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I hate to say it, but Apple post-Steve will likely be an utter failure. Think Apple, circa 1995.
It's not impossible, but I doubt it, or at least it will take a long time. Apple has a lot of great products and I'm sure more in development that we don't know about yet. And let's not forget 20-something-billion dollars in the bank and no debt. You can coast a long time on that, although I hope they don't coast. And, they have a lot of very smart, very talented people in the company not named Steve Jobs. If Jobs is out long-term, then they will need to adapt, and find a leader, but they can survive and even thrive for a long time.
 
Let's hope that Steve is in denial because if he ever does accept that the fight is over then it probably will be!

Someone once said, "if a man thinks he's going to die then he will usually find a way to make it happen!" I for one hope that he's not ready to depart just yet as he has so much more to give and deserves to enjoy what he has worked so hard to achieve when he does finally retire.

I for one am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his announcements. Remember, this is a guy who is hugely energetic, single-minded and creative by nature and I'm not surprised if he is not prepared to be told by anyone that he can't go to work or that he needs to rest. I guess that those he trusts most have finally convinced him to take a step back for a while.

In any event, Apple will regroup and will continue to succeed, of that I have no doubt. Apple has some of the most talented and creative professionals on the planet and it is an insult to them to suggest that Apple is dead without Steve at the helm. Even the captain of the starship Enterprise is replaceable for heavens sake!! :D

I'll close by wishing Steve a speedy recovery and I hope to see him up on the stage in the summer with a big beer-gut and a nice tan! :cool:

All the best,
Craig.
 
Steve Jobs and Apple Are Not One and the Same

I want to start by wishing Steve the best in his recovery. He is truly a visionary in the tech field.

That being said, I think that it is unfair to place such an emphasis on this move. Steve Jobs, as much as we hate to admit, is not immortal. There will be a day when all us Apple Fanboys will have to face a Jobs-less Apple. And as much as Jobs has been fundamental in many of the revolutionary devices that the company has released since his return, chances are that there is more than one bright, creative individual who embodies the Apple spirit. This break may be the time for such characters to emerge from the woodwork and bring forth their ideas which may not have been expressed under Steve's watch.

We need to begin to separate Jobs and Apple, as hard as it may be. They are not one and the same.
 
Are you all out of your minds? What would you say if you were seriously ill, and people in this forum made fun of you? Stop digging his grave and talking him into it, goddamn!

Dear Mr Jobs, if you read this—don't listen to the morons who cry over their stocks and firewire ports.



Lets face it people, Steve is on his way out. I am a doctor, and no matter what you have heard about Pancreatic cancer, EVERYONE who gets it dies within 5 years (or sooner). (Saying Steve has "the good type" of Pancreatic cancer is like saying "at least they dropped a tactical nuke on my house, and not a real nuke"). Apple needs a charismatic figure to rise up the ranks and fill the void, or Apple will crash and burn.

-propynyl


A balanced, refreshingly realistic and non-biased post, propynyl. Your prognosis (though bleak) is unfortunately true for the majority of pancreatic cancer "survivors", as I can personally attest to. The "5 years" timeframe is about right; there is no such thing as a "good type" of pancreatic cancer, sadly.

Instead of shrouding his situation in secrecy, I hope Steve can take advantage of his fame and popularity to raise greater awareness of pancreatic cancer.
 
I hate to say it, but Apple post-Steve will likely be an utter failure. Think Apple, circa 1995.
-propynyl

It's not quite that simple. Apple had a lousy management team in the '90s. Some of them were basically incompetent (without mentioning names :).

The executive team now is much more talented.
 
I don't see doom without Steve. I actually welcome the change sans Steve dying and I would like to see where things go without him. I am very disappointed in the products and the prices minus the Touch of late. Although the Touch has a lot of down sides too.
 
I just wanted to point out a couple of things (first with the caveat that I am not Steve Jobs's physician and I have no personal knowledge of the case; however, I am an academic physician at a major medical center)

1) We simply cannot assume that Steve Jobs's diagnosis was (or is) completely known. The list of things that can cause someone to lose weight after a Whipple procedure is very long, and the testing for some of the possibilities is not always reliable. Clearly he has been losing weight for months, but his physicians may very well have been searching for the entire time before coming up with a diagnosis and treatment plan. Among the many possibilities is a recurrence of cancer, though other causes are in fact more likely.

2) If the diagnosis is not known, then prognosis is almost impossible to predict in a case like this. We still don't know enough to guess whether he is in fact dying, or going to make a complete recovery (or anywhere in between).

Therefore, allegations of "painting an unrealistic picture" or "major communication breakdown" are speculative at best. Either is possible, but so is the possibility that Steve is telling the truth and attempting to minimize the effect of his health issues (which are personal) on the company and shareholders.

3) Steve is clearly a brilliant man in his own field. I have treated many brilliant men (and women) and can confidently say that being brilliant does not necessarily translate into being medically knowledgeable nor savvy. Any patient presented with a confusing diagnostic picture must be confident in the final diagnosis and likely will seek multiple opinions (and appropriately so...) before deciding on treatment options.

I recommend that we take him at his word, and wish him the best.

For myself, all I can do is wait. Overall, Apple should do well regardless of Steve Job's future involvement, in large part due to his past involvement.

Congrats. I'm proud of you. Well, I'm also a physician at a major university hospital too. That said, Jobs did indeed say that doctors finally found out his diagnosis (and his "simple" treatment too) in letter #1 (so, we don't have to assume this - he told us so). So, either he wasn't listening to them properly, they were talking over his head, or they didn't know what the heck they were talking about. Fast forward one week later and all the sudden everything is more "complex". You know, as well as I know, that medicine doesn't work that fast.

As for the "speculation at best comment," this is MacRUMORS - get over it.
 
The only thing that worries me is that Apple has not been successful without Jobs. Hoping for the best.

Well, NeXT was never successful (financially) with Jobs.

People need to stop being so hysterical. Yes, he is a great visionary, but to put all of our emphasis on him and his creative talents, totally marginalizes the contributions of all the talented programmers, hardware designers, interface gurus, etc. at Apple.

Do you really think Jobs is solely responsible for EVERY aspect of Apple's success??? He took a very messed up company and turned it around thanks in large part to the incredible technology developed at NeXT. That was Apple's biggest problem back in the 90s. Their technology sucked and their next generation OS, Taligent, was a dismal failure. NeXT tech saved the day.

I sincerely hope that Jobs recovers, but given what (little) we know about his medical history, I'm doubtful.

My best wishes to he and his family during this difficult time!
 
I is amazing to me that some here can think Steve smart enough to have made Apple what it is but some how is so stupid as to have not prepared those around him for his eventual absence ... Stop thinking about your and my AAPL stock and pray for him and his family if you believe in a God and send well wishes if you do not.
 
I hate to say it, but Apple post-Steve will likely be an utter failure. Think Apple, circa 1995.

Lets face it people, Steve is on his way out. I am a doctor, and no matter what you have heard about Pancreatic cancer, EVERYONE who gets it dies within 5 years (or sooner). (Saying Steve has "the good type" of Pancreatic cancer is like saying "at least they dropped a tactical nuke on my house, and not a real nuke")

Apple needs a charismatic figure to rise up the ranks and fill the void, or Apple will crash and burn.

-propynyl

Apple went what 15 years without Steve. OK, so yeah Apple was in trouble at the time, and IMO Steve is the best man for the job, but to say that a company's future is all dependent on 1 person is just mad. How many corporations had a CEO step down from day to day, and how many of them failed because of that?

Is MS now on the outs because Gates retired, no.

I like Steve, but he is just a figure head. This is not some strange cult of needy engineers. I am fairly certain that everyone else at Apple will not forget how to design and build hardware and software.

I do wish Steve the best. He is a CEO in a league of his own. Steve did wonderful things to help pull Apple out of the gutter. He of course did not re-raise Apple all by himself.
 
Bye bye apple within 5 years.

Well, it took Steve 10 years to fix apple.

Wonder how long it will take for them to break it again? I bet 5 years
 
Poor guy. He's still quite young, relatively speaking. Cancer is a real bitch, even after the disease itself has gone.

So I wonder... what will happen in 6 months time... he likes to keep himself to himself so will we be wishing him well on his trip to the great Apple in the sky, or will he do a Jesus and come back fit as a fiddle and all like "behold, I have been reborn"? The latter suits his character, the former suits the sad reality of life. Pretty much 50/50, IMO. We'll have to wait and see.

Best wishes to Steve and his family.


P.S. Those who are saying that if he leaves / dies Apple will fail. No. Yes, it'll be a very sad event and they might struggle for a bit, and whilst you can replace a position you can't replace an individual like that. But I'm sure the other managers of Apple haven't been sat on their thumbs learning nothing all this time - he'll have taught them a heck of a lot.

When Steve went the first time, it was due to some arrogant backstabber (that he hired!) who wanted him out and effectively sacked him, and started taking the company his way. The wrong way, obviously. I doubt they'll make the same mistake twice.
 
very very sad

ive been really happy becoming a Mac user since Nov '02 , it's been such a great experience with all the company has been through and all the things I been through as well. This is not the news I wanted to hear after all these years.

I never forget when I saw him at the Apple store in SOHO-I hope that Mr. Jobs is on the road to recovery.:apple:
 
Well, it took Steve 10 years to fix apple.

Wonder how long it will take for them to break it again? I bet 5 years

Agreed. If all the people who made Apple's past mistakes are still there, with nobody but Steve doing a good job to counteract them.

Luckily that's not the case--Apple's leadership has changed, and Steve is not the only talent on board.

If Steve does not "see us all this summer" as he hopes, Apple will undergo a change. Some good and some bad things will result, but the products we rely on will still be there, still improving in the same competent hands they have been. And a new CEO will bring her/his own weaknesses--AND strengths--to the mix. And another CEO after that. It happens.

I like much of what Steve Jobs has done and hope to see much more--but he didn't do them alone.

His personal health for his OWN sake is the bigger story here. And we won't know much more about that for some time to come.
 
This is even worse than the Time magazine article on Jobs that claimed Steve thought up all the Apple designs and concepts. It isn't true.
The f***ing idiot day traders don't get it, Steve is an executive, he did not create the Mac or the iPod. He is important to the company, but his leave of absence will have very little affect on the end product.
Steve is part of Apple, he is not Apple. But I do hope he gets better so the stock will go up, and he will once again get a One More Thing.

(I am just really upset my stocks are tanking.)
 
Best wishes to Steve, but people gotta realize that most of the brilliant ideas that made Apple this big didn't actually come from Steve himself. He was a genius to recognize these ideas immediately and get them realized before others did. iPod + iTunes store combo was a 3rd party idea as far as I know.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to Steve and his family.

This is what the focus should be on until we see the signs of any other windfall at Apple.

Keep the positive thoughts out there so that Steve will get better, resume the helm, and grow Apple to what we ALL want it to progress to.

The stock will rebound, especially with the new products in the Queue! It is time for all of us Mac-fanatics and Apple lovers to stand tall for Steve!
 
Steve is an executive, he did not create the Mac or the iPod. He is important to the company, but his leave of absense will have very little affect on the end product.
Steve is part of Apple, he is not Apple.

A leave of absence will NOT affect the company or end product, but his leave period will...

We'll start seeing computers with a decent number of I/O ports.
 
Well, it took Steve 10 years to fix apple.

Wonder how long it will take for them to break it again? I bet 5 years

where's the faith?

it's not 10 years or before that so have some faith in the company and the other talented folks. Times have changed with apple (itunes, ipod, iphone). They're in a better place already.
 
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