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PHP stands for "PHP Hypertext Preprocessor". A more common example of a recursive acronym.
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Steve Jobs to Kick Off WWDC with Preview of Mac OS X "Tiger"
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PHP stands for "PHP Hypertext Preprocessor". A more common example of a recursive acronym.
Well I am pumped. I will prob have to pre-order the day it comes out. I hope the new features can speed up the OS, although it is pretty good right now. I love yearly updates, they make this so fun. Its $100 dollars I will gladly pay. Woot! I am excited.
On a sadder and unrealted note. DHL has lost my iPod Mini I believe. It has taken 3 days for an overnight shipment. All they can tell me is that it left OH on 4/29 and is "In Transit." Ugh. Even if they do repay me for it, it is a 6 week wait at least to get the new one.
*goes and cries*
On a sadder and unrealted note. DHL has lost my iPod Mini I believe. It has taken 3 days for an overnight shipment. All they can tell me is that it left OH on 4/29 and is "In Transit." Ugh. Even if they do repay me for it, it is a 6 week wait at least to get the new one.
*goes and cries*
Vonnie said:
I don't thinl Apple will open Cocoa... Cocoa is an extension of the OpenStep reference platform API developed by NeXT with Sun (I don'y know if Sun did anything except maybe help fund it), With OS X being at its core an extension and improvment of OPENSTEP (NeXT's implimentation of OpenStep) with things added like Carbon etc to make it more mac like and compatible. But Apple killed OpenStep when they created cocoa, so it will be a suprise, all be it a nice one, if they bring it back. GNUStep is promising however if they can keep up.
Java is pretty good on OS X but could be improved. Fast would always be better...start times are pretty bad. Aqua support is pretty good but lacks many aqua wisgets like draws, search fields etc, and as Swing is based more on what widgets windows has then this will remain a problem. It would be nice if apple made the save dialogs use the native cocoa one and the sheets, which come out the menu bar. Did Apple ever support loading the Java VM at boot time to create faster start times? Faster releases of the new java versions would be nice. Java 1.5 Tiger should be out by the time OS X Tiger comes out at least. Oh Swing support in Interface Builder would be nice. Does code completion work in XCode? I can only get it to complete my methods and not the Java API ones.
The ruby support would be nice. There are Ruby bindings to Cocoa, and GNStep (RIGS) and i belive it works better than Java, but this doesn't help Cross platform unless GNUStep really takes off and chooses to follow Cocoa and not just the OpenStep spec. I dont see GNUStep coming with windows too, though would be a nice choice for a desktop linux, such as IBM's rumured Blue Linux. If apple and ibm joined in this, it would be great in my opinion. Any cross platform ruby look will probably have same problems as Swing in that ir wont look or act like a real os x app.
.NET has similar problems to GNUStep in that it is always playing catch up, and has questionable legalities. Plus do we really want to give developers the excuse to stop the effort of producing cocoa apps and just develop .Net apps, which by default will work better and more native like on windows.
Of all the choices, The reintroduction of a full cocoa compatible OpenStep api seems to be the best option, for os x users at least, but if it will ever see the light of day is questionable.
mustang_dvs said:Commander, you have received a field promotion to the rank of CaptainObvious.
It was a rumor !
JGowan said:
tiger will be the fourth non-beta osx version, and to get more perspective, classic mac os' last four versions were system6 thru os9. those four versions last ten years whereas four osx versions have seen the light in only a few years. so it's totally ok for people to grumble.
do i remember correctly, were the systemX upgrades free? did apple put a price tag for os8 for the first time, or was the system7 also a paid upgrade? i'm almost certain everything before sys7 was free (meaning: paid for within the hardware purchase).
AirUncleP said:
OMG that was hilarious! Maybe they can also build a feature that detects if you've used a windoze machine recently and if so, it mauls all your files and sends your email address to spammers.
areyouwishing said:
areyouwishing said:
now I understood... you're saying to quicken up the loading of apps.
I thought you claimed to remove the bounce animation...
There's a haxie that does it, but I'm not sure about its raison-d'-etre.
Bouncing itself is not much workload to Mac these days.
As I just wrote in another post,
I launch most of apps at login,
so I'm not so much concerned about launch time, though...
I'm not using Photoshop, just Acrobat and
other rather lightweight programs.
Maybe Photoshop is a little too big to have always in (virtual) memory.
Then I understand launch time becomes crucial to you.
Don't worry. Some of us understood that you were pointing out that the rumored name was now a confirmed name.CmdrLaForge said:
Two fixes I'm hoping to see in Tiger:
* In Panther, they finally made it possible to select and copy text in Preview of a PDF, but it doesn't copy the linebreaks to the clipboard properly. I can't believe they blew this so badly. Fix it.
* Resizing of all windows from all sides and corners. Yes, like MS Windows. Apple's GUI has always done it wrong. Windows got it right. Case closed. Fix it.
areyouwishing said:
that doesn't matter because you were talking about osx which is a unix variant. software-wise every osx out here is a unix server, so the 5min/yr target is feasible for apple.
now if we really talk about servers, we need to discuss hardware. ibm power5 anyone?
Iroganai said:
Bouncing can be turned off in the Dock System Preference. Simply UNCHECK "Animate Opening Applications". Turning this "feature" off will accelerate the launch times of everything.
nagromme said:
no, it wasn't. you had to have 10.0 purchased to get 10.1, if my memory serves me right. those who were eager to try out pre-mature operating systems were able to purchase the system bit by bit - wasn't the beta about 30 dollars and the 10.0 whole 129 dollars with a 30 dollar discount for beta customers making it a 99 dollar upgrade for them? and 10.1 being free for 10.0 customers who got sub-par system that didn't offer enough functionality?
jaguar was the first mature osx version. everything before that need to be considered as one package. to prove my point, you can calculate the time it has taken to get from public beta to 10.1, and from 10.1 to jaguar, and from jag to panther... you get the point
no more free os upgrades. it was system7 that put an end to it, again, if i remember correctly.
jackieonasses said:
you're right. the splash screen is just a lame excuse for the time it takes for an app to load itself. we really need much faster hard drives...
i myself will celebrate the day we have no moving parts in computers and no need for power cord
ZildjianKX said:
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What's WITH you people?!? Apple doesn't come out with new products, you bitch and moan. Apple DOES come out with new products, you bitch and moan. If they are really all that bad, go use Windows, ****, and burn in hell with the rest of the poor Redmond-ite saps. Otherwise, shape up, realize that Apple is kicking the hell out of everyone software-wise and accept that having the best technology costs a premium.
</rant>
Apologies to those I have offended, and the above statements are not directed at any individual, not even you Zildjian, I just couldn't take it anymore
JFreak said:no, it wasn't. you had to have 10.0 purchased to get 10.1, if my memory serves me right. those who were eager to try out pre-mature operating systems were able to purchase the system bit by bit - wasn't the beta about 30 dollars and the 10.0 whole 129 dollars with a 30 dollar discount for beta customers making it a 99 dollar upgrade for them? and 10.1 being free for 10.0 customers who got sub-par system that didn't offer enough functionality?
jaguar was the first mature osx version. everything before that need to be considered as one package. to prove my point, you can calculate the time it has taken to get from public beta to 10.1, and from 10.1 to jaguar, and from jag to panther... you get the point
no more free os upgrades. it was system7 that put an end to it, again, if i remember correctly.
10.0: The birth of of OS X, very basic.
10.1: Fixing some bugs in the system, works smoother.
10.2: IT WORKS RIGHT! Also the addition of the digital lifestyle apps (Mail, Sherlock 3, iCal, first Safari, iSync)
10.3: Refining a working animal. Making it all work together.
10.4: This is either going to be more refining of a working animal or they need to find something BIG and blow us away.
It is my personal thoughts that Panther is nothing more than Jaguar with a few new features to it and not worth the upgrade cost while Jaguar was, very easily. 10.4 needs something big to really make it seem worthwhile. I don't want a facelift of the working OS, I want it to have something new and exciting.
applekid said:
give us even hierarchical playlists / photo albums and i'd buy it in a heartbeat
no need to worry, apple tends to offer value for the price it asks for its products, unlike other brands. it is common in pc industry to follow the price everyone asks and offer everything everyone has already thought of, but apple... sheesh, how can they do it? apple tends to ask money for something others will need three years to copy.and i'm not talking about moto cpu performance here
for a hardware company apple creates pretty damn good software...
Trowaman said:
opinions are free
i personally haven't paid for jaguar anymore than panther, because they came bundled with the computers i have purchased. i don't mind apple releasing major revisions to osx every year, it only adds value to the hardware sales they rely their business on. remember, apple is a hardware company...bousozoku said:Go into Dock Preferences and turn off "Animate opening applications" and there aren't any more bounces.
I actually like the bouncing, sometimes on windows i think i double clicked something and i wait for like 2 mins and im like wait, i missed the second click. At least this way i know its opening.
I'm using Panther, but I don't think that I would have upgraded except that I got it for $20 since it came out right after I bought my PowerBook last Fall.
Help/LaunchBar
Ummm...how about 10.4 finally fixing the dreadfully slow loading of Help. Ridiculous.
And on top of that, Steve should buy LaunchBar and add it in. Best interface enhancement ever. Period.
Ted
Ummm...how about 10.4 finally fixing the dreadfully slow loading of Help. Ridiculous.
And on top of that, Steve should buy LaunchBar and add it in. Best interface enhancement ever. Period.
Ted
My guess is that is will have simple improvements for consumers like:
Themes, faster bootup, hopefully hypercard, maybe a simple recording app, virtual desktops.
also Apple wants to grab the Linux crowd - so maybe they will add more support for linux based stuff.
Themes, faster bootup, hopefully hypercard, maybe a simple recording app, virtual desktops.
also Apple wants to grab the Linux crowd - so maybe they will add more support for linux based stuff.
Videos can have a "poster frame" that can be set for this ... granted it's not used with all video files, but QT does support it.jackieonasses said: