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Steve Jobs Taking New Medical Leave of Absence
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These posts make it sound as if Apple operates at the whims of Jobs. This is ridiculous.
A succession plan was put in place after Jobs took his first leave. You can bank on it.
As for what's ahead in 2010 and beyond, Apple has a product roadmap that was created by its executive team and Apple will enact that plan whether or not Jobs is at the helm.
EDIT: Good article just crossed my Twitter feed.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/01...bs/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Isn't that what you are saying the creator is? Something that came from nothing? To me it would seem you either believe it is possible that something comes form nothing or that it isn't. Furthermore, believing that it is possible does not define what things may or may not have come from nothing and there is nothing intrinsic in the theory that something CAN come from nothing that would limit it to being only possible for the creator of our universe. Perhaps there is a creator, and perhaps it to was created. Sooner or later you either have to conclude that there was a first thing, which I agree would seem impossible, or you have to conclude that you cannot understand, which is I feel is more likely. It is not your fault that you don't understand infinity and zero, neither do I, they are inherently beyond our capacity.
Time for steve to hand off the torch and enjoy life with his family. Hopefully he can still be involved in a smaller capacity. Tim Cook can do the job. Plenty of great folks at apple to keep things rolling. Wish for a speedy recovery steve!
So many things to respond to here.....
This is probably true. I suspect the company, Apple, will continue to exist for some time after Steve Jobs has left.
And you have some particular insight as to who the next CEO will be? You have foresight as to what vision / leadership that particular individual will have? That "stupid board" could very well make a similar move, when Steve Jobs is gone.
Too many products?!!? You mean like an iPhone, an iPad, multiple versions of the iPod, a desktop model computer, multiple versions of laptop computers, a unique operating system for both the iPhone and iPad - as well as for computers, not to mention the software portion of the company (iTunes, iWorks suite, iPhoto, etc.) holy cow the wide and varied line of Apple products in 2011 is certainly much much larger than what they offered back in the non-Jobs days.
True, he didn't do all that - but he did CONTROL all that. He was the ring-leader, the man at the top, the head honcho. He made the decisions on what products were released, how they were released, etc. I am sure there are some really fun rooms over there at Apple where there are some amazing products that have been produced and never seen the light of day. Whether the amazing product line continues beyond Steve Jobs is speculative, at best, right now.
I am sure that they didn't think the products they released during the non-Jobs era were "crappy" either.
I wouldn't recommend any stock dumping right now. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Apple's stock value drop, should Jobs permanently leave the company.
This is probably true. I suspect the company, Apple, will continue to exist for some time after Steve Jobs has left.
And you have some particular insight as to who the next CEO will be? You have foresight as to what vision / leadership that particular individual will have? That "stupid board" could very well make a similar move, when Steve Jobs is gone.
Too many products?!!? You mean like an iPhone, an iPad, multiple versions of the iPod, a desktop model computer, multiple versions of laptop computers, a unique operating system for both the iPhone and iPad - as well as for computers, not to mention the software portion of the company (iTunes, iWorks suite, iPhoto, etc.) holy cow the wide and varied line of Apple products in 2011 is certainly much much larger than what they offered back in the non-Jobs days.
True, he didn't do all that - but he did CONTROL all that. He was the ring-leader, the man at the top, the head honcho. He made the decisions on what products were released, how they were released, etc. I am sure there are some really fun rooms over there at Apple where there are some amazing products that have been produced and never seen the light of day. Whether the amazing product line continues beyond Steve Jobs is speculative, at best, right now.
I am sure that they didn't think the products they released during the non-Jobs era were "crappy" either.
I wouldn't recommend any stock dumping right now. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Apple's stock value drop, should Jobs permanently leave the company.
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I'm not trying to argue, just present an option, but perhaps people are glad he finally took some time off to be with his family and focus on his health, instead of just on Apple, I mean, it was clearly taking it's toll on him.
LagunaSol said:
The self-loathing haters ever lurk.
Thanks for the mature, intelligent insight.
Keep thinking that. If anything, with $50 billion in the bank, the shares are still very undervalued. Their P/E is barely higher than the flatlined company Microsoft (no room left for significant growth) and is a fraction of Amazon's, even without all that cash factored in.
We'll see you back at $500.
Best wishes to Steve and his family. May he recover speedily. That said, Apple will continue on course. While Steve is certainly the propeller of progress at Apple, at times he's also an anchor. I've often wondered if the company could go even higher without his obsessive level of control sometimes dampening the possibilities. I guess we'll find out...someday.
The good news is Tim Cook is no Steve Ballmer. In a very, very positive way.
I'm not trying to argue, just present an option, but perhaps people are glad he finally took some time off to be with his family and focus on his health, instead of just on Apple, I mean, it was clearly taking it's toll on him.
All good points , but I think this is more of a Get Well thread.
Your points are a little off topic I guess.
Hope Steve takes this time to reflect on his life and look at the whole picture before he makes any decisions
Actually, this is not the first time Tim Cook has been in charge. When he was in charge last time the company did very well.
Maybe you should actually look at the history before commenting.
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I found this interesting -- from Gruber.
Steve Jobs. It can be argued, Gruber maintains, that Steve Jobs' most important product -- the thing he's spent the better part of his energy building since he returned to Apple -- is not the Mac, the iPod, the iPhone or even the iPad. It's Apple Inc., the company. The pessimistic dig on Apple, says Gruber, is that it's a supremely well-organized company organized around one irreplaceable guy. The optimistic view is that Jobs has structured it to run like his other company, Pixar, which manages to turn out hit after hit, year after year, without a charismatic celebrity leader.
I like this because I agree with the optimistic point of view -- I haven't been disappointed by any Pixar film post-Jobs. It does prove that the culture can continue and it also gives hope that Steve hired specific people because they have equally visionary ideas
Steve Jobs. It can be argued, Gruber maintains, that Steve Jobs' most important product -- the thing he's spent the better part of his energy building since he returned to Apple -- is not the Mac, the iPod, the iPhone or even the iPad. It's Apple Inc., the company. The pessimistic dig on Apple, says Gruber, is that it's a supremely well-organized company organized around one irreplaceable guy. The optimistic view is that Jobs has structured it to run like his other company, Pixar, which manages to turn out hit after hit, year after year, without a charismatic celebrity leader.
I like this because I agree with the optimistic point of view -- I haven't been disappointed by any Pixar film post-Jobs. It does prove that the culture can continue and it also gives hope that Steve hired specific people because they have equally visionary ideas
I hope he gets well soon.
Beyond the human reaction, which should go without saying really, in the context of Apple I might disagree with some decisions Jobs makes but it's difficult to ignore how visionary he has been with most of his work. Long may it continue (...in general, except for the things I disagree with! )
Beyond the human reaction, which should go without saying really, in the context of Apple I might disagree with some decisions Jobs makes but it's difficult to ignore how visionary he has been with most of his work. Long may it continue (...in general, except for the things I disagree with!
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For all we know, he's already been on leave. With up to 4 apple events over the next 6 months (iPad 2, new Mbps, iOS 5, iPhone 5) and the financial call tomorrow, it makes more sense to announce this now than explain away hid absence at all of these. It could be cancer again, trouble with his organ, etc.
One thing I get the impression of is that he won't retire. He'll dictate product plans from his death bed even if he's not acting CEO. At least, that's my impression.
One thing I get the impression of is that he won't retire. He'll dictate product plans from his death bed even if he's not acting CEO. At least, that's my impression.
I think he is going to take some time to decide which App to buy with his dollar salary he just earned with another year as CEO. Choose carefully Steve. Pick a good one.
Seriously though. I hope its just rest he needs and that this is not something serious.
May all those currently convalescing have a speedy recovery and a great 2011!
Seriously though. I hope its just rest he needs and that this is not something serious.
May all those currently convalescing have a speedy recovery and a great 2011!
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Having a family member battling cancer, I can say this much:
Pancreatic cancer, then a liver transplant and now this LOA likely means his cancer has metastized. Not a great prognosis if true.
Best wishes Steve.
Having a family member battling cancer, I can say this much:
Pancreatic cancer, then a liver transplant and now this LOA likely means his cancer has metastized. Not a great prognosis if true.
Best wishes Steve.
A lot can happen in 6 months. It can either go north or south. Hope Steve Jobs get better. I'm surprised AAPL is up $2.80 a share at the moment. Better keep an eye on it later this week.
We all need a break from time to time & the one thing we can all agree with , Steve has earned his. We will be praying for you & your return. Get well soon.