Still no LED indicator...sigh

[dotme]

...I realize that its purpose and your desires for a notification light are not the same, but you made it sound like it didn't work at all.

Fair enough. Maybe for me the bigger issue is no post-event notification at all if you're out of the room when a call or voicemail happens.

You can tell the iPhone to alert you repeatedly for a missed text. I don't know why Apple doesn't offer that same option for missed calls/voicemails. I'd settle for a vibrate or reminder tone every 10 min. Hell, even my old flip phone would do that.

 

[PostHate]

Well i disagree, Its a matter of opinion not fact.

No, statistics aren't opinions, they are facts.

99% of the people using phones would like to know if they missed a call when they returned to their phones. The remaining 1% just wants to complain. You can find people who will complain about ANYTHING. People complained about the invention of the wheel, about fire, about oral sex. That is life...

 

[Kissaragi]

You can tell the iPhone to alert you repeatedly for a missed text. I don't know why Apple doesn't offer that same option for missed calls/voicemails. I'd settle for a vibrate or reminder tone every 10 min. Hell, even my old flip phone would do that.

That would be handy as an option.

 

[Knowimagination]

Fair enough. Maybe for me the bigger issue is no post-event notification at all if you're out of the room when a call or voicemail happens.

You can tell the iPhone to alert you repeatedly for a missed text. I don't know why Apple doesn't offer that same option for missed calls/voicemails. I'd settle for a vibrate or reminder tone every 10 min. Hell, even my old flip phone would do that.

Yeah I would rather have a vibrate/tone reminder than a light personally. Lets suggest it to apple!

 

[Kissaragi]

No, statistics aren't opinions, they are facts.

99% of the people using phones would like to know if they missed a call when they returned to their phones. The remaining 1% just wants to complain. You can find people who will complain about ANYTHING. People complained about the invention of the wheel, about fire, about oral sex. That is life...

Wow theres no talking to people like you. Why do you have to be so aggressive? I said i didn't care either way.

Feel free to show me the link to the statistics from the international survey that was done on the blinking LED indicator. Until you do its your opinion that everyone wants it, not fact.

Ironic that your the one complaining about multiple things in multiple threads right now.

 

[Hammie]

You are being silly and ignorant. Any case would have a cutout like they do for the speaker, camera, etc. The other things you said are just childish, and you know it.
That's untrue. There is absolutely nothing about an indicator that would hurt someone, since it can be easily shut off. The ONLY people to complain about it are people looking to complain and start trouble, as you can see in this very thread...

Because Apple hasn't made that feature. If enough people ask for it, maybe they will.

Not sure where I am being silly, ignorant, or childish... at least no more than any other poster in this thread. These are actually very valid observations. Even if cases had a cut out, the LED would need to be facing the owner and bright enough to be seen at a distance. There have been people in this thread who have stated they would love an LED so they can see if from the next room. If this is the scenario, the LED would need to 1.) be facing them and 2.) be bright enough to bee seen from a distance. People already used this argument for the flash LED -- phone needs to be facing screen down (so it can be seen) and that the flash is too bright (so what is too bright???)...

You may want to re-read what I wrote. I never said it would hurt anyone. You just want to be argumentative about this. All i said is that this is an issue -- like many other issues in all areas of life -- where people will argue both sides and really no one is right or wrong. Some will like and use it others will think it is silly and not want it.

Personally, I couldn't care less if the phone had that feature or not. I doubt that I would even use it since my phone is usually in a case, in my pocket, or in my bag. My home phone has a light and I never pay attention to it.

I was being flip about the talking caller ID...

 

[kappaknight]

I only read your first few posts because you're being incredibly ignorant and annoying and judging by them I don't need to go further. There's simply no reason not to have this. If you're gonna complain about it and would rather "just turn the screen on" than you can and you can turn off the option while a blinking light will make it easier for everyone else.

Why make things way more complicated than it has to be? Simply not including it would save the two steps you mentioned.

Technology is supposed to make our lives easier, not make us slaves to the phone. Most business class users would always have a message or two sitting around so are they supposed to do nothing else during the day besides answering to the phone's beckon call?

 

[orange42]

Why make things way more complicated than it has to be? Simply not including it would save the two steps you mentioned.

Technology is supposed to make our lives easier, not make us slaves to the phone. Most business class users would always have a message or two sitting around so are they supposed to do nothing else during the day besides answering to the phone's beckon call?

Right cause I'm sure it would be incredibly complicated to go into settings and turn the light off. I'm still shocked at how people are responding because some would like the OPTION to have a helpful little light.

 

[liquidlink]

I too miss my LED indicator from my Blackberries. The LED was nice when I was away from my phone, I can look at my phone from across the room and see if I missed a call, email, or anything that I needed to address. This is important to me and makes my life easier.

Apple is slow to move on anything that is important to business people. iOS 6 will finally have multiply signatures for different email accounts, WOW welcome to 2000 Apple. Also they finally will allow you to create a different profile on your iPhone based on time so your phone can stay on all night and silent except for important calls. Things Blackberry has had for years.

Blackberry had some great features and iPhone has some great features.

I hope Apple brings the LED to the iPhone but I know deep down it will never happen, Apple is Apple, love them or hate them.

 

[PostHate]

Right cause I'm sure it would be incredibly complicated to go into settings and turn the light off. I'm still shocked at how people are responding because some would like the OPTION to have a helpful little light.

It wouldn't be hard. But they wouldn't have anything to troll about anymore either so that's why they are against it

 

[davidjearly]

Incorrect. The point went right over your head and you are still not able to recognize it.

No, it did not. Please stop being condescending to everyone in the thread.

No, none of them apply, which is why I said the point went right over your head.

None of them apply? ALL of them apply. ALL 4 of these methods are ways of 'notifying' the user about an incoming notification.

This is a silly theory and the vast majority of consumers disagree with you. There are probably only about 100 people who feel the way you do, and it's mostly just to complain and incite trouble on internet forums.

The vast majority? Subjective. I do not recall you illustrating your ability to speak for the 'vast majority of consumers'.

 

[PostHate]

No, it did not. Please stop being condescending to everyone in the thread.

Quit deflecting.

None of them apply? ALL of them apply. ALL 4 of these methods are ways of 'notifying' the user about an incoming notification.

No one cares about a currently incoming notification. This is the point that has gone right over your head 50 times now. People care about knowing that they missed a call, is that really hard to understand? Seriously?

The vast majority? Subjective. I do not recall you illustrating your ability to speak for the 'vast majority of consumers'.

I'm sorry if the facts refute your side of the argument.

Why not come up with another list of 4 things that absolutely do not apply to the discussion?

 

[onthecouchagain]

Still no many things. Oh well.

 

[paulrbeers]

None of them apply? ALL of them apply. ALL 4 of these methods are ways of 'notifying' the user about an incoming notification.
.

But the question at hand isn't for an incoming notification, it's for notification of a missed event. I leave my iphone with the screen pointed up at all times so I get notices when I am next to it I know it. But what happens if I go to the bathroom or to a meeting, and I come back to my desk 20 minutes after the phone call or text message that I missed. Back in my android days, I could look over at the notification LED and it would tell me that I had a missed call/text/etc.... I wouldn't even need to be near my Android phone, I could generally see the flashing LED from 6-8 feet away. With my iPhone, I have to walk over to it, and hit the home button to even know if I missed anything. Sadly, most of the time I haven't which makes me feel unloved and unimportant, but that's a thread for another day!

This is why you are missing the point of the notification LED. As you already stated, there are a four ways the iPhone will notify you that something is happening right now, but what about that Missed X from 20 minutes ago?

 

[onthecouchagain]

Who needs a notification light. It's useless!

Apple-in-the-future: "Introducing, a notification light!"

Fans: "Gasp. Notification light is useful!"

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Who needs a larger screen! 3.5 inches is perfect!

Apple: "Introducing, a 4" screen!"

Fans: "4" screen is perfect!"

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Fans: "the iPhone 4S' weight gives it a premium feel!"

Apple: "The iPhone 5 is lighter than the competition!"

Fans: "Eat it, Samsung!!"

 

[AbSoluTc]

Lol - a notification light - for your notifications! LOL!

Never understood the point of a notification light. You're going to turn on your phone and look at it ever few minutes anyways. Whose phone doesn't vibrate, ring, ding, chirp or sing a song these days?

 

[nitromac]

Honestly, if Apple implemented a blinking LED light into their phones, they would make it small. It wouldn't be obstructive, and I'm sure they'd make it so you could turn it off. Think of the iSight green LED on MacBooks. I'm picturing the same thing on the front (or back) of an iPhone. Hidden when it's off, but clearly visible when on.

 

[paulrbeers]

Lol - a notification light - for your notifications! LOL!

Never understood the point of a notification light. You're going to turn on your phone and look at it ever few minutes anyways. Whose phone doesn't vibrate, ring, ding, chirp or sing a song these days?

See that's just it!!! You don't have to turn on your phone every few minutes! Some of us prefer to live life! If you've never had a Notification light, I guess you just wouldn't understand. The notification light that you missed something lets you know without having to "turn on your phone"....

Case in point, last week I was home with my daughter and my wife was on her way home from work. I took my daughter upstairs to change her diaper and missed my wife's call. She was calling to tell me she had picked up pizza so no reason for me to make dinner. I missed that call and didn't check my phone when we got back down and I started making dinner. If I had a notification light flashing away telling me I missed the call, I would have checked my messages and realized I didn't need to make dinner. Unfortunately I didn't check my phone (assuming that in the 3 minutes I was away from my phone I wouldn't have received anything worthwhile). Sure I could have taken my phone with me, but if you have ever had a 1+ year old, you know how awful those diapers can smell and the last thing you are thinking about is "where is my phone"....

Edit: 1st world problems....

 

[b24pgg]

My dad just sold his iPhone 4S pretty much because of this and switched to the SGS3.

iFanboys have no problem coming up with excuses why it doesn't exist ("just turn on the screen"/"the light is annoying"/"it drains battery life" etc.) but it should at least be an option for the clearly not insignificant group of users who want a notification light.

 

[Geckotek]

Lol - a notification light - for your notifications! LOL!

Never understood the point of a notification light. You're going to turn on your phone and look at it ever few minutes anyways.

And in that one sentence you describe the primary issue. WHY should I be constantly waking up my screen to see if I have a message? I should be ablet to glance across the room and see that my iPhone is blinking and has a message.

Whose phone doesn't vibrate, ring, ding, chirp or sing a song these days?

Oops, my bad. Here you describe the second issue. 1) Until a software update, it only vibrated, rang, digned, chirped, or sang a song for a few moments. If for some reason I was out of the room when that happened, I may not hear it. 2) The reminders that were added were great, but they don't work for every type of alert and they eventually stop.

 

[paulrbeers]

My dad just sold his iPhone 4S pretty much because of this and switched to the SGS3.

iFanboys have no problem coming up with excuses why it doesn't exist ("just turn on the screen"/"the light is annoying"/"it drains battery life" etc.) but it should at least be an option for the clearly not insignificant group of users who want a notification light.

I'm as much of an iFanboy as the next guy and will make excuses for Apple and their choices, but this is one failing I think they have. Will it use more energy? Yes, but would it use as much as flipping on the display on my phone every 5-10 minutes for no reason? I would venture to guess not! I would venture to guess that that notification light blinking for 20 minutes a day, would use less than me flipping on my display for 5 seconds multiple times an hour every hour.....

 

[apple.pseudofan]

With this being well known as a BB feature, don't expect Apple to ever include it.

And, including it would matter. It may be tiny, but it would still add to the manufacturing process and take up precious, valuable space.

 

[paulrbeers]

With this being well known as a BB feature, don't expect Apple to ever include it.

And, including it would matter. It may be tiny, but it would still add to the manufacturing process and take up precious, valuable space.

Sure it will use up a small small tiny amount of space. And everything is valuable in phones as small as the iPhone 5. Something probably would have to give. Maybe instead of a 5.45 whr batter they have to reduce its size to 5.4 or 5.35. I'd be willing to give that up. Great, I lose 10 minutes talk time....

Edit: Looks like PostHate just went to time out.....

 

[MacPod]

The problem is that no one cares about your opinion. The vast majority of iPhone owners would like some type of new call indicator. And the people who don't care about the option wouldn't be opposed to having it AS AN OPTION.

I don't think you understand how this works. I was responding to someone who ASKED for my opinion.

It's only a select few of instigators and trouble makers who oppose this because they have nothing better to do.

Please, don't pretend to know my motives better than I do. This projection strikes me as the thinking of someone who doesn't understand the difference between opinion and fact. Your opinion is not a universal fact, and people with different opinions do not do so because they are stupid, mean, or whatever. I gave my reasons. You don't have to agree with them, but you damned well aren't going to tell me they are something else entirely.

The iPhone is FILLED with options that I will never use, but I can still understand that other people may like them, so I don't cry all day how they shouldn't be available as options.

Software features. As I pointed out in the post you quoted, Apple scrutinizes every little physical feature, and external physical features doubly so. Adding an LED for the sole purpose of notification, something which, contrary to what you seem to think, a LOT of people don't like and that will be turned on by default and thus cause a lot of annoyance, is not something they'd do lightly.

You say no one cares about my opinion, and that most people want this (without even the slightest evidence to back that assertion up), yet, somehow, Apple has never saw fit to include this function. Given the evidence at hand, which of us do you think is correct?

Your claims don't fit reality.

 

[haruhiko]

Well, they had to save something for the iPhone 5S next year. Lol.

No. Apple is all about being minimalist.