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He doesn't have to get a Nexus One. Flash is coming to the Android platform so any Android phone released that he wanted could have flash. ;)

Nexus One, Droid and Dell Mini 5 have already been demoed running Flash.

I am in no rush :)

Will give it fair few months for all in the industry to show what have they got for us...

My iPod Touch goes to my GF that is for sure...

iPad, for my needs, got it 100% wrong, it is way too big and has no Flash support, so this device is defo no-no for me...

Nexus looks awesome - will need to check it up close and personal :)

Dell Mini 5 - looks like closest device to what I need - but we will see...

And in few months time or so I am sure there will be dozens of new similar devices all competing with each other - which is great :)

Exciting times for sure but little bit sad too since I am Apple fan and they really did everything they possibly could NOT to make me spend my money with them... Shame :(
 
Since customers, courts, government agencies, clients, partners and bosses accept and provide only .doc/.docx files, we have little choice.

Why not? You may be forced to use these proprietary formats at work but can still advocate an open format in your spare time.

To say iWork/Office is the best then slam Flash for being closed would be a little bit of a double standard IMO.
 
I just tried Burn Notice from Hulu, 480p (HD) in Full Screen on my 24" Apple monitor at 1920x1600. Latest OS 10.6, with non-beta Flash, in Firefox 3.6.

Smooth as silk :) As opposed to the HTML5 demo I posted about above, which chokes my Mac Book Pro.

So much for HTML5 is panacea.....

The cool thing about your comp, is that when you do move to 10.1, it will offload HD Flash video to the GPU, so even better. My MBPro's GPU isn't supported, but I'm hopeful it will be, but its CPU does just fine with Flash.

Same here, that DoF test in Flash runs great. :)
 
I just tried Burn Notice from Hulu, 480p (HD) in Full Screen on my 24" Apple monitor at 1920x1600. Latest OS 10.6, with non-beta Flash, in Firefox 3.6.

Smooth as silk :) As opposed to the HTML5 demo I posted about above, which chokes my Mac Book Pro.

So much for HTML5 is panacea.....

Have you actually read the source code? According to the declarations its HTML4!!! Its 100% Javascript BTW, there are no HTML5 Tags. Please stop spreading your lies, it is not HTM5. That example is pure Javascript. If you're going to compare, compare videos, don't compare a Vector program to a video stream.
 

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Breaking news!

Flash coming to Blackberry as well! :)

Until day or two ago Apple wasn't alone but now they truly are...

http://theflashblog.com/?p=1792

This link also includes awesome demo of AIR platform on tablet / mobile device(s)


Not only that Flash isn't going anywhere but Flash has never been stronger and more promising!


:)
 
Back in the day, Steve Jobs was against two button mice insisting that they were not necessary and that a single button mouse was the way to go. I think the view they've adopted with Flash is quite similar. I'm pretty sure that within the next 12 months or so they'll accept that although they may not agree with it, it is something that a lot of users want and will then support it's integration into browsing on the iPhone OS to some degree.
 
Et alors ?

may be the flash technologies was old ... but it's the only technologies to build some complet and easy animation et broadcasting video for content in the pc world and the mac world in the same time and the same render... and you can create what want for the graphics ...

oulalala c'est compliqué d'écrire en anglais ...
 
Would this excite anyone?
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtube/

Dear Google,

With your purchase of On2, you now own both the world's largest video site (YouTube) and all the patents behind a new high performance video codec -- VP8. Just think what you can achieve by releasing the VP8 codec under an irrevocable royalty-free license and pushing it out to users on YouTube? You can end the web's dependence on patent-encumbered video formats and proprietary software (Flash).
 
That bites. There should have been no drop in performance when moving to Snow Leopard. Have you tried the Hulu beta AIR app?
Yes, I have that on my system as well. It plays better, but there is still some stuttering. The majority of the time I've been using a PC program called PlayOn (within VMWare Fusion) to stream hulu to my HDTV, so I don't watch all that much on my Mac …but it would be nice if I could use it as intended.
 
Breaking news!

Flash coming to Blackberry as well! :)

Until day or two ago Apple wasn't alone but now they truly are...

http://theflashblog.com/?p=1792

This link also includes awesome demo of AIR platform on tablet / mobile device(s)


Not only that Flash isn't going anywhere but Flash has never been stronger and more promising!


:)
Everyone else is bending over backward to get Flash for their mobile platforms because it's the only thing they have that stands out against Apple's iProducts. The ironic thing is that if Apple had allowed Flash on the original iPhone, you can pretty much guarantee Adobe wouldn't be busting their butts optimizing it now. They simply wouldn't have the motivation to impress anyone. You Flash lovers should be thanking Apple for holding out.
 
knows, not know.

It wasn't meant to be sarcastic, the rolleyes were because somebody just had to ask the question
AAh.

I only asked the question as we could end up with a truly open video format which not only removes the dependence of Flash, we'd also get away from a Patent encumbered video format which could end up biting people in the arse.

On February 2, 2010 MPEG LA announced that H.264-encoded Internet Video that is free to end users would continue to be exempt from royalty fees until at least December 31, 2015. However, other fees remain in place. The license terms are updated in 5-year blocks.

Remember what happened with GIF?
 
AAh.

I only asked the question as we could end up with a truly open video format which not only removes the dependence of Flash, we'd also get away from a Patent encumbered video format which could end up biting people in the arse.

Well, you have the first part satisfied, Ogg Theora. But the rest is well... nobody supports Theora. The most prominent person pushing it is Mozilla.
 
Everyone else is bending over backward to get Flash for their mobile platforms because it's the only thing they have that stands out against Apple's iProducts. The ironic thing is that if Apple had allowed Flash on the original iPhone, you can pretty much guarantee Adobe wouldn't be busting their butts optimizing it now. They simply wouldn't have the motivation to impress anyone. You Flash lovers should be thanking Apple for holding out.

There might be some truth in there - I agree... :)

And let me make one thing perfectly clear - I also think Adobe has turned into fat hog in recent years and agree that they could have done much much more - not only with Flash, but with other software too. IMHO only 100% awesome piece of software that they produced in recent time is Lightroom... From UI to performance to features its an awesome 10/10 package - rest, as most will agree, can perform and do much better...

However, lets get back on topic of Flash...

We all know that there are few bugs that needs to be ironed out and that performance of Flash Player can and needs to be better - but this can be applied to anything and everything out there!

Just look at OS X and latest fix Apple released in regards to sound performance issues on Mac Pro machines. I mean hello!!! Can you imagine yourself spending 3-4k on awesome machine just to have issues with overheating while playing song from iTunes and then waiting for 1 YEAR for Apple to fix it!?!?! If you are not running SL you are still screwed cos there is still no fix for 10.5... So much about calling someone lazy or calling some software buggy...

Every software out there can be better hence we are heaving regular updates and fixes with them all...

Now, why am I pretty pissed of with Apple?

Well here is short incomplete list:

- hypocrisy and ignorance (accusing someone of being lazy and starting all out war while at the same time taking year(s) to fix bugs with their own software and OS)

- lies and ******** (ultimate browsing experience!? - faked screen grabs of sites running flash that were later removed from apple.com when **** started hitting the fan!? - claims that flash would eat up battery life and similar bs while at the same time huge number of competing devices are happily demoing latest flash player!?)

- pricing rip-of (they have turned into one of the biggest rip-of companies ever! - not only for selling outdated, mid range hardware, manufactured in China at LOLable prices but also for loosing touch with "just works" motto - since more and more things sold to us by apple are more "it just doesn't work" kind of thing... Decade ago - things were different! You would pay same price you are paying now but would get top of the range hardware, awesome built quality as well as software that truly "just worked"... Today things are rather quickly turning the other way around....)

- control freakness (I have nothing against if someone is control freak when it comes down to their own IPs... However, if someone goes all freaky about the internet - arguably the only symbol of freedom we have today - and starts directly and indirectly dictating what we can and can't see on it, is going way way to far... If we pay premium price for a device at VERY LEAST we want to be able to use it way we want to and not be censured and controlled like we are bunch of idiots!)

- greed, greed, ... and some more greed (in fact, their greed is taking monstrous and very dangerous proportions!)


In any case, back to your post - directly or indirectly Apple might have pushed Adobe a bit - and this is good if true!

But they could have done the same thing in professional, and most importantly, productive way - without starting all out war, without talking utter nonsense in public, without calling people lazy, without shouting and persuading world that black is white and white is blue and without loosing thousands upon thousands of potential customers in a process...

:s
 
We all know that there are few bugs that needs to be ironed out and that performance of Flash Player can and needs to be better - but this can be applied to anything and everything out there!

Ah, of course, Flash Player on OS X sucks rocks, but nothing's perfect so we should just be happy! :rolleyes:

- greed, greed, ... and some more greed (in fact, their greed is taking monstrous and very dangerous proportions!)

Perhaps you can provide me with the names of some of the more benevolent technology companies, aside from the PC makers who take it in the shorts in a silly quest for market share while making Microsoft bajillions?

I was going to buy Windows 7 Pro to run in VMware on my Mac for some PC-specific working I'm doing. But not for $299. Microsoft owns 95% of the desktop OS market and they're still charging $300 for an install disc? Who's greedy exactly?

And the last time I checked, devices that compete against the iPhone cost pretty much the same as the iPhone, devices that compete against the iPod (Zune) cost pretty much the same as the iPod, and PCs with high-end industrial design (not the plastic fantastic crap you find at Best Buy) are dangerously close to Mac prices.

(Yes, Apple is way behind on their MacBook processors right now, and only a fool would buy a MB/MBP right now.)
 
- hypocrisy and ignorance (accusing someone of being lazy and starting all out war while at the same time taking year(s) to fix bugs with their own software and OS)
The buzz about the audio problem had just been showing up recently, and the fix came relatively soon. You don't know if Apple already knew of this problem before but "was too lazy to fix it", which I highly doubt.
That is, differently from Adobe. Comments from ex-employees tell that Adobe takes ages to fix already known problems. Some companies go further and prefer to fix them only when they cause a conflict between an american company and another country (Microsoft).

- lies and ******** (ultimate browsing experience!? - faked screen grabs of sites running flash that were later removed from apple.com when **** started hitting the fan!? - claims that flash would eat up battery life and similar bs while at the same time huge number of competing devices are happily demoing latest flash player!?)
The advertising mistake was done from the ad agency as far as I know.
Other devices may run Flash fine, but the other devices do not run the iPhone OS, and Flash would run horribly on that one.

- pricing rip-of (they have turned into one of the biggest rip-of companies ever! - not only for selling outdated, mid range hardware, manufactured in China at LOLable prices but also for loosing touch with "just works" motto - since more and more things sold to us by apple are more "it just doesn't work" kind of thing... Decade ago - things were different! You would pay same price you are paying now but would get top of the range hardware, awesome built quality as well as software that truly "just worked"... Today things are rather quickly turning the other way around....)
BS. Currently the only overpriced products are the portables and the quad core Mac Pros. Every other computer, device or accessory is properly priced.

- control freakness (I have nothing against if someone is control freak when it comes down to their own IPs... However, if someone goes all freaky about the internet - arguably the only symbol of freedom we have today - and starts directly and indirectly dictating what we can and can't see on it, is going way way to far... If we pay premium price for a device at VERY LEAST we want to be able to use it way we want to and not be censured and controlled like we are bunch of idiots!)
They're not control freaks and they're not telling you how to browse the internet. They don't want their device to run slowly, crash and perhaps overheat because Adobe can't make a decent Flash plugin. Trust me, that would be the last thing you'd expect from a premium device (whose price is not that premium really)

- greed, greed, ... and some more greed (in fact, their greed is taking monstrous and very dangerous proportions!)
Their (Or at least Jobs') desire for innovation has always been higher than their desire for money. They're not greedy.

But they could have done the same thing in professional, and most importantly, productive way - without starting all out war, without talking utter nonsense in public, without calling people lazy, without shouting and persuading world that black is white and white is blue and without loosing thousands upon thousands of potential customers in a process...

They've used the hard way to push the next-gen technologies and they've always succeeded, seems to have been quite effective in the past.
 
Get an OEM copy. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10011182 $138.99

Unlike apple, Microsoft can't add markup to any hardware as they don't make any.

Actually, I did. Then I read the license agreement. Not that I worried too much about that, but I realized 1) I would have difficulty with an OEM serial if I wanted to run Win7 via Boot Camp and Fusion/Parallels (switching between Fusion and Parallels, depending on which is faster at the moment) and 2) I wouldn't be able to transfer it to my next Mac anyway (my understanding is an OEM serial becomes locked to the original hardware on which it is installed).

To add insult to injury, I can't run a single license of Win 7 on both my desktop machine and laptop, even though I never use both simultaneously.

Ridiculous Windows activation schemes. And people have the gall to call Apple control Nazis and overpriced? Do you know how much it would cost to legally install Windows 7 on each of the Macs I have in my house? A heck of a lot more than what I paid for a family pack of OS X. Seems there's a Microsoft tax too, which (unsurprisingly) the Apple haters never mention.
 
Actually, I did. Then I read the license agreement. Not that I worried too much about that, but I realized 1) I would have difficulty with an OEM serial if I wanted to run Win7 via Boot Camp and Fusion/Parallels (switching between Fusion and Parallels, depending on which is faster at the moment) and 2) I wouldn't be able to transfer it to my next Mac anyway (my understanding is an OEM serial becomes locked to the original hardware on which it is installed).

You could install Windows on both machines to test performance (Bootcamp and the VM) without using the key as there is a 120 day grace period before a serial and activation is required.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/extend-the-windows-7-trial-from-30-to-120-days/

That would be the best solution in your case.

The part where you want to run 2 copies of Windows 7 is a bit crap as you would need 2 licenced. The whole activation is a complete clusterf**k I'll agree. It doesn't stop piracy and only serves to pain genuine customers who have to jump through Microsoft's hoops to use the software they bought. :(
 
You could install Windows on both machines to test performance (Bootcamp and the VM) without using the key as there is a 120 day grace period before a serial and activation is required.

Yeah, that does me no good as I need both - Boot Camp if I want to play a game and a virtual machine for everything else. I'd like the flexibility of being able to switch between Fusion and Parallels Desktop (which both use the Boot Camp partition) at will, but I'm sure the Windows activation torture device won't like that one bit.
 
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You could install Windows on both machines to test performance (Bootcamp and the VM) without using the key as there is a 120 day grace period before a serial and activation is required.

Yeah, that does me no good as I need both - Boot Camp if I want to play a game and a virtual machine for everything else. I'd like the flexibility of being able to switch between Fusion and Parallels Desktop (which both use the Boot Camp partition) at will, but I'm sure the Windows activation torture device won't like that one bit.

Is there something specific that Parallels offers over Fusion (or vice versa) which would quantify such a need?

I'm not sure such a setup would work (activation or not) as the driversets and addons (vmware additons and whatever parallels uses) would probably cause quite a conflict.

Apologies for my earlier reply, I originally thought you wanted to try both parallels and vmware for performance testing, not use both at once.

Its a pity you have already purchased both parallels and Vmware (multiple licences to run on both machines) as that must have already set you back a few dollars.
 
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