I would figure that is because a Gb dongle could saturate the USB bus (and probably use a pretty good amount of CPU too).
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Steve Jobs: USB 3 Not Taking Off At This Time
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I would figure that is because a Gb dongle could saturate the USB bus (and probably use a pretty good amount of CPU too).
Well, of course, USB2 being 480 mbits/sec. Maybe if Macs had USB3...
Thus bringing the conversation full circle
Amongst others, here is one generic...
http://www.areca.us/products/esatafirewire800iscsiaoeusb.htm
...and one for Macs, specifically...
http://www.caldigit.com/AVDrive/
So, yes, it is a valid argument. Just an FYI, Areca's RAID drivers are built in to OS X
It's not a compromise, it's a joke! I find it stunningly rude that the fastest bridge to the new MBA is USB 2.0. Basically, it's a $1000 marketing test (your coin)
And how do you propose they offer gigabit speeds over an external dongle ?
Even FW800 wouldn't cover it.
And how do you propose they offer gigabit speeds over an external dongle ?
Even FW800 wouldn't cover it.
Certainly, I don't propose they do. In the technical sense it is a compromise. In the "value" sense it is absurd.
Only if Gigabit Ethernet is a requirement for you. Wireless networking has pretty much done away with it for the majority of people though.
I sure as hell ain't wiring my house now that I have 802.11n accross the board.
True. I need gigabit against my backups and shared content folders. I have N for visiting laptops.
He is talking crazy again, medication to hight. Building a new gaming rig every motherboard has USB 3.0.
Flash with USB 3.0 are already out, external HD with USB 3.0 are out, get your fact right Steve. Camera I have not seen yet but have had no reason to think it will be that much faster to download pics with USB 3, maybe video but not pics.
Does he really think people can look this stuff up.
Steve Jobs might be many things but a moron is definitely not one of them, you'd have to be a real ass to think so.
He is talking crazy again, medication to hight. Building a new gaming rig every motherboard has USB 3.0.
Flash with USB 3.0 are already out, external HD with USB 3.0 are out, get your fact right Steve. Camera I have not seen yet but have had no reason to think it will be that much faster to download pics with USB 3, maybe video but not pics.
Does he really think people can look this stuff up.
which part of your post makes sense?
Actually only the first product offers RAID 5 the second product being a single disk product, and Areca isn't certified by the USB-IF, which was my point...
Consumer products that need the throughput and are certified (which consumer should look for)... Not many right now.
And how do you propose they offer gigabit speeds over an external dongle ?
Even FW800 wouldn't cover it.
DisplayPort 1.2 can have ethernet embedded in it. You could easily make a mini-DisplayPort to gigabit ethernet adapter, if Apple supported it on the connector. (I don't know if they put ethernet lines in the port on the MacBooks, but I doubt they do.)
I really don't care if it ends up being USB 3.0 or lightpeak inside the Mac but we do need to speed things up.
Working off an external drive via USB 2.0 or even firewire 800 just doesn't cut it for HD video. If you have a Mac Pro its not a big deal because you can throw in another internal drive assuming you have an empty bay left.
As for iMac and MacBook owners its a different story. Its nice that you can finally get an SSD with an internal HDD now in the iMac but for those requiring more drives there is no other solution other than going with an external USB 2.0/ Firewire 800 drive. That's fine if you're just backing up but even that is starting to feel slow now with how big storage is getting.
As a side note there is always network storage for iMac/ Macbook owners but still isn't very fast either...
Working off an external drive via USB 2.0 or even firewire 800 just doesn't cut it for HD video. If you have a Mac Pro its not a big deal because you can throw in another internal drive assuming you have an empty bay left.
As for iMac and MacBook owners its a different story. Its nice that you can finally get an SSD with an internal HDD now in the iMac but for those requiring more drives there is no other solution other than going with an external USB 2.0/ Firewire 800 drive. That's fine if you're just backing up but even that is starting to feel slow now with how big storage is getting.
As a side note there is always network storage for iMac/ Macbook owners but still isn't very fast either...
I think I pointed that out rather succinctly (bold for emphasis). Don't be so narcissistic.
If you mean that FW800 is good enough -- I agree-- barely.
If you mean USB 2.0 is good enough-- no, it isn't.
Too bad we are apparently going to lose target disk mode &etc. with whatever FW replacement comes along-- I still love target disk mode and other FW features.
USB 3.0 is old...
I'll take Intel's Light Peak 10 Gb/S over USB 3.0. If you want to upgrade let's talk about LIGHT PEAK !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPx1dEIPnA
I'll take Intel's Light Peak 10 Gb/S over USB 3.0. If you want to upgrade let's talk about LIGHT PEAK !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPx1dEIPnA
Kill the optical drive all you want, that's fine. I'm just saying that I need a place to store data, I'd like to use USB 3.0 until we get "korean-style" internet speeds in the good ol' USA.
*facepalm*
You clearly have no clue.
All affordable NAS boxes are unable to surpass USB 2.0 speed. We are talking $500+ RAID cases (sans the drives, of course) if you want even slightly faster speed. Also, you seem to forget that NAS boxes are hardly portable, require external power sources and are 10x more complicated to set up (compared to a simple external hard drive)
*facepalm*
Oh the ignorance.
The connector on the computers looks EXACTLY the same. It's only the device connector that looks different. Not Steve's problem.
Luckily, I'm not cheap enough to use USB 2 for backups
I use FW800, and am perfectly happy with it.
That's great for you. Unfortunately almost no computer (including mine) has this port and I'd really prefer to have the full (=double) data rate, with ubiquitous, backwards compatible ports, instead of some obscure, half-assed solution. So much for things 'not taking off at this time'.