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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Damn, I should have patented my post and applied for a Community Design on it so I wouldn't have to deal with these blatant, inferior copies.
Just kidding, of course. Imitation is still the most sincere form of flattery, thank you.
That is weird. What is even weirder is that the Windows folks slam Apple for not supporting BD but Microsoft doesn't support BD out the box either.
Come back when it auto-plays when you insert the BD and gives you full access to all of the features (including lossless audio) of the BD - even if you still have the kludge of the separate external drive.
I won't argue about the lack of a BD drive as much if an Apple could simply play an .ISO image of a BD.
depends how you define "supported"
Not really - most of us don't think that "supported" means piping the BD through a DRM cracker into an open source player - while losing much of the functionality of the BD.
Not really - most of us don't think that "supported" means piping the BD through a DRM cracker into an open source player - while losing much of the functionality of the BD.
Uh huh.
So make that argument against streaming (you lose all the crappy "bonus" ******** no one really wants, the FBI warnings, the unstoppable trailers, etc.).
Personally, I buy blurays (lots of them!) and I buy them to watch the movies.
That is weird. What is even weirder is that the Windows folks slam Apple for not supporting BD but Microsoft doesn't support BD out the box either.
That's a nonsense argument.
Microsoft supports the protected media path required by BD out-of-the-box. Apple doesn't support protected media paths.
Virtually every BD reader/writer, however, bundles the player software with the drive (factory, BTO, OEM or aftermarket). A simple way to avoid paying the small BD licensing fees on systems without BD drives.
Net difference to the user? Zero. If you buy a system with a BD drive, it plays BDs. If you buy an aftermarket BD player, its software disc has the player.
Do BD drives come with Apple software? No, Apple doesn't support the protected media path.
Until recently, Microsoft didn't ship MPEG-2 codecs with the OS - they came with a DVD drive if you ordered a system with one. Same argument.
Microsoft doesn't ship 3D (DirectX/OpenGL) drivers on the installation ISO/DVD. They come from software update or manual download from the graphics vendor after installing Windows.
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I agree completely! But I'm sure there will still be another 6,000 posts to follow.
This thread will live longer than Jobs....
You say "protected media path" as if it's real name isn't "performance-sapping evil mechanism from hell"
From the Microsoft support page entitled "Error when trying to play Blu-ray disc-To play this DVD, you must first install a playback application that supports Blu-ray Disc."
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Let us know if you ever join MacRumors. We'd love your input on this subject.
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P.S. If you look through some of the other posters, it appears that, should you upgrade your Windows OS, you may have to pay for an upgrade to the software required to play Blu-Rays in your optical drive. Some people are recommending a $100 software solution. Is that really the case?!!
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You know what; it's the same thing over and over again with Microsoft. Windows Vista a memory hog but Blue Ray worked fine, now Windows 7 supposedly the "answer" to all Windows problems but it has stupid issues as well, just like the Blue Ray issue. I always thought technology was moving ahead, but with Microsoft it moves backwards and sideways!! I had the same exact problem with the Blue Ray movies. For crine out loud you would think a "Media Player" in 2009 would come with the codecs to play DVD movies of this type. But not with Microsoft. The solution to my problem was dumping windows all together and buying a iMac with a dual core duo 3.6 gig processor (screams), and a 27" HD monitor, 4 gigs of memory, 500GB drive (sata) 8X DVD (my blue ray drive is external), and a Nividia GeFORCE 9400M video card (excellent choice) for less than twelve hundred bucks!! If you are a student, teacher or someone who works for a school (or you know someone who does and will buy for ya), you can get a discount off that price as well. End your stupid Microsoft problems once and for all. Oh, and Mac's now have Intel processors so you can run Microsoft programs like Word and Office on them as well.
Good Luck!! C Ya Microsoft.
Good Luck!! C Ya Microsoft.
Dear flip5050,
Let us know if you ever join MacRumors. We'd love your input on this subject.
Respectfully,
MacNewsFix
P.S. If you look through some of the other posters, it appears that, should you upgrade your Windows OS, you may have to pay for an upgrade to the software required to play Blu-Rays in your optical drive. Some people are recommending a $100 software solution. Is that really the case?!!
There's a line said by Obi-Wan in Episode III that comes to my mind when I read this-
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
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We're not at the breaking point just yet. You'll know we're in trouble when you start seeing drivel like this:
"Mesa propose, that APPLE give immediately BLU-RAY PLAYBACK to the MAC computers."
You say "protected media path" as if it's real name isn't "performance-sapping evil mechanism from hell"
Why do people dual-boot their Apples into Windows 7 for graphics performance then?
Really? Yet Microsoft pawns the BD licensing off on everyone else. No money = no conviction.
What is nonsense is how you continuously get away with distasteful comments regarding Steve Jobs health and insulting other forum members.
That's some cold ass ****. If there is a hell, send me a postcard.
Of course, for someone who hates all things Apple and goes so far as to wish ill fortune on its CEO, you seem to live in this forum (An average of over 3 posts a day since 2003 and over ten thous....TEN THOUSAND POSTS?!! OMG!!!
). So maybe you're already in hell. You've even paid to be here (see becoming a Demi-God)! I'd know if I was forced to hang around winrumors.com that much it would be pretty close to my interpretation.
That's some cold ass ****. If there is a hell, send me a postcard.
Of course, for someone who hates all things Apple and going so far as to wish ill fortune on its CEO, you seem to live in this forum (An average of over 3 posts a day since 2003 and over ten thous....TEN THOUSAND POSTS?!! OMG!!!
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Not on "everyone else" - it's paid by people who choose (I know that "choice" is a dirty word in Apple-land) to add a BD movie player to their system. (Not even "add a BD player" - some after-market BD drives don't include the player software - they're for BD data only.)
Microsoft's business model is to push licensing costs off to the peripherals that require the licenses. If you don't have those peripherals, however small the fees are you don't have to pay them.
It's been that way for ages. (Windows didn't support DVD movies either - it had all the hardware support, but didn't ship the MPEG-2 codecs needed to play DVD movies.)
And thanks to all the anti-trust proceedings in the past, Microsoft has to worry about what they bundle with the OS.
As to general usage of a slang tech term? Do I have to answer that?
Quit dumbing down words. How is that possibly something YOU approve of? Christ, anything to rag on Apple or Apple product owners, eh.
Any discussion of what windows does or does not do is irrelevant. We aren't talking about windows. We're talking about Mac and MacOs. If you have issues with playing BD on Windows - I am sure there's a forum for that
It's like when someone gets pulled over for speeding and tells the cop that the guy in front of him was speeding too. Doesn't matter - just because the other guy was doesn't mean you weren't. Nor does it make you any less culpable.
Apple has chosen to not support blu-ray. Anyone playing a full blu-ray in full resolution and with the best audio while having access to ALL parts of the disc is doing so via jury-rigs.
No one would argue Apple supporting or not supporting something on an iPhone when it can't do x but if you jailbreak it can. Not much difference. CAN you ultimately play a blu-ray movie (only) on a Mac. Sure. But that's not really the center of the discussion here. And the people who argue otherwise are either purposely deflecting the conversation or don't get it.
It's like when someone gets pulled over for speeding and tells the cop that the guy in front of him was speeding too. Doesn't matter - just because the other guy was doesn't mean you weren't. Nor does it make you any less culpable.
Apple has chosen to not support blu-ray. Anyone playing a full blu-ray in full resolution and with the best audio while having access to ALL parts of the disc is doing so via jury-rigs.
No one would argue Apple supporting or not supporting something on an iPhone when it can't do x but if you jailbreak it can. Not much difference. CAN you ultimately play a blu-ray movie (only) on a Mac. Sure. But that's not really the center of the discussion here. And the people who argue otherwise are either purposely deflecting the conversation or don't get it.
Bahahaha. Rep'd.
@samcraig, spot on. Though I might need to reinvestigate makemkv. It was originally mentioned and dismissed as useless on here. Now suddenly, everyone (with the exception of cube, who made some good points) is saying it's awesome.
There's no moving of goal posts except by you, who claims that by bypassing the DRM, it's possible to watch the BD movie - in an unsupported and unreliable way.
That's no good. Besides, circumventing the DRM is illegal (in many countries), so one might as well just download a BD rip off the internet.
No goal posts moved, Apple needs and shall, support BD as it does DVD. No less.
And honestly, who cares how you use BDs? Really.
Nobody.
Seriously, why people are supporting the so-called redundancy of optical media? You may not need them, other people might need them. Not everyone has a fast internet connection and not everyone has unlimited internet. I just installed iWork via the installation disc, is this a blasphemy to Apple?
In fact BD HD content are immune from stuttering and buffering. I can't see the possibility of streaming BD quality 1080p with current infrastructure.
In fact BD HD content are immune from stuttering and buffering. I can't see the possibility of streaming BD quality 1080p with current infrastructure.
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