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Steve Jobs Suggests Blu-ray Not Coming to Mac Anytime Soon

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Carniphage said:
Is it Sony's vehicle for copy protection. No more no less. Sony makes their money by licensing this kind of tech. They do not give it away for free.



They joined so they could read the small print.
But never paid to license it.

If their refusal to license were hurting them commercially, they would do so in a heartbeat.

C.
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How many times am I going to tell you that Sony does not own blu-ray.. It was first own by 9 companies and Sony was ONLY ONE OF THEM.. Blu-ray license is own by other companies not just Sony..

Do some damn research because you making yourself look like a fool..

Also just because Sony does not make a profit on the PS3 does not mean the PS3 failed.. Get your fact right..
 
Slim02 said:
How many times am I going to tell you that Sony does not own blu-ray.. It was first own by 9 companies and Sony was ONLY ONE OF THEM.. Blu-ray license is own by other companies not just Sony..

Do some damn research because you making yourself look like a fool..

Also just because Sony does not make a profit on the PS3 does not mean the PS3 failed.. Get your fact right..
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You can stop. I've proven him wrong many times on other points and he keeps coming back. Either he's just vying for attention or he just doesn't read other's posts.

At this point, he's arguing for argument's sake, he doesn't really have anything worthwhile to provide to this discussion.
 
In the UK Apple TV will always fail miserably.

You have people with no money who buy what we call "FreeView" box's to give them a certain amount of free TV stations to watch.

I say, free but it's not really as in the UK we all have to pay a TV licence my law to watch live TV, but we'll forget about that.

Other people who want to watch TV choose from the other two big players and basically rule the UK.

Sky with the Sky satellite dish and TV Box's in the home (normal and hi-def)

Virgin with their cable system and TV Box's in the home (normal and hi-def)

Both companies offer (as part of a whole package) Phone land lines, Broadband Internet and their TV packages.

These two GIANT companies together the FreeView totally dominate the UK.

Apple is just wasting its time if it things it's going to get anywhere big time in the UK.
 
henk53 said:
But don't make us belief that Blu-ray is exclusively owned by Sony and each and every other company thus must pay royalties only to Sony. The only thing you accomplish is to demonstrate how uninformed you are...
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Please.
Do a little research.
Whose engineers created the BluRay standard?
Who receives the lion's-share of the licence fee?
Who invested massively to force the movie studios to reject the other HD disk format?

And it's all perfectly fine and dandy.

Sony are entitled to play this game. It worked for them many times in the past. Sony Vaio laptops are equipped with BluRay. So anyone that thinks that this optical disk copy protection system is valuable is completely free to go out and buy one of these wonderfully functional and crap-ware-free computers.

That is how free markets operate.

Where in the rule books does it say that other companies are obliged to buy into technologies they don't profit from and do not think add value to their products?

I am certain that Zune owners would be keen to access iTunes content. But by selecting the Zune hardware they ruled themselves out of that option.

These difficult choices are made by consumers. If you buy a BMW, you don't get those funky Audi headlights. Live with it. Or chose different.

If you buy a Mac, you don't get the BluRay. Tant Pis!

This is not a complex problem.
If you want BluRay, buy a Vaio. or a Dell. What exactly is the problem?

C.
 
jnpy!$4g3cwk said:
The first complete 4K is yet to come. Supposedly, "The Social Network" will be 4K throughout, and a number of theaters are ready. Look for it in October.
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Super!

Very few digital cinemas are equipped with 4K projectors. <5% of cinemas.

According to Panavision most conventional analog prints struggle to achieve 1000 lines of resolution - ie 2K.

In time, cinemas may eventually deliver 4K - but to deliver it domestically means 100" screens viewed from 10'.

I am a film-geek. But I am not that much of a film geek.

C.
 
Carniphage said:
This is getting bizzare.
Remember something called Walkman.
Remember what happened to it?

C.
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Still being sold to this day ?

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...0001&productId=1006741&navigationPath=n100363

So you're claiming because they are selling competing products in an arena unrelated at all to movies they are now Rivals and must kill each other ?

Again, please comment on Sony Music CDs on iTunes, Sony Pictures movies on iTunes please. Please comment on Sony iPod docks.

Seriously, you're wrong, deal.
 
DoFoT9 said:
hehe shows how young i actually am! i associate walkmen with CD hahahahahahah. woops :(
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Not that young, since portable CD players sold around 1994 didn't have skipping and jumping issues with the added buffering. Unless you really shook them hard.

I owned a tape based yellow walkman until the Panasonic Shockwave model came out with those headphones that vibrated. Talk about a hot gimmick.
 
KnightWRX said:
Not that young, since portable CD players sold around 1994 didn't have skipping and jumping issues with the added buffering. Unless you really shook them hard.
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they had buffering worse then what my iPod 5g does! i could make them skip just driving in the car, i had to make a special holster out of rubber bands to stop it! it was a Sony top end one, cost $350 IIRC. this was bought in about 2001.

FTR my iPod 5G cant play most aiff files as they wont fit in the tiny buffer ;)
 
DoFoT9 said:
they had buffering worse then what my iPod 5g does! i could make them skip just driving in the car, i had to make a special holster out of rubber bands to stop it! it was a Sony top end one, cost $350 IIRC. this was bought in about 2001.

FTR my iPod 5G cant play most aiff files as they wont fit in the tiny buffer ;)
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Maybe Sony just sucks at buffering ? Never owned a Sony CD portable player.

My Panasonic Shockwave had a 12 seconds buffer and I had to shake it for 12 seconds before it skipped (marketing proving true ? How wild!). Even in the car, you'd have to have been driving on some kind of gravel road for it to skip.
 
KnightWRX said:
Maybe Sony just sucks at buffering ? Never owned a Sony CD portable player.

My Panasonic Shockwave had a 12 seconds buffer and I had to shake it for 12 seconds before it skipped (marketing proving true ? How wild!). Even in the car, you'd have to have been driving on some kind of gravel road for it to skip.
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HAHAHA. hmm yea its likely that the sony is dreadful. it was a great CD player though - i loved it! just my iPods are better :p
 
Piggie said:
In the UK Apple TV will always fail miserably.

You have people with no money who buy what we call "FreeView" box's to give them a certain amount of free TV stations to watch.

I say, free but it's not really as in the UK we all have to pay a TV licence my law to watch live TV, but we'll forget about that.

Other people who want to watch TV choose from the other two big players and basically rule the UK.

Sky with the Sky satellite dish and TV Box's in the home (normal and hi-def)

Virgin with their cable system and TV Box's in the home (normal and hi-def)

Both companies offer (as part of a whole package) Phone land lines, Broadband Internet and their TV packages.

These two GIANT companies together the FreeView totally dominate the UK.

Apple is just wasting its time if it things it's going to get anywhere big time in the UK.
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Which makes me wonder why Apple doesn't add a tv tuner to the box to support digital/freeview, sell a 'stackable' unit that can expand storage capacity so people can download movies and/or record stuff on the tv, use it as the hub to store music and hook it up to the stereo etc. It seems that AppleTV is 2 or 3 features short of actually being a really useful device and Apple unable to see the obviousness of such a feature short fall.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
Which makes me wonder why Apple doesn't add a tv tuner to the box to support digital/freeview, sell a 'stackable' unit that can expand storage capacity so people can download movies and/or record stuff on the tv, use it as the hub to store music and hook it up to the stereo etc. It seems that AppleTV is 2 or 3 features short of actually being a really useful device and Apple unable to see the obviousness of such a feature short fall.
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do you think a stackable unit would sell well?

how much free to air TV is there in the US and UK? australia has quite a bit so it would sell ok here i feel.
 
Carniphage said:
Is it Sony's vehicle for copy protection. No more no less. Sony makes their money by licensing this kind of tech. They do not give it away for free.

C.
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Man u r clueless. Please educate yourself about BD and stop posting because most of the stuff u post about BD is crap info.

FYI AACS is a product of the AACS consortium, not Sony. BD+ was developed by CRI. Sony neither controls or licenses either.
 
Carniphage said:
Please.
Do a little research.
Whose engineers created the BluRay standard?
Who receives the lion's-share of the licence fee?
Who invested massively to force the movie studios to reject the other HD disk format?
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Panasonic reportedly has the most patents in the Blu-ray patent pool. From memory the big players in Blu-ray development were Panasonic, Pioneer, Sony, and Philips
 
It's long overdue to get rid of optical discs... Apple brought them to computing in the mid 80's, now it's taking them out... Wireless works just fine for video, so there is no need to keep the computer industry in the past.

Steve is right, let's move on...
 
macintoshtoffy said:
Which makes me wonder why Apple doesn't add a tv tuner to the box to support digital/freeview, sell a 'stackable' unit that can expand storage capacity so people can download movies and/or record stuff on the tv, use it as the hub to store music and hook it up to the stereo etc. It seems that AppleTV is 2 or 3 features short of actually being a really useful device and Apple unable to see the obviousness of such a feature short fall.
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No, Apple is just ahead of the game... you wouldn't want a digital tuner on an Apple device since that data isn't part of the web. And local storage isn't needed since it's already stored somewhere, so why duplicate the data?

Your ideas made since 15 years ago, but the web/internet has rendered those concepts obsolete... now "everything" is just a stream which is far easier to manage.
 
wreckshop said:
Man u r clueless. Please educate yourself about BD and stop posting because most of the stuff u post about BD is crap info.

FYI AACS is a product of the AACS consortium, not Sony. BD+ was developed by CRI. Sony neither controls or licenses either.
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Indeed, and also don't forget about the BD-J (Java) license where Oracle (previously Sun) owns the technology behind it.
 
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