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it doesn't make any sense for Apple to adopt the USB3 standard when the form factor of the connector itself is thicker than the MacBook Air, and the bodies of all their other laptops.

something better and smaller will come around and it will be the way.

The computer ports would remain the same size. 3.0 peripherals would have the thicker port.


Why are there so many posts about "hoping for hdmi in the future lineup"? Isn't DisplayPort a more advanced interface?

Not many companies support DisplayPort. Go to newegg and search for DisplayPort monitors.
 
Your data on this? From what I can tell, people like to brag they spent $5000 on a Mac Pro.

Anecdotes, just like yours right there. There are people that brag about buying Apple's upgrades, but on several forums, I see people say they buy upgrades elsewhere.
 
*takes the popcorn and watches the comments of our beloved Bruce Jobs*

Hey, Bruce guy. Little tip: don't reply people anymore that they have to calm down. That only makes things worse. Best things is, just ignore them. ;)

Other guys: You know Bruce won't answer to straight questions like "When does Lightpeak comes out?" or "Will the new Macbooks have Lightpeak build in?" It's like asking it to Steve. You won't get your answer. Try to ask him stuff around your question and stay vague, so that he has to give some hints. After a while, try to get closer to your questions step by step, but not directly.

Of course, you didn't listen (= read) the paragraph above this one, right, Bruce?
 
He always has reasons. He complained about 3G and battery life when the first iPhone was launched. Then added 3G as BIG feature to the next iPhone.
 
Anecdotes, just like yours right there. There are people that brag about buying Apple's upgrades, but on several forums, I see people say they buy upgrades elsewhere.

But since you used the anecdotes first, I thought it would only be fair for me to defend with an anecdote.

Which is really my point that anecdotes are useless.
 
Your data on this? From what I can tell, people like to brag they spent $5000 on a Mac Pro.

I've been building and overclocking computers for years.

I now have a Mac Pro.

What does that tell you?

And no, I'm not an idiot with money, and nor are 99% of Mac Pro owners, so stop suggesting we are, because it's a stupid assumption.
 
I've been building and overclocking computers for years.

I now have a Mac Pro.

What does that tell you?

And no, I'm not an idiot with money, and nor is 99% of Mac Pro owners, so stop suggesting we are, because it's a stupid assumption.

I've been building and overclocking computers for years too!

I now have a Hackintosh.

What does that tell you?
 
I've been building and overclocking computers for years too!

I now have a Hackintosh.

What does that tell you?

Two options really from my experimentation and research with Hackintoshes:

1. You have too much time on your hands.
2. You couldn't afford a Mac Pro.


Either way, custom builds be it running Windows or (especially) OS X take more time to do than walking into an Apple Store and walking out with a fully functioning Mac Pro.

My Mac Pro cost twice as much as the equiv PC build at the time btw, I don't regret it one bit.
 
Well, on the plus side, for us Mac Pro owners, there are already several PCI-E USB 3.0 cards that support OSX on the market.

For instance, CalDigit makes both a PCI-E card and an Expresscard one for the Macbook Pro crowd. They apparently wrote their own drivers...

I suspect Apple is playing a "Wait and See" game to see whether USB3.0 or Intel's Light-Step (? I think that's what it was called) will be the follow on interconnect. They already got kinda burned with Firewire vs USB once...
 
I've been building and overclocking computers for years too!

I now have a Hackintosh.

What does that tell you?

Tells me that either you couldn't afford or couldn't care less about buying a real Mac. I bet on number two. It all comes down to personal decision. If I could afford it, I would buy a Mac Pro over a hackintosh any day, just for the sake of having a real Mac and not having to worry about updates. But that's just my 2 cents.
 
Apple's wireless trend

Does anyone not see where Apple's future is going?

They are pushing for wireless everything. That's why they don't want to throw in another disc standard like blu ray or another wired standard like USB 3.0.

They said in their presentation last week that they feel the new MBA is going to be the future of computing.

Just look at the device: minimal wired ports, no dvd drive; they are wanting to go in a direction that eliminates pretty much every port on a computer except for probably a dock connector.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple years, the mac book air just has a dock port for charging/ data transfer if one must use a wired cable.

They don't have any plans to stay with an idea that is going the way of the dinosaur. Seriously, mice are next.

just my 2 cents
 
Two options really from my experimentation and research with Hackintoshes:

1. You have too much time on your hands.
2. You couldn't afford a Mac Pro.

Either way, custom builds be it running Windows or (especially) OS X take more time to do than walking into an Apple Store and walking out with a fully functioning Mac Pro.

My Mac Pro cost twice as much as the equiv PC build at the time btw, I don't regret it one bit.

Your deductive reasoning skills blow my mind!

Could it possibly because even though I can afford one, I do not wish to pay 50%+ markups on everything when I have the skills to build my own computer?

You've clearly never done a Hackintosh build if you think it takes a long time to put a PC together and get it Hackintoshed.
 
Does anyone not see where Apple's future is going?

They are pushing for wireless everything. That's why they don't want to throw in another disc standard like blu ray or another wired standard like USB 3.0.

They said in their presentation last week that they feel the new MBA is going to be the future of computing.

Just look at the device: minimal wired ports, no dvd drive; they are wanting to go in a direction that eliminates pretty much every port on a computer except for probably a dock connector.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple years, the mac book air just has a dock port for charging/ data transfer if one must use a wired cable.

They don't have any plans to stay with an idea that is going the way of the dinosaur. Seriously, mice are next.

just my 2 cents

They are pushing? Their wireless is the same or worse (definitely worse than the best wireless routers on the market) than what others have. So, they are definitely not pushing anything. They are just saving $2 on each computer by not including USB 3.0 controller.
 
I have to use the VW - Audi logic here.

Why do you buy an A4 instead of a Jetta? Is it better? Well, no, it's just the same car with premium price and a different casing. People still prefer it though. Why? It's much more attractive and most people believe the fact of it looking good and coming done straight from the shop worth the extra money. It's just how business works. If you don't want to pay for it, I respect your choice and agree that it is more reasonable. However, people who buy an A4 or in this case, a Mac Pro DO have their reasons.
 
Your deductive reasoning skills blow my mind!

Could it possibly because even though I can afford one, I do not wish to pay 50%+ markups on everything when I have the skills to build my own computer?

You've clearly never done a Hackintosh build if you think it takes a long time to put a PC together and get it Hackintoshed.

I don't care if it's a hour more, or a minute more than pulling my Mac Pro out of a box.

I don't want the hassle. I have the skills to make my own but I want an easy life.

I know for a fact that building from scratch to a fully ready Windows installation is at the very best, an hour, and more like 3.
Add into the equation a hacked OS? I was experimenting with 10.5, and that was an additional hour or so.

What about: Sourcing parts to give you the best chance of success? Fixing OS X installation bugs due to the fact it's not Apple Hardware?
Waiting for the all clear on updates to make sure you don't brick your computer?

How many hours did I have to spend putting my Mac Pro together? None. Zip. Nadda.

How many hours have I had to spend fault finding? None. Zip. Nadda.

Easy Life > Saving money.

Simple as that.
 
So you're telling me it costs an additional $1200 to upgrade the 3 GB of RAM in the base model Mac Pro to 12 GB.

I can buy 12 GB DDR3 memory kits for $250. That's only a 400% markup!

2 TB 7200 RPM drive for $300? Gimme a break. 100% markup.

An additional Radeon 5770 for $250? lulz. 66% markup.
Who on earth ever said that buying a Mac means buying hard drives and memory from Apple? When we talk about buying a Mac we talk about buying a Mac, not memory or disks.
 
I don't care if it's a hour more, or a minute more than pulling my Mac Pro out of a box.

Unless, you have to like reinstall your OS. Actually, installing Hackintosh is faster than installing from media since HDD > DVD.

What about: Sourcing parts to give you the best chance of success? Fixing OS X installation bugs due to the fact it's not Apple Hardware?
Waiting for the all clear on updates to make sure you don't brick your computer?

Didn't really need to source parts at all. Had the PC already.

How many hours have I had to spend fault finding? None. Zip. Nadda

Hey, me neither, it was as simple as running a script and including a couple of files onto the hard drive.

Easy Life > Saving money.

Simple as that.

Sounds like you shouldn't work either, if Easy Life > Saving money.

What a steal! Saving $1000 for an hour of work.

EDIT: BTW, you can't even overclock a Mac Pro. Get back to me when you get your i7 running at 4.2 GHz.
 
Just to understand something, is LightPeak Fibre Optic? If so, how can it power devices? FibreOptics carries no power down the line.
 



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if Steve Jobs' latest customer email is to believed, it seems Mac users will have to continue to wait for USB 3, According to an email response inquiring about USB3 for Mac, Steve Jobs reportedly wrote:USB 3 has been previously rumored to be coming to the Mac Pro and iMac lines, though the latest email casts some doubt on how quickly Apple will adopt the new standard. USB 3 promises higher speeds for external devices.

Article Link: Steve Jobs: USB 3 Not Taking Off At This Time

Herr Jobs is a master of "NO". No multitasking, no blu ray, no Flash, et al. If he isn't in full control, he isn't happy. (and he loves being happy...) Apple consumers need to understand that the only product features they will EVER see are those that Herr Jobs feels are worthy of his warped sense of usefulness.
 
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