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Steve Jobs Taking Medical Leave of Absence Until June
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There is a lot of progress being made in the cancer stem cell field (I have a few projects going in this realm at the moment, but havent dived in completely yet). We are actually quite good at curing cancer in mice and rats; it's the humans that tend to be a bit of a problem. That said, let's not forget that 75% of people who get cancer will survive the disease. Despite what you might think, we actually cure a fairly high proportion of cancers.
Oh come on. That's just pathetic to compare.
People die every day yes. People who shaped the word, helped change it and are really well though of by millions of people - that is different.
You can say the same about every famous person - of course they get more attention that other people if they have bad health. They are a big loss to the world because they affect so many people.
1 Mr Jobs - not wishing him a near future death,
2 Apple - for me they have to operate as if he is dead. There are contingency/handover plans, keep focused on the business. If/when he returns, bonus, the third coming.
2 Apple - for me they have to operate as if he is dead. There are contingency/handover plans, keep focused on the business. If/when he returns, bonus, the third coming.
Don't assume that the diagnosis was easy, or even known yet
I just wanted to point out a couple of things (first with the caveat that I am not Steve Jobs's physician and I have no personal knowledge of the case; however, I am an academic physician at a major medical center)
1) We simply cannot assume that Steve Jobs's diagnosis was (or is) completely known. The list of things that can cause someone to lose weight after a Whipple procedure is very long, and the testing for some of the possibilities is not always reliable. Clearly he has been losing weight for months, but his physicians may very well have been searching for the entire time before coming up with a diagnosis and treatment plan. Among the many possibilities is a recurrence of cancer, though other causes are in fact more likely.
2) If the diagnosis is not known, then prognosis is almost impossible to predict in a case like this. We still don't know enough to guess whether he is in fact dying, or going to make a complete recovery (or anywhere in between).
Therefore, allegations of "painting an unrealistic picture" or "major communication breakdown" are speculative at best. Either is possible, but so is the possibility that Steve is telling the truth and attempting to minimize the effect of his health issues (which are personal) on the company and shareholders.
3) Steve is clearly a brilliant man in his own field. I have treated many brilliant men (and women) and can confidently say that being brilliant does not necessarily translate into being medically knowledgeable nor savvy. Any patient presented with a confusing diagnostic picture must be confident in the final diagnosis and likely will seek multiple opinions (and appropriately so...) before deciding on treatment options.
I recommend that we take him at his word, and wish him the best.
For myself, all I can do is wait. Overall, Apple should do well regardless of Steve Job's future involvement, in large part due to his past involvement.
I just wanted to point out a couple of things (first with the caveat that I am not Steve Jobs's physician and I have no personal knowledge of the case; however, I am an academic physician at a major medical center)
1) We simply cannot assume that Steve Jobs's diagnosis was (or is) completely known. The list of things that can cause someone to lose weight after a Whipple procedure is very long, and the testing for some of the possibilities is not always reliable. Clearly he has been losing weight for months, but his physicians may very well have been searching for the entire time before coming up with a diagnosis and treatment plan. Among the many possibilities is a recurrence of cancer, though other causes are in fact more likely.
2) If the diagnosis is not known, then prognosis is almost impossible to predict in a case like this. We still don't know enough to guess whether he is in fact dying, or going to make a complete recovery (or anywhere in between).
Therefore, allegations of "painting an unrealistic picture" or "major communication breakdown" are speculative at best. Either is possible, but so is the possibility that Steve is telling the truth and attempting to minimize the effect of his health issues (which are personal) on the company and shareholders.
3) Steve is clearly a brilliant man in his own field. I have treated many brilliant men (and women) and can confidently say that being brilliant does not necessarily translate into being medically knowledgeable nor savvy. Any patient presented with a confusing diagnostic picture must be confident in the final diagnosis and likely will seek multiple opinions (and appropriately so...) before deciding on treatment options.
I recommend that we take him at his word, and wish him the best.
For myself, all I can do is wait. Overall, Apple should do well regardless of Steve Job's future involvement, in large part due to his past involvement.
Interesting logic for being sure Steve has been lying. Thee points:
1. What is special about this past week that makes finding a new medical factor impossible? You say that it could have been discovered pre-Macworld, and could NOT have been discovered post-Macworld. Well... everything is discovered some time. So yes, it COULD have been found in this past week. (Whatever it is--cancer being only ONE possibility.)
2. You're talking about the common kind of pancreatic cancer, while Jobs was diagnosed with a much more rare (and less dangerous) kind. One that leads to later complications, however, and weight loss is among them. Cancer again is possible for anyone, but your information on the wrong kind of cancer doesn't apply.
3. "coolaid" is fun to say, but was actually used by Jim Jones to kill his followers, not to persuade them.
Yes, it'll be such a horrible loss when famous people like Charles Manson and OJ Simpson die.
I never said people cannot be cured just heard something the other day that may be a huge breakthrough in making it 100% cure.
Why aren't they handing the baton to Jonathan Ive? He would make a great replacement and a lot of people feel that way.
I think the people who are pissed about the stock price made a bad investment choice and they are trying to pass the blame on to Steve.
Too many investors think Steve Jobs = Apple. This inherently makes the stock more risky because a good portion of the stock price comes from Steve being the CEO. You take Steve away, you take the investors confidence away, the price drops.
If this is the only stock you are holding, you are a moron, plain and simple. This stock should only play a purely speculative role inside well diversified portfolio of stocks and other investments.
Don't be insensitive.
Too many investors think Steve Jobs = Apple. This inherently makes the stock more risky because a good portion of the stock price comes from Steve being the CEO. You take Steve away, you take the investors confidence away, the price drops.
If this is the only stock you are holding, you are a moron, plain and simple. This stock should only play a purely speculative role inside well diversified portfolio of stocks and other investments.
Don't be insensitive.
Not necessarily
Sorry to have to disagree, but I don't think you know what you think you know. See my earlier post about diagnostic uncertainty.
Sorry to have to disagree, but I don't think you know what you think you know. See my earlier post about diagnostic uncertainty.
LOL. Jobs can make all the iCrap and Hollywood all the movies they want, but without all those billions of ordinary everyday slobs buying their stuff, they ain't squat. Personally, they should be kissing our a**es.
Logically, I think you're right on them opperating as if he return will never be. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best... but prepare and work as if a post-boss era and if he returns (to which I hope he does), it's a bonus.
You're clever on the "third coming".
I finally got a Mac in 2007 - thanks Steve & Co
Whatever happens in the future, Apple changed the world and made many of us happy to be geeks.
Whatever happens in the future, Apple changed the world and made many of us happy to be geeks.
Are you all out of your minds? What would you say if you were seriously ill, and people in this forum made fun of you? Stop digging his grave and talking him into it, goddamn!
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Dear Mr Jobs, if you read thisdon't listen to the morons who cry over their stocks and firewire ports. You've achieved the impossible before, now take a rest and get well.
You've brought so much joy into my life, thank you very much for that!
My thoughts are with you and your loved ones.
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Dear Mr Jobs, if you read thisdon't listen to the morons who cry over their stocks and firewire ports. You've achieved the impossible before, now take a rest and get well.
You've brought so much joy into my life, thank you very much for that!
My thoughts are with you and your loved ones.
I'm very sorry to hear about this. I hope this news actually signifies a turning point for the better. Best wishes to him for a speedy recovery.
Scientists have been able to cure cancer in rats for years. Myself, I have don't work on human breast cancer implanted into SCID mice (mice without immune system of their own to reject the foreign cells). It is much, much easier to cure cancer in mice then to translate this knowledge to human cancer.
iLife
I hope steve will carry on living for as long as possible.
I wish him the best of luck and a lot of courage in his fight against his hillness.
I hope steve will carry on living for as long as possible.
I wish him the best of luck and a lot of courage in his fight against his hillness.
Apple will fail without Steve
I hate to say it, but Apple post-Steve will likely be an utter failure. Think Apple, circa 1995.
Lets face it people, Steve is on his way out. I am a doctor, and no matter what you have heard about Pancreatic cancer, EVERYONE who gets it dies within 5 years (or sooner). (Saying Steve has "the good type" of Pancreatic cancer is like saying "at least they dropped a tactical nuke on my house, and not a real nuke")
Apple needs a charismatic figure to rise up the ranks and fill the void, or Apple will crash and burn.
-propynyl
I hate to say it, but Apple post-Steve will likely be an utter failure. Think Apple, circa 1995.
Lets face it people, Steve is on his way out. I am a doctor, and no matter what you have heard about Pancreatic cancer, EVERYONE who gets it dies within 5 years (or sooner). (Saying Steve has "the good type" of Pancreatic cancer is like saying "at least they dropped a tactical nuke on my house, and not a real nuke")
Apple needs a charismatic figure to rise up the ranks and fill the void, or Apple will crash and burn.
-propynyl
I feel bad for him and his family. Their is so much pressure on him to be the face of Apple.
I have a bad feeling some thing much worse is happening to him. I don't see him coming back at least not as CEO.
Actually for him. This is the best time to step down from Apple. Apple is at it's best. They have wowed the public continuously for the last few years with
iTunes, iPod, OS X, iPhone. They are financially strong and stable.
I have a bad feeling some thing much worse is happening to him. I don't see him coming back at least not as CEO.
Actually for him. This is the best time to step down from Apple. Apple is at it's best. They have wowed the public continuously for the last few years with
iTunes, iPod, OS X, iPhone. They are financially strong and stable.
I know that I overhead something about a breakthrough that happened a few days ago. I guess I was wrong.
Umm hi Gabe. You apparently haven't been paying attention. Just after Steve's bout with cancer things RAPIDLY changed at Apple. I can't list them all but switch to Intel, stingy with extras in most of their products, locating any way to snake a few extra bucks from existing users. (Pay to upgrade your touch? N upgrade?) Etc. All of this is designed around one and only one goal. Empire building. Laying a foundation for what happens when Jobs leaves the company....one way or another. Apple has already changed. They dropped the line think different to think corporate. To a certain extent I can understand and appreciate this. Jobs want to make sure there is a company once he leaves. More power too him. I'm just not thrilled on the way he went about it.
At any rate. I may not like Steve Jobs. In point of fact I think he's a d bag. However that in no way, shape, or form makes me wish for him to die, suffer, or become ill. I hope he's alright.