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Steve Jobs to Kick Off WWDC with Preview of Mac OS X "Tiger"

Photorun said:
Oh please please PLEASE return networking like it was under JagWIRE (Job's pronunciation) you know back when you could actually browse and see the other Macs on your network, not have to type in their IP addresses (which is dumb).
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You can do this ... bring up a finder window and click on "Network" in the sidebar. One of the recent minor updates (10.3.3, I think) made it so when you mount a server this way, it shows up on the desktop like back in 10.2 (which seems to be the functionality you want).

I think it would be nice if they worked this into the Apple-K method, but eh -- it's still there, just in a different place.
 
Analog Kid said:
Can't you just do that by making a folder that you keep in the sidebar and command option dragging to it? That's all favorites was in the first place...
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Exactly my thoughts. :) The old "Favorites" folder is even located in the same place still. Go to your user directory, open "Library", and then drag the "Favorites" folder onto the Finder toolbar or the left-hand icon bar. It'll even remember the heart icon, despite the fact that the folder itself just looks like another folder.

If you add it to the left bar, it's even available in all open/save dialogs.

Seems that the Finder's relatively customizable... not sure why people are looking for that as a feature?
 
hayesk said:
Impressive, but how often do people boot their machines these days. Doesn't everyone just put them to sleep every day.
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I would bet most laptop users do until something goes wrong, or they need to do a software update.

Personally I wish people paid more attention to their computers and rebooted on a regular basis, especially the people with 256mb of ram or less. Even the docks memory goes up the more you use it (especially with magnification), and you never reclaim most of that memory until you reboot.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
How can an acronym have itself in its definition.
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Self-referencing acronyms are common throughout the *NIX world.

My favorite computer acronym is not self-referencing, but unique nonetheless: TWAIN - Technology Without An Interesting Name
 
pjkelnhofer said:
I disagree. I see know reason why Apple Tiger would not run on a G3. I full expect to be upgrading my G3 iMac (350MHz) to Tiger in the fall. Why makes you think otherwise?
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My suspicion that it will probably use Quartz Extreme to a greater degree.

I read somewhere that Apple is prepping an OS centred advertising campaign. Presumably that means flashy new effects.

I run Panther on the same machine as you, and it is reasonably quick; but at some point Apple will want to give us a reason to buy new computers.
 
Foocha said:
How about System Restore functionality like in XP - this is unbelievable, it actually works!!

Also, centralised Software Unistall - probably in system preferences. An easy way to unistall an app and all that came with it - libraries etc. It would need developer support, but the sooner they add it, the sooner developers can get on board with it.
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Yuk! System Restore is the first thing I turn off when configuring XP. How about this for Tiger: Can I please finally choose Copy, Cut, or Paste when I right click on a mouse. Is there a 3rd party program that does this basic neanderthal function?
 
Foocha said:
Top of my wish list is the ability to launch multiple instances of the Finder, so that if your Finder freezes, you can start working with another instance
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that's what i'm looking forward also.

Foocha said:
I also would like to see closer integration between Safari, the Finder, iTunes and iPhoto, so that when you click on your Pictures folder, the Finder becomes an iPhoto window, and the iPhoto style window of scaleable thumbnails becomes a new view option for any folder. Likewise, when you click on ~/Music you should get an iTunes window. Finally, there should be a URL bar in the Finder, which allows you to enter any URL - ftp, http, smb, afp. A button should let you toggle between WebDav folder view and Safari-style Web browsing.
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

i really like the idea of finder simply being an "itunes for files". if apple decides to go the microsoft route, i will simply not upgrade. panther finder is far superior to windows explorer because it's simple and doesn't try to be every ***** app you have installed in the system.

it's great that osx has specialized apps for each task and not one try-to-do-it-all-but-fail-miserably kind of app.
 
mustang_dvs said:
Self-referencing acronyms are common throughout the *NIX world.

My favorite computer acronym is not self-referencing, but unique nonetheless: TWAIN - Technology Without An Interesting Name
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My favorite...probably because it's just so uninformative is PHP, which stands for "PHP Hypertext Processor"
 
Agathon said:
I'm guessing that the system requirements for Tiger will be quite stiff. No more running OS X on that old imac G3 350.
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i have panther running great on one of those cute things - even if it performed worse than panther, i don't think tiger will be so much heavier that it wouldn't run as nicely than jaguar.

some models were not supported with panther because they lacked some key technologies. the support drop wasn't because of cpu performance. i think the weakest link with crt imacs is the graphics card, but i'd be amazed if tiger required more than they can offer.
 
Agathon said:
I run Panther on the same machine as you, and it is reasonably quick; but at some point Apple will want to give us a reason to buy new computers.
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Yeah, it was called going to OS X.
 
eSnow said:
a resolution-independent UI.
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that's on my wish list too. it'd be great if apple specified ui elements width by millimeters and not by pixels, and let the screen resolution scale the same way the printing does.

that'd enable the use of really high resolution lcd:s which are quite costly for the time being. (and i'm not talking about the displays dell uses in its laptops, but real high-end displays used in medical instruments. they talk about +600dpi in there, compared to this powerbook's about 100dpi.)

oh yeah, i'd like to have that G5 powerbook to have a 300dpi display ;)
 
dontmatter said:
Wrong. Nothing is more impressive than having no idea how long it takes to boot up, b/c you never need to turn your computer off ;). Now, maybe (although it would be a stupid feature) they could make some way of installing software without rebooting, so we can brag to windows users, no, I haven't turned my computer off since installed the OS....
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You had ever had to administer a server, you would know that not having to reboot is far from a stupid feature.

This is one of many areas where Linux still beats OS X hands down.
Just about the only time you have to reboot a Linux box for a software update is when you actually are updating to a new OS kernel. You can easily go for more than a year without ever rebooting a Linux machine.
OS X has to be rebooted almost monthly.

Apple needs to fix this or it will remain in the bush league of the server market.
 
Foocha said:
How about System Restore functionality.
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already exists - just put in your panther cd and re-install the system.

in reality XP system restore is the worst implementation i have ever seen - it eats hard drive space faster than you could ever imagine and when something goes wrong, the restore database is already so bloated that if it actually manages to restore the system, the process takes ages.

i'd rather re-install the system and have it working fast. XP restore is full of crap. believe me, i've tried it at work where my XP workstation crashed, and at the end of the day our it personnel decided to order me a new pc.
 
hayesk said:
Splash screen doesn't mean the app is loaded.
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no it doesn't, and that also doesn't mean app isn't loaded if it just isn't visible in the task bar. after the bootup, every app you load windows keeps in memory "for faster second launch" but because they still have the 80's way of handling memory (everything above 16MB will be flushed into virtual memory thus freeing up more memory) the app still has to be loaded from the memory, only that it's mostly loaded from the swap file that is contiguous and thus faster to handle.

in osx if you try to do the same that windows does, you don't quit your apps but rather just close the window. if you then try to open an already opened app, it will be virtually instantly on. if you just have enough ram, everything is really fast.
 
JoeMacDaddy said:
It would be a big step for Apple to re-enter the enterprise with built in WINE support.
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do you even know what you are talking about? wine is a subset of windows API:s that allow most windows programs to be run on linux, but when those apps are run they inherit the GUI from the windows API:s and look like windows.

i wouldn't want to see osx opening windows-like windows. virtualPC kind of apps keep things separate, which is nice, but please, no wine for osx!
 
Simple things I'd like to see:

1.) Fix labels so they work like OS9 just coloring the folder and not that god-awful 3-d bubble nonsense. It's distracting and impossible to use in any practical way.

2.) Take Expose further. Add a button to the Finder toolbar that allows you to minimize the window into a tiny version of the same window that floats in the finder like all windows, and can be moved around and double clicked for access.

Moreover, release a new keyboard with dedicated Expose buttons (and a god-d@mned two-button mouse already Apple!!!! Helloooo!)

3.) Clean up the interface. It's time to go back to form following function. Keep the metal if you want, but make it more compact! Stop taking up so damn much room with buttons and scrollbars and finder windows etc. This could all be customizable, so each user gets what he wants.

4.) Double Decker Dock - top row of dock split in two, one side that contains any documents/folders you want - the other side contains all active documents.

Bottom row of dock split in two, one side dedicated to any applications you want dragged in there, the other side dedicated to all open applications.

Make the dock thinner, so it takes up the same amount of space. Also make this completely customizable so the users can have what they want.

5.) Man, fix that font book mess. What were you people thinking?

6.) Allow multiple work enviroments for one user via multiple Finders. I would love to have one Finder where I am working on Photoshop files. One where I am working on HTML coding another where I am surfing the web. It would take care of the clutter problem that OSX so easily suffers from. And you could use that nifty spinning cube effect to go between them.

7.) Make a new icon for application installers. I hate that weird open cardboard box icon. What's up with that lazy crap?

I'm sure there is more...but that would be a start for me and get my $129 easily.


Joe
 
areyouwishing said:
Personally I wish people paid more attention to their computers and rebooted on a regular basis.
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do you say that unix server administrators are stupider computer users than regular joe using windows? unix servers are planned having 5min downtime each year, so that's what apple should also be targetting.

in work where i have to use windows, i most likely have to have that 5min downtime twice a day every day. that's not paying more attention to anything but windows design flaws.
 
lem0nayde said:
fix that font book mess. What were you people thinking?
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there's definetely much room for improvements. not feature-wise, but the performance is awful. try putting in 1000+ fonts and your system crawls to death...

i'm not asking to kill suitcase, but i'd really like decent performance with about 500-1000 fonts.

(and i don't mind if it takes a minute to enable/disable fonts, but i don't like the idea of a thousand fonts making a powerbook cry for help...)
 
Ok, I said Text-to-Speech is going to be introduced, but it was a screen reader. I almost made it, no need to mock at me ;)
 
Time to pay my taxes

Oh dear. I guess it's time to start thinking about paying my annual OS X subscription along with my .mac subscription. I've tried to hold off paying the relatively recent iLife subscription but iPhoto really is beginning to creak and needs replacement. Add all of this to Apple hardware exclusivity tax (thankfully a one off payment) and I start wondering if the mac experience is really offering me good value for money.

Yes I know, nobody's forcing me to upgrade my OS but for how long will Apple provide Panther-compatible upgrades of Safari after Tiger is released?
 
JFreak said:
...in osx if you try to do the same that windows does, you don't quit your apps but rather just close the window. if you then try to open an already opened app, it will be virtually instantly on. if you just have enough ram, everything is really fast.
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This is something Apple should address some how. When I first switched, this was one of my fears (that windows seemed snappier). New windows machines launch programs rather quickly. It is perceived to the end user that windows is a faster machine. Once you learn how OS X works, then you realize that both machines are compariable in speed (for the most part anyway). If I didn't do as much studying on as I did, I'd still have a windows box. The GUI seems much more snappy than OS X.
 
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