video-sales-2014-24406
Reality distortion field is mandatory to believe optical disc or bd is dead.
Sadly Apple operates in that field.
Still, most of the countries on this planet does not have any movies to rent or "buy" in iTunes at whatever bad or "good enough" quality.

 

[janstett]

Then anyone would be free to write a Blu-ray player for OS X and charge for it.

It's already here in case you missed it.

http://www.macblurayplayer.com/

It's very rough around the edges but they've made improvements to it already. I gave them my $39. I also finally installed a BD burner in my Mac Pro. Looks good on a 30" cinema display, I'll try my uMBP on my plasma later, the only piece missing is the multichannel audio which the new mini may or may not handle.

Anybody with an HDMI Mac tried this with the Mac Blu-Ray player? I'm wondering if it can bistream HD audio.

 

[jegbook]

Too many words. Still no idea for how to get anything approaching BluRay quality online. Do you really not watch movies on BluRay? You should try some day. Apple is good, good high quality hardware is better (and you can not get it from Apple).

I really do not watch movies on BluRay. I even have a 1080p TV (which turns out to have been a silly purchase, 720p would have been fine).

However, I'm not going to rebuy the DVDs I own on BluRay. And I can't replace my current DVD player with an equivalent BluRay player: an all-in-one 5 disc changer 2.0 Stereo mini system which is the "hub" of our "home theater".

I live in a 560 sq ft condo with my girlfriend and space is at a premium. I have no interest in 7.1, 5.1, or even 2.1 sound (a sub-woofer would drive neighbors crazy).

We have a Roku and laptops and no cable TV and bunny ears. What we can't stream we get through Netflix DVD or borrow from friends.

I can't see ever getting a BluRay player. It will be a technology I skip over, I reckon. In a few fears physical media will probably be irrelevant for the majority of folks. The rest may get screwed a bit, true.

The one thing I do miss about streaming movies is the special features. I hope those features become more common for streaming content.

Enjoy your entertainment, all.
Cheers.

 

[maclaptop]

Perhaps it's Apple Tax that discourages some to shy away from the well accepted fact that two technologies can thrive in an open market. After spending their money on Apple products, some may simply not be able to afford anything else. Yet one things for certain, the very length of this thread reveals they're many that wish they could.

 

[JAT]

I live in a major metropolitan area that has had 100+ Mbps speeds for two years.

For $200+/month. That's outside of consumer usefulness. A full DirecTV package is cheaper, and has pretty good HD available. Certainly enough to keep busy watching it.

Too many words. Still no idea for how to get anything approaching BluRay quality online. Do you really not watch movies on BluRay? You should try some day. Apple is good, good high quality hardware is better (and you can not get it from Apple).

I know how to get exactly Bluray quality online. Usually don't need to, though.

I'm starting to think Apple should be investigated for antitrust -- didn't they scream bloody murder when Microsoft rammed IE down everybody's throats? Well now Apple is ramming iTunes down everybody's throats. Apple has a bigger market cap than MSFT, so have at it DOJ! Split iTunes into a separate company..

Market cap, yes....market share, no. Microsoft waited until it had over 80% of all workstations on the planet running Windows, then forced IE onto the users. That's when govts screamed bloody murder.

 

[lilo777]

Engadget has just reported that...

20th Century Fox will start offering digital downloads for Android devices to those who purchase Blu-Ray disks. Obviously this has nothing to do with OS/X but the fact that only Android (and not iOS) is mentioned in the report is interesting.

 

[nstrm]

ta da

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_...to-os-x/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

"... .Despite the controversies and frustrations with Apple's support of Blu-ray, native playback is finally here. Recently, developer Macgo released a new media player aptly named Mac Blu Ray Player, which is the first to bring full Blu-ray playback support to OS X. All you need to get Blu-ray up and running is the following:
A Blu-ray drive, which can either be internal (likely easier and cheaper for Mac Pro systems), or external. These can be purchased at places like Other World Computing or NewEgg
Mac Blu Ray Player software, which can be downloaded from the Macgo Web site.


Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20077240-263/blu-ray-playback-comes-to-os-x/#ixzz1RMQD54Jf"

OK people, my first post on this forum. Quick question. If I download this and buy external BR player. Will it run under Lion? Another question is let's say I'm buying LG external Blu Ray player. If I connect to my MBP it will not be recognized, right? So how am I hoing to download drivers for this, when os X doesn't knot wtf blu-ray is.
Easy way. If I buy any external BR player, download this Mac Blu-Ray player and connect BR to my MBP (with OS lion) WILL IT WORK?

 

[JAT]

OK people, my first post on this forum. Quick question. If I download this and buy external BR player. Will it run under Lion? Another question is let's say I'm buying LG external Blu Ray player. If I connect to my MBP it will not be recognized, right? So how am I hoing to download drivers for this, when os X doesn't knot wtf blu-ray is.
Easy way. If I buy any external BR player, download this Mac Blu-Ray player and connect BR to my MBP (with OS lion) WILL IT WORK?

Pretty sure that's a question for the author of the software. Should be a pretty common question this week.

 

[LoganT]

20th Century Fox will start offering digital downloads for Android devices to those who purchase Blu-Ray disks. Obviously this has nothing to do with OS/X but the fact that only Android (and not iOS) is mentioned in the report is interesting.

Not really. Blu-Ray disks have had a download code for a version on iTunes for a while now.

 

[takao]

Not really. Blu-Ray disks have had a download code for a version on iTunes for a while now.

actually that is heavily dependent on region of the blu ray,
around here digital copies are only provided on first initial (expensive) releases and then only for a few selected movies and then many are windows only

the most annoying thing with digital copies is that the studios don't even bother to put the requirments on the movie boxes so you don't even know wether you need a windows box or itunes

a typical oversight of the industry not to agree on a standard and making everybodies life easier

 

[janstett]

OK people, my first post on this forum. Quick question. If I download this and buy external BR player. Will it run under Lion? Another question is let's say I'm buying LG external Blu Ray player. If I connect to my MBP it will not be recognized, right? So how am I hoing to download drivers for this, when os X doesn't knot wtf blu-ray is.
Easy way. If I buy any external BR player, download this Mac Blu-Ray player and connect BR to my MBP (with OS lion) WILL IT WORK?

Yes, it will work. I have played movies with an external drive I bought from OWC and Lion.

OSX has been able to recognize an external Blu-Ray drive (or even internal, on Mac Pros) for quite some time. They show up in system profiler just fine, the burn capabilities show up just fine, read discs just fine, and Toast can burn the discs. The only piece missing has been Apple making DVDPlayer.app work with it. Now with www.macblurayplayer.com that missing piece is here courtesy of a third party.

The only thing I don't know about is if you have an HDMI Mac that can pass multichannel audio (only the newer Mac Minis can) will it bitstream HD audio.

 

[janstett]

Mac Mini may be too spare

CNet - Mac Mini may be too spare

Apple took away the Mac Mini's optical drive in a forward-looking design move that may leave present-day entertainment fans scratching their heads. Is it smart or alienating?

 

[toke lahti]

the most annoying thing with digital copies is that the studios don't even bother to put the requirments on the movie boxes so you don't even know wether you need a windows box or itunes

In Nordic region WB offers digitalCopy only for windows.
I'm not sure why they offer it for mac in GB but not here.
Hard to think that would cost any more.
So only to cut expenses on the support side?
("I'm used to things 'just work' without reading any instructions with my mac, so how do I proceed?")

 

[KnightWRX]

It's already here in case you missed it.

http://www.macblurayplayer.com/

You gave those people 39$ for essentially MakeMKV ?

You know you could have had the same for free right ?

That's not a proper, licensed blu-ray player, and their Engrish site is just a big fail. I hope you used a throw away credit card.

 

[cube]

You gave those people 39$ for essentially MakeMKV ?

You know you could have had the same for free right ?

That's not a proper, licensed blu-ray player, and their Engrish site is just a big fail. I hope you used a throw away credit card.

That "Mac Blu Ray player" requires you to be online to work.

 

[KnightWRX]

That "Mac Blu Ray player" requires you to be online to work.

Yes, because they lack a proper AACS implementation, because they aren't a licensed blu-ray player, but most probably a chinese organisation (see their very rough english, and "founded in 2005, 10 years in the industry" quips) using VLC and Mongoose as a sort of MakeMKV style streaming with online only decryption. I read their "FAQ".

Seriously, paying 39$ is the real scam here. If you're going to go the "unlicensed" route, just get MakeMKV and stream to VLC.

 

[nstrm]

Yes, it will work. I have played movies with an external drive I bought from OWC and Lion.

OSX has been able to recognize an external Blu-Ray drive (or even internal, on Mac Pros) for quite some time. They show up in system profiler just fine, the burn capabilities show up just fine, read discs just fine, and Toast can burn the discs. The only piece missing has been Apple making DVDPlayer.app work with it. Now with www.macblurayplayer.com that missing piece is here courtesy of a third party.

The only thing I don't know about is if you have an HDMI Mac that can pass multichannel audio (only the newer Mac Minis can) will it bitstream HD audio.

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even internal... can you advise me one? anything that would fit 13" unibody?

 

[nstrm]

even internal... can you advise me one? anything that would fit 13" unibody?

my bad, you said mac pro, i got excited that I can fit blu-ray into my unibody and there you go. nevermind. so if I had external BR-D, I can watch them in makeMKV? like ..life, without converting them or what?

 

[xbjllb]

Yes, because they lack a proper AACS implementation, because they aren't a licensed blu-ray player, but most probably a chinese organisation (see their very rough english, and "founded in 2005, 10 years in the industry" quips) using VLC and Mongoose as a sort of MakeMKV style streaming with online only decryption. I read their "FAQ".

Seriously, paying 39$ is the real scam here. If you're going to go the "unlicensed" route, just get MakeMKV and stream to VLC.

Too much trouble. Most people want an app that "just works" and this fits the bill just fine.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Too much trouble. Most people want an app that "just works" and this fits the bill just fine.

Your bank balance goes to $0.00 all by itself! No user intervention required.

 

[linux2mac]

Too much trouble. Most people want an app that "just works" and this fits the bill just fine.

That's why I left Windows for Mac despite Mac's lack of BD support. "It just works" trumps BD playback for me. Even McDonald's agrees that Macs "just work." LOL!!

Windows vs. Mac summed up in a McDonald’s flyer
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/07/...tm_campaign=Feed:+loopinsight/KqJb+(The+Loop)

 

[AidenShaw]

laughably lame

Windows vs. Mac summed up in a McDonald’s flyer
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/07/...tm_campaign=Feed:+loopinsight/KqJb+(The+Loop)

That is hysterical - read this comment about the flyer:

Just sillyness. Obviously the person who made this has no idea how to use Windows. Wow, ha.

 

[diamond.g]

actually that is heavily dependent on region of the blu ray,
around here digital copies are only provided on first initial (expensive) releases and then only for a few selected movies and then many are windows only

the most annoying thing with digital copies is that the studios don't even bother to put the requirments on the movie boxes so you don't even know wether you need a windows box or itunes

a typical oversight of the industry not to agree on a standard and making everybodies life easier

Isn't the standard the disc it came on?

 

[linux2mac]

That is hysterical - read this comment about the flyer:

Even more hysterical? The fact that Windows could possibly cause so much confusion.

 

[SilianRail]

That's why I left Windows for Mac despite Mac's lack of BD support. "It just works" trumps BD playback for me. Even McDonald's agrees that Macs "just work." LOL!!

Windows vs. Mac summed up in a McDonald’s flyer
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/07/...tm_campaign=Feed:+loopinsight/KqJb+(The+Loop)

lol