Still no headphone jack?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by BvizioN, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. BvizioN macrumors 601

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    OK Ok! I know what you thinking just by reading this tittle.

    Apple removed 3.5mm headphone jack from the iPhone last year, they believe wireless is the future and also perhaps to make more space for cramped components inside iPhone. Of course they are not in a rush to remove it from iPad or Mac, personally I think that’s because they have more space available to include 3.5mm for at least few more years.

    One thing was clear to me. Removing the headphone jack from iPhone meant it will never ever ever ever be back on iPhone again. Just what on earth is wrong with almost all reviiwers, critics out there that when they go on talking about these new iPhones they end up saying: There is still no headphone jack!. Did they really think Apple removed it last year to bring it back on a device again this year? I mean, what kind of nonsense is this? I really don’t want to discuss if this was the right or wrong move from Apple, it have been discussed so many times. But really, are these people seriously thinking headphone jack had a chance of making come back this year?
     
  2. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604

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    It would have been helpful bringing it back. The decision was pretty unpopular but since they claimed it was a futuristic approach, they were never going to put it back in. They’ve saved money and partially convinced blind loyalists it’s great though, so high fives all round.
     
  3. JayIsAwesome macrumors 65832

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    I just think folks need to realize that the headphone jack, just like The Undertaker’s Wrestlemania streak, is dead.

    RIP
     
  4. Shirasaki macrumors G3

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    They remove headphone jack so that they can charge much more on a phone that is not necessarily better than android rival in every way. Good strategy for them but bad for customers.
     
  5. BvizioN thread starter macrumors 601

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    They did not convince me on anything. I had already stoped using headphone jack a year before that, and will never go back to annoying wires. And no, I am not audiophile. The quality of most wireless earbuds, headphones out there is good enough for me. But I can understand how this may suck for other people who have different way of listening then I do.

    Point here is, it is gone. Talking about every generation of new phone how headphone jack is missing, is not going to bring it back. Never!
     
  6. MH01 Suspended

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    They are voicing thier disappointment at a bad decision in a review. They are aware it's not coming back in the iPhone.

    The fact remains, many people still want the headphone jack, so others that read the review , will agree, we get it you don't.

    And you are completely missing the point why it still exists on macs and iPad pros..... doing any content creation / editing will having latency... ;)

    Before many on here continue with a rant on how wired is dead.... plug in some wired and wireless headphones and compare the sound watching a movie.... soon you will realise why the heaphone jack is here to stay in any machine that is perceived for "work" purposes.
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    An audiophile will not use the heaphone jack. The average joe though will not spend £££ on wireless headphones, frankly they are another annoying device that needs charging and despnding on price point, has SQ issues / interference . Nothing more awesome than your wireless headset when you get on a plane and told to put your phone on airplane mode.... as one exmaple ;)
     
  7. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604

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    That’s fine, but those of us who will be using wired headphones for many years to come, it’s a pain in the arse and compromise. Having a flimsy adapter between headphones and the phone is just poor. Apple cocked up but as i’ll repeat again in case it was missed the first time, they can’t bring it back.
     
  8. BvizioN thread starter macrumors 601

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    You are making it sound as I have never used headphone jack. I have, for years. And I have compared both. Not much noticeable difference for me. And people I know have been zero effected by this. Lighting earpods do fine for most people from what I have seen. It's the ones who have spend a lot on headphones jack audio equipment who seem to be more disappointed from what I have seen. Nothing shocking though!
     
  9. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    I think some reviewers point this out (again) as a way to find 1 more thing to add to the negative list.
     
  10. MH01 Suspended

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    I'm giving you insight from someone that works in content creation and why the jack is still present in new macs and and iPad pros. You said it's a space issue, it's not .

    I think you will find that most people prefer the headphone jack, maybe your friends don't.

    Example : I use AirPods daily, for gym and walk to work. Love em, super convenient. Now the cons, battery and another damn device to charge daily - if it was not for gym, wired is more convenient, no interference , no battery issues . I have a set of B&O H8, used wired most to the time , due to annoyance of charging , cut outs and they sound better wired.

    As stated, if you have spent a lot on audio equipment, if you are using the iPhone as a source , it's into a portable dac/amp. I assume the ones you are referring to , have a few nicer headphones than the meh that is EarPods.
     
  11. AdonisSMU macrumors 604

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    No ones a blind loyalist. You just dont like it when people have a different opinion than you.

    I had been using bluetooth headphones for 5 years when Apple removed the headphone jack.
     
  12. 576316 macrumors 601

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    Haha. People who think the headphone jack isn't anything but dead are completely insane. It's going to continue disappearing from devices, until it's gone entirely. And there's nothing any of you can do about that apart from get over it.
     
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    Why would you say that ? Apples selected reviewers all ignored the issues people are reporting on these forums. Maybe it's an excuse to sound impartial in the reviews ?
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    Right. Is that why it's present in all of apples macs and iPad pros that were just updated? Call apple and tell them it's dead......
     
  14. AdonisSMU macrumors 604

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    We are talking about phones.
     
  15. mds1256 macrumors regular

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    I never get this complaint? As you get an adapter with the phone. Just leave he adapter plugged into the end of the wired earphones/headphones. I don’t get what the issue is?
     
  16. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604

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    You don’t know anything about me and my personality traits. Never make assumptions about anonymous individuals. There are people who are easily swayed here, that’s a fact.

    Congratulations on using Bluetooth headphones for 5 years prior to the iPhone 7. I’ll have to tell my children about that later.
     
  17. BvizioN thread starter macrumors 601

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    From what I have noticed, majority are fine with this. They just listen through lightning or use the adapter or opt for wireless. But is the so called Pro, or people who have heavenly invested on stuff with 3.5mm jack who find it hard . So, was this wrong or right decision, it totally depends on who you ask. And complainers are usually the ones who are vocal (as it is alsways the case with anything) and they would have you believe this was a wrong decision from Apple but people who don’t care or are happy they are just not really bothered and get on with it, and you don’t get to hear much from them.
     
  18. Adelphos33 macrumors 6502a

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    I think I have used Apple’s lightning connector EarPods once since I have and my 8. I use AirPods and regular EarPods with the iPad and Mac. Honestly the current solution for earphones for the iPhone is not ideal
     
  19. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    I wasn't referring to Apple selected reviewers.

    As to your guess, that may be right. Who knows...
     
  20. Drababan macrumors newbie

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    I find it hard to believe this is still a topic of conversation. Life, and especially business, is based on the 80/20 rule. 80% will always be the mass and 20% the fringe. 80% were using or will use wireless headphones and be completely happy with the results. I've been using them for years (first pair of quality ones were Bose AE2w). 20% will not be happy no matter what. That is why there will always be competition; someone to come in and fill the niche role in the market (YAY Capitalism!!) Apple has killed aging technologies time and again (floppy, cdrom, now headphone jack), this is really not new territory for them.

    For now it is easy enough to reuse old circuit board designs and cram the jack into desktop/laptop form factors but I don't think those will be around much longer either. Converged adapters are all the rage in tech now. Soon enough professional grade gear will move toward a converged adapter (probably USB type C).
     
  21. Appl3FTW macrumors 603

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    OP it’s not coming back... RIP headphone jack
     
  22. torana355 macrumors 68040

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    When just about any headphone worth using uses a 3.5mm jack its strange decision by Apple. In contrast you have the LG V30 with a fantastic Quad DAC that with a decent set of headphones leaves any wireless headphone for dead. One day Bluetooth will provide good sound quality, till then the 3.5mm jack should stay imo.
     
  23. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I think Apple was hoping their answer to the 3.5 mm Jack being deleted was the AirPods. They're a great device that I use regularly, but I understand that not everybody agrees with Bluetooth audio and quality. But I see it as a way for Apple to make another profit by introducing something as an accessory to the iPhone for an additional purchase.
     
  24. torana355 macrumors 68040

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    I use Bluetooth in the car and the Audio is accpetable so I do see the benefit of Bluetooth audio. However when the S8+ can keep the jack while retaining IP68 and a slim chassis design there should be no excuse to get rid of it just yet, especially when the device costs 1000 bucks.
     
  25. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I understand Samsung retained the 3.5 mm Jack, but Apple isn't Samsung. Apple is a company that will do things and make the moves that most companies won't. Is it for the better for every consumer what Apple does? That's debatable. But for me, the removal of the 3.5 mm Jack did not inconvenience me, as it did for some.
     

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