roflmao!!!
Not necessary for us to intervene. Technology and the marketplace seems to be doing fine by itself in that regard.
He knows to not use it anymore. That's enough.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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roflmao!!!
Not necessary for us to intervene. Technology and the marketplace seems to be doing fine by itself in that regard.
He knows to not use it anymore. That's enough.
I laughed as well, however my buttocks remained upon my body, and I remained in my chair.
Anyway, why are you two in such a hurry to see future products render current ones obsolete? There must be some reason. Do you hold 10,000 shares of AAPL, and want your $4 million to reach $5 million by year's end? If not greed, is it to brag about how cutting edge you are?
There really isn't any sane reason to want discs to die, as far as I can figure. Maybe you can help me understand why nobody should be allowed to play discs.
Blue ray = meh.
The way that the internet is going, you will be streaming your blue ray sized content over the web within a couple of years.
But seriously, who would want to put 60GB on a disk??.... Just put it on a server and get your clients to download it or put it on an external drive.
The way flash is going, blue ray will be obsolete soon and you will have 128gb flash storage in your pocket for $5....
Whenever I hear blue ray, I think Playstation 3. Anyone else the same?
The way that the internet is going, you will be streaming your blue ray sized content over the web within a couple of years.
But seriously, who would want to put 60GB on a disk??.... Just put it on a server and get your clients to download it or put it on an external drive.
The way flash is going, blue ray will be obsolete soon and you will have 128gb flash storage in your pocket for $5....
Whenever I hear blue ray, I think Playstation 3. Anyone else the same?
Ha, I can't get my current client (Dell, Inc.) to download 800MB files without complaining that it takes them all day. They have me FedEx discs for files even that small. You're high if you think clients are going to download 60GB files in the business world.
Bzzt... wrong answer. I can burn 125GB of data on discs TODAY for $4.50. I don't have to wait for your $5 128GB flash drive in the future. Not to mention discs will more than likely hold more data and get cheaper as time goes on, just like everything else. Plastic is hard to beat.
Newegg sells 30 BD-R spindle for $27
No, I think about movies in 1080p first, followed by sending clients data and/or movies that they can instantly play at full quality without buffering.
I do use streaming on occasion. I upload rough drafts to YouTube for clients to preview as the work is in progress. They like that, and it only takes +/- an hour to upload on my end, depending on the video clip.
Actually, by not supporting it in its current and future products, I expect Apple is trying to avert its customers from misconstruing that it forsees Blu-Ray as having legs.
Their motives are (again, just guessing) not to make serious bank selling or renting movies. They don't; it's a hobby. What they are trying to do is avoid confusing their customers. They see digitized media as the future. If Blu-Ray continues to fail at capturing the hearts and minds of the public, and a small percentage of their customers have begun to build their Blu-Ray collection with the expectation that Apple will continue to support it for the long haul, Apple risks upsetting them should they pull the plug.
Besides, don't Blu-Ray include digital copies you can watch on your laptops? Perhaps Apple expects the vast majority of people want to enjoy their Blu-Rays on their nice, new widescreen HD TVs while toting around the much more portable digital copy.
“I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.”
Bill Cosby
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Ah, so you believe Apple simply wants to avoid confusing those consumers that are less reasonable and/or intelligent. That makes sense. I recall in the 80's how Mac users would tell me that they loved not having to understand DOS commands and such because it was too confusing.
It's my opinion that you have Apple's motives reversed. They DO want to make bank on renting movies. It's not a hobby when they make as much money with iTunes as they do. Conversely, if they didn't want to confuse customers, why did they make the Thunderbolt port the same exact port as Mini DisplayPort? Seems like there could be some confusion there. Or, why did they release an update to OS X 10.6.8 called 10.6.8 Supplemental Update, not to mention 10.6.8 Update v1.1 and 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1? Again, could be seen as highly effing confusing. I'm not confused, but I know a lot of people are.
Here's what's really happening:
Discs are made of plastic. They're the cheapest form of storage out there today. It's the same reason there are still more gasoline powered cars than solar-powered flying cars. We have the technology to make awesome future cars, but until it's cheaper to do so, the masses get internal combustion engined cars. A lot of people WANT the future stuff now, but what that means is spending more money and creating more confusion, not less. Confusion = spending more money! If people had it all figured out, they wouldn't be hoodwinked into thinking they need a new gadget that now comes in white, now has this new plug (which is the same as another old plug), and now offers "natural" or "reverse" scrolling.
Where do I plug in my electric car? How long will it take at 120v instead of 240v? Where do I get my hydrogen fuel cell refilled during my road trip to Las Vegas? Can I use my mDP cable as a Thunderbolt cable? What do I do if I need to reinstall Lion, but have no disc? How do I watch a movie when the internet is down? How many movies a month can I watch with a 2GB data cap? Why do they call them smartphones when I have to update it every week or month, yet my dumb old Nokia ran without any maintenance for two years? How do I call someone when I lose my phone, since I no longer see any numbers, just names? Why doesn't my Final Cut Pro X open my Final Cut Pro 7 files? Why does the price of everything end in a series of nines, when zero is less than nine?
Save us from confusion? Not the case for Apple, nor most companies. Most are here to simplify the transfer of our money to their accounts.
2011 - The year of the iMbeciles.
What you have describe is not a problem with the notification system, but a problem with what Windows wants to notify you with. Here I am, and growl told me that my battery is unplugged, my battery is still unplugged, and oh it's plugged in now, and filled my screen with 100 twitter messages.
Regardless, it's still third party, highlighting the deficiencies of OS X.
Had to LOL because right after the first paragraph is this link:
[Related story: 5 Reasons Apple's Mac Mini Isn't Killing the DVD]
Enjoy.
The point has been that even though OSX supports Blu-Ray drives the DVD player app won't play movies.
Quite simply, if you want the highest quality movies available, in 1080p and lossless 7.1 surround, you need Blu-Ray.
Have you ever watched a DVD on a 2560x1600 cinema display?
I'd love to have a Mac Mini driving my 65" plasma home theater but because it doesn't support Blu-Ray and, with one exception, doesn't support HDMI multichannel audio, I have to use a PC to do it.
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Jobs may believe in a post-PC era where content is simply in his iCloud and you can buy it/upload it. But until bandwidth is much greater and isn't capped (mobile and some land-based) - you will be sacrificing both video and audio quality. Many won't/don't care for the convenience. But is silly and erroneous to perpetuate the misnomer that cable and other streaming services offer true HD content. HD isn't just resolution. It's also bitrate.
And many DO care and want to have the best audio and video quality.
my .02.
And many DO care and want to have the best audio and video quality.
my .02.
Why? Is there any other way to get TrueHD 1080p 40 Mbps material with lossless 7.1 audio?
...legally...
I don't think that I'll find a market for HiDef videos of my cats.
If I'd said "legally, ethically and morally", China would not have come up.
What I would like is Apple offering external bdxl-burner (like Air Superdrive) with integrated TB-hub and ssd (like this:
http://en.akihabaranews.com/96765/s...drive-and-30mm-slot-in-dvd-player-this-summer
), 3 things in one small box!
My client asked me, what format would that video be in, that every computer could playback it. I had to answer that such thing does not exist. And that's why we have standard methods of delivering content like dvd and bd.
Flash video could have been pretty much standard, but Apple killed that also.
Long live iTunes that does not help me distribute my corporate videos to my clients or does not even offer any movies for my entertainment in my country!
Looks like Steve-O can't kill optical storage in his lifetime:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/20/ge-holographic-storage-burns-500gb-discs-at-the-speed-of-a-blu-r/
Upscaling is not in the same league as Blu-Ray.
Besides, to make 720x480 look good on 2560x1600, you're asking for miracles. You can't make up picture detail that isn't there in the source.
Apple backpeddled because of this too.
How you ask? Up until FCPX - they touted that FCP Suite was great for Blu-Ray authoring. Only one problem - Apple's didn't have blu-ray or playback.
I found this to be laugh worthy (in a sad way).
You'll note that they don't mention blu-ray at all now.
How you ask? Up until FCPX - they touted that FCP Suite was great for Blu-Ray authoring. Only one problem - Apple's didn't have blu-ray or playback.
I found this to be laugh worthy (in a sad way).
You'll note that they don't mention blu-ray at all now.
I don't think that I'll find a market for HiDef videos of my cats.
I dunno, there's some strange people on the internet.
I don't think that I'll find a market for HiDef videos of my cats.
Well they made a movie out of the game battleship so who knows.
Seems to be that Apple's plan for killing optical is to be able to sell tiny $1 usb stick for $40!
There's no other product in the world that you could get this high profits!
Lack of BD is just one of the signs that the gap what would be technically easy to implement by Apple and what is really offered is widening all the time.
There's no other product in the world that you could get this high profits!
Lack of BD is just one of the signs that the gap what would be technically easy to implement by Apple and what is really offered is widening all the time.
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