Ah. You probably like computerized phone trees and that hard plastic packaging they put things in, too. Since they all serve no purpose other than keeping you away from the thing you're trying to get to.
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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon
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Ah. You probably like computerized phone trees and that hard plastic packaging they put things in, too. Since they all serve no purpose other than keeping you away from the thing you're trying to get to.
"computerized phone trees"
You know - where you call a business and instead of getting to speak to a human you have to enter your account number, press 1 for customer service, press 1 for English, confirm your account number again, etc.
Just as these phone trees are useless and frustrating add-ons designed to stand between you and the thing you're trying to get to, so too are bd menus.
Hmm. Odd. It seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the only acceptable solution for you is to have everything exactly as you would like it to be but for free? Not really understanding the gist of your complaints other than it seems you just like to complain and are quite inflexible. Especially considering that there are numerous solutions.
I use all three OSs (Win 7, OS X, Linux Mint) depending on the mission. Each has qualities the other may lack or offer a better implementation of some computing aspect. I certainly have no reason to complain as I can enjoy the best of three worlds. Be it on a Mac
or on a PC. I have a question for you; why do you need to play blu-rays on your PC as opposed to a TV? I'm hoping the answer may reveal why you have so much angst surrounding this issue.
Hmm. Odd. It seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the only acceptable solution for you is to have everything exactly as you would like it to be but for free? Not really understanding the gist of your complaints other than it seems you just like to complain and are quite inflexible. Especially considering that there are numerous solutions.
I use all three OSs (Win 7, OS X, Linux Mint) depending on the mission. Each has qualities the other may lack or offer a better implementation of some computing aspect. I certainly have no reason to complain as I can enjoy the best of three worlds. Be it on a Mac
I have a question for you; why do you need to play blu-rays on your PC as opposed to a TV? The answer my reveal why you have so much angst surrounding this issue.
What does free have to do with anything? I bought a Mac after all. And I would prefer Solaris to Linux. And I said the reason why I didn't switch to Linux was because of the lack of COMMERCIAL consumer applications.
Count me in on that too. I love Blu Rays but don't need to watch them on my computer--that's what my blu ray player is for.
Exactly. I bought my Macs fully aware I would not be playing BD on them. I have no desire to watch a movie at my desk or via a notebook on my lap.
What does free have to do with anything? It's a guess that that is what you seem to want since you complain about every solution offered as not being a solution. And that each of those solutions requires one to purchase something in order to manifest it.
And now you state that you'd prefer Solaris to Linux.
All of which leads back to the original question; why did you buy a Mac knowing it cannot natively play Blu-ray media and whose OS you consider inferior to both Linux and Solaris?
You seem computer savvy enough to be able to effectively use alternative OSs without possessing an irrational loyalty to any one OS. So I'm not really understanding the nature of your complaints and your unwillingness to solve your own issue like some of us have using various solutions.
Probably because with a simple change in the OS, the Mac can support BD, so it was hardly a reason to stay away.
The hardware supports BD, if one installs a BD drive, and software can be changed. And it frequently does - adding to that the numerous other reasons for choosing a Mac, then I don't see the confusion.
First tell us your thoughts on the possibility of Blu-ray coming to the Mac at some point- otherwise you're just spamming.
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Probably because with a simple change in the OS, the Mac can support BD, so it was hardly a reason to stay away.
The hardware supports BD, if one installs a BD drive, and software can be changed. And it frequently does - adding to that the numerous other reasons for choosing a Mac, then I don't see the confusion.
Yes of course. I agree. It is hardly a reason to stay away. (Especially since there are various solutions to address BD playback.)
But the confusion comes with cube's belligerent rejections of the various solutions available for a Mac to manage Blu-ray playback. It seems quite important to him/her to be able to watch Blu-ray on a Mac. More importantly, to be able to do it natively in OS X.
So it begs the question, "why did you get a Mac knowing it doesn't support Blu-ray?"
If it didn't support BD playback in OS X at the time of purchase, what would lead one to believe it would later on considering that one would have to not only update the OS (at a cost), but also the hardware (DVD optical drive to a BD optical drive) at an additional cost?
At this rate, we'll hit 7000 in no time.
Has there been much discussion yet on what it might take for Steve J. to change his mind? I'm reserved to the idea that he never will, but say the ISPs all make streaming movies too costly... Then maybe?
Has there been much discussion yet on what it might take for Steve J. to change his mind? I'm reserved to the idea that he never will, but say the ISPs all make streaming movies too costly... Then maybe?
Seeing as how his reasoning in the original post for not supporting it was because Blu-ray was destined to fade away like the high-end music formats, I'm hoping he'll start to change his tune a little after next month when BD makes the jump to light-speed. And by that I mean the carbonite freezing room is going to look incredible in high-bitrate 1080p...
I think this fall could be a significant turning point for Blu-ray in terms of market share. Aside from the long-awaited Star Wars films, there are a LOT of other films coming to Blu this fall that will add to the format's appeal- both new and catalog titles.
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Say what you will about the changes, the prequels, Jar-Jar, whatever- but the fact remains that these films are going to sell like hotcakes. They already are, and they aren't even out yet. According to Blu-ray.com, the Star Wars complete saga is the number one selling blu-ray title on Amazon. Not just for pre-orders, but for sales in general. That's pretty astounding when you think about it- this is a six-disc box set that isn't out yet, and it's outselling all of the single-disc titles that are available right now...
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/top.php?country=usa
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Nah, Mr Jobs isn't known for his acts of capitulation to consumer demands. He's more on about shaping consumer demand.
Besides, if anything, it's something that should have been done at or very near the outset of BD's official adoption. Otherwise it looks like a Johnny-come-lately implementation. Especially from a forward looking, trendsetting company like Apple.
In any event, Apple is on the path to do away with optical media altogether. For better or for worse. On the whole though, I believe it's best to do away with optical media considering the synergistic and likely convergent path that Mac OS and iOS are heading on.
If anything, perhaps a future version of Apple TV or a special HTPC version of the Mac Mini may incorporate it. It would be a good way to save face after all. And one could then rip the BD's to be able to play on iPad/iPod/iPhone using a HTPC version of the Mac mini with BD player.
Besides, if anything, it's something that should have been done at or very near the outset of BD's official adoption. Otherwise it looks like a Johnny-come-lately implementation. Especially from a forward looking, trendsetting company like Apple.
In any event, Apple is on the path to do away with optical media altogether. For better or for worse. On the whole though, I believe it's best to do away with optical media considering the synergistic and likely convergent path that Mac OS and iOS are heading on.
If anything, perhaps a future version of Apple TV or a special HTPC version of the Mac Mini may incorporate it. It would be a good way to save face after all. And one could then rip the BD's to be able to play on iPad/iPod/iPhone using a HTPC version of the Mac mini with BD player.
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That's sad.
I am trying to decide whether to buy the original trilogy. I keep hoping they'll come out with the unedited original series at some point. (No way I'm buying the "first" three episodes - I need to set a proper example for my kid).
Reading through the responses here from people pointing out how much better BD is to streaming and other methods makes a lot of sense. Only, the reality is not working out that way.
BD is struggling. Hell, the entire movie-on-disc industry is struggling with DVD's AND Blu-Ray. The rentals chains are a thing of the past. I mean, it's so scary how many big chains...Blockbuster, Hollywood Video etc etc are closing up shop. Can this all be due to Netflix and Redbox?
We hear stories of how Netflix takes up so much bandwidth now, but that can't be the entire picture can it? I mean, does anyone even remember Blockbusters? They were all over the place...with tons of people crawling over the new releases on a weekend like ants. There were lines at the cash registers to check out videos. Where did all these thousands and thousands...hell...millions of people go? They're all watching Netflix Streaming and getting little DVD's in the mail?
So, we can do the math all we want about theoretical bandwidth limits and things of this nature and cry out for the benefits and picture quality of Blu-Ray over streaming and blah blah blah. But it doesn't seem like anyone cares.
BD is struggling. Hell, the entire movie-on-disc industry is struggling with DVD's AND Blu-Ray. The rentals chains are a thing of the past. I mean, it's so scary how many big chains...Blockbuster, Hollywood Video etc etc are closing up shop. Can this all be due to Netflix and Redbox?
We hear stories of how Netflix takes up so much bandwidth now, but that can't be the entire picture can it? I mean, does anyone even remember Blockbusters? They were all over the place...with tons of people crawling over the new releases on a weekend like ants. There were lines at the cash registers to check out videos. Where did all these thousands and thousands...hell...millions of people go? They're all watching Netflix Streaming and getting little DVD's in the mail?
So, we can do the math all we want about theoretical bandwidth limits and things of this nature and cry out for the benefits and picture quality of Blu-Ray over streaming and blah blah blah. But it doesn't seem like anyone cares.
Solid point.
I wonder that myself. There's also Cable's on demand service and PPV. I know for myself, I only buy BD that I consider classic stuff I'll watch more than a few times. Otherwise, I'll wait until it airs on cable and DVR it or get it via cable's on demand service. In my town, there are no more brick and mortar rental places. Last one, a Blockbuster, closed late last year.
That's sort of true to some degree. Those without big screen entertainment systems don't seem to care all that much about picture quality. And the difference in HD format quality on a 13-17" LCD or 10" tablet isn't all that discernible for many.
Anyway, nice points and observations.
- BD did not exist
- I didn't want x86 garbage
- I wanted Unix
- Apple was not behaving in this way
- Microsoft is off-limits
I tried to watch a Netflix "good" quality stream last night.
It seemed that "good quality" meant "something less than you'd expect from a VHS EP tape". (52 inch XBR)
That is, when it did play instead of pausing to buffer....
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