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I think anybody who is satisfied with anything but a properly working iPad is off their rocker and someone who probably suffers from low self-esteem.
Posting dumb stuff is easy.
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Another doctor.
I think anybody who is satisfied with anything but a properly working iPad is off their rocker and someone who probably suffers from low self-esteem.
Posting dumb stuff is easy.
The best approach is just to not come to the forums. Reading threads on MacRumors makes it seem like 99% of iPads have issues, but it's actually opposite. You're just getting a small microcosm of users complaining, and the people who are happy (most iPad owners) are not wasting their time posting about it. I'll go one better--as someone who reads a LOT of tech news all day long, it's also good to steer clear of the comments sections at the end of news stories.
The internet has bred a whole generation of armchair analysts. Everyone thinks they're an expert on everything. If you were to go by some of the stupid comments you see on the internet: a slightly warm sector on the back of the iPad, the logo they chose for the iPad keynote this year, and a thickness difference in models about the width of a human hair all spell the "end of Apple". (Steve Jobs was alive for the design of 99% of this stuff, so I guess Apple would still be ending if he was alive because of all his horrible choices).
My advice (and advice I live by myself) is to stick to more credible sources of information. Forum sections on tech blogs do not count as credible.
The internet has bred a whole generation of armchair analysts. Everyone thinks they're an expert on everything. If you were to go by some of the stupid comments you see on the internet: a slightly warm sector on the back of the iPad, the logo they chose for the iPad keynote this year, and a thickness difference in models about the width of a human hair all spell the "end of Apple". (Steve Jobs was alive for the design of 99% of this stuff, so I guess Apple would still be ending if he was alive because of all his horrible choices).
My advice (and advice I live by myself) is to stick to more credible sources of information. Forum sections on tech blogs do not count as credible.
I'd agree that when it comes to iPad defects, reading an iPad forum can make any problems appear more common or serious than they really are. However some of the comments on here suggest that everyone complaining about the screen has come to the forum, read a few posts then scrutinised their own iPad to try and pick out the most miniscule imperfection to moan about.
I'd hazard a guess that I'm not the only one where the real sequence of events has been the complete opposite - you take out your new iPad for the first time, turn it on, go "woah that screen looks really wrong", and then log onto the forums to see whether anyone else is having a similar problem.
Perhaps the number of 'perfect' iPads out there is around 99% - I have no idea and I don't believe anyone else on here does either. The fact is that some of them have defective screens and no amount of telling people to stop making such a big deal about it is going to change that.
Probably true but forums like this one exist for questions and to get help. I appreciate the posts that bring up issues as well as hey this thing is awesome threads. I don't understand the angry responses to a problem someone might be having with their (pick your device) on this forum. I hate pulling out the age card but my feeling is that the age here is on the younger side. At least I hope so because it would explain a lot.
I disagree. I come to forums before I purchase a product to find out what the problems are. Where else can you go to find the truth bubbling up from a global user base? When I see the same problems being reported on multiple forums, that's an indication that there's smoke, and where there's smoke....
Apple surely won't tell you it has a product problem unless enough people post on forums and generate a critical mass of owners with problems. And checking with a few friends who have the same product is too small of a sampling.
I understand that gleaning the truth from the iNet is an art. However, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which posters are spewing nonsense, which posters have legitimate problems, and which posters are the resident fan-boys. This is the first time I have been on an Apple forum, and within a week, I developed a list of useless poster names along with names of posters who make meaningful contributions.
BTW - Of the many, many forums I have visited over the years, the Apple forums have been the most hostile. There appears to be a large segment of people who adore Apple products and Apple as a company. That is disappointing that so many people put their unwavering faith in material objects and a corporation and defend them like it was a family member or their god.
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Fact: There are more people moaning about people with faulty iPads than there are people actually with faulty iPads.
Fact: Apple are notorious for poor screens in their iMac and iPhone line, as well as their previous generation of iPads.
Fact: These are mass produced in such high quantities, with such poor quality control, that there are bound to be imprefections.
Fact: Crying about people posting with issues just makes you look like a childish fanboy who cant accept that their precious company produces a few dodgy batches every so often.
Fact: NO ONE SHOULD BE TELLING ANYONE WHAT TO DO. Its their money. If they want perfection in their ridiculously expensive product, then what on earth is wrong with that? I know I do.
Would you buy a £10k car only to find that the back doors had loads of blemishes, and then not bother returning it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd take it straight back and make demands.
Anyway. Congratulations OP, you're the 9000th person to post a completely useless thread like this since the iPad was launched.
Fact: Apple are notorious for poor screens in their iMac and iPhone line, as well as their previous generation of iPads.
Fact: These are mass produced in such high quantities, with such poor quality control, that there are bound to be imprefections.
Fact: Crying about people posting with issues just makes you look like a childish fanboy who cant accept that their precious company produces a few dodgy batches every so often.
Fact: NO ONE SHOULD BE TELLING ANYONE WHAT TO DO. Its their money. If they want perfection in their ridiculously expensive product, then what on earth is wrong with that? I know I do.
Would you buy a £10k car only to find that the back doors had loads of blemishes, and then not bother returning it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd take it straight back and make demands.
Anyway. Congratulations OP, you're the 9000th person to post a completely useless thread like this since the iPad was launched.
I just read somewhere that anyone has the right to be wrong about their opinion but no one has the right to wrong about facts. I think your list of "facts" is spot on!
Overall, Apple products are some of the best built and consistently impressive products ever to hit the market. But do you really believe they'd be so consistantly praised or ranked so highly would be so demanding if the company or it's customers were as complacent as the "Defenders" are?
Blaming the consumer and making excuses for big businesses has NEVER resulted in a better product.
Apple isn't a little kid that needs to be protected from all forms of criticism and negativity, Apple is a grown up company that listens to its customers "complaints" and fixes them. So The problem isn't the nitpicky customers, the problem are the people that think we should lower our expectations in order to spare Apples feelings
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To be honest, I'd happily pay $300-400 more per iPad if Apple seriously upgrades their QA department. I love this device, it is irreplaceable. Sometime last year I said that if Apple ever makes a Retina iPad, I'd gladly pay around $4,000 for it. Hell, remember how expensive a Pentium III powered PC was just a few years ago?
So I'd pay a big premium for better QA.
So I'd pay a big premium for better QA.
Didn't tell anyone to stop making a big deal--just saying that if you open your new iPad, start using it and are happy with it, it's probably best to avoid all the forum complaints. They don't represent the majority.
Feel better? Thanks for the enlightenment and sharing "the secret". I returned three iPad 2's last year because of severe backlight bleed that could be seen in normal lighting conditions at less than 100% brightness: it could be seen as soon as the iPad 2 was turned on and anytime I watched a video with black bars. It was very noticeable, and others could see it without me first pointing it out to them. I settled for the one that had the least backlight bleed, and it was acceptable (to me) compared to the others. I returned a new iPad this year because of a hideous yellow screen: the replacement looks great with absolutely no backlight bleed even at 100% in a dark room. Believe me, I'll return a defective, expensive device regardless of what some self important know-it-all, who believes that they have it all figured out, thinks.
I love your reply, mcdj.
Man ! lol ! This thread is getting Hilarious, I am rolling on the floor Laughing reading to the writing skills of the people here and the one liners and punch line that is coming out here, It makes me laugh till I fall down The latest one comes from @striker33. Good one Mate !
But the best one was from @mcdj "Carpet Bombing from Tim Cook" still can't stop laughing Man that was too good !
The latest one comes from @striker33. Good one Mate !But the best one was from @mcdj "Carpet Bombing from Tim Cook" still can't stop laughing
Man that was too good !
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defects happen on mass produced items, so you can't really knock anyone for making a return when there's a legit problem.
Now, if you've made 2 returns? You're most likely nit picky. More than 2 returns? Well, either you have some of the worst luck in the world, or you have a warped sense of what the device is. Some of the people that have posted about making 5-10 returns? Lunatics.
Now, if you've made 2 returns? You're most likely nit picky. More than 2 returns? Well, either you have some of the worst luck in the world, or you have a warped sense of what the device is. Some of the people that have posted about making 5-10 returns? Lunatics.
Oh please. I've seen your video that shows a color shift at an extreme angle with full brightness on a black screen in the dark.
And this is a shame?
I just can't wait for the day/week/whatever when threads like this start calming down and I can come back to MacRumors for normal discussions instead of seeing 10 new threads a day about doom and gloom. Unfortunately it happens at every product launch.
I have complained about stuff like this too, so I'm not innocent of it either. However, we need to keep in mind that this is not space age screen technology we're working with here. It's still an LCD screen. It's still made by the same manufacturers that make LCD screens for everybody else too. It's not impervious to dead pixels and other defects just because it's placed inside of a product with an Apple logo on the back.
I still stick by my story that there is such a small percentage of people having problems that there is probably no need for Apple to change everything just because a "bad batch" went out. Support forums and blog threads blow these problems up into something that appears bigger than it really is, not because there isn't a problem necessarily, but because it's all you seem to hear about for the first few weeks after launch.
I would just caution anyone who has received their iPad/iPhone/iPod/Mac, taken it out of the packaging, used it, and is happy, to not look at these kinds of threads if possible. It just makes you paranoid and you start looking for things to bitch about.
I didn't receive a 100% perfect "new iPad". Such a beast does not exist in Apple's inventory or in any other company's inventory for any other product. But I have exchanged Apple stuff for very minor nitpicky things, gotten caught up in the "exchange cycle" and sorely regretted it. My retail unit out of the box has always ended up being the one I wish I'd kept.
I'm not saying that you should settle for what you have if something is really bothering you. I'm just saying that I've had personal experience with this. Once you start returning your iPads in search of perfection, things that wouldn't have bugged before will bug the crap out of you. You returned the original hoping the next one would be perfect. Because of this, you will inspect it with a fine tooth comb and you will invariably find something else that bugs you. It will drive you crazy. You have to weigh the perceived problem you're having against the probability that you'll get another iPad with a microscopic imperfection in the metal edge, a milimeter sized imperfection on the bezel glass, etc.
Apple is not perfect. No company is. No manufacturer that any company uses is perfect. No shipping company is perfect. No product is perfect. I don't care how much you paid or who you bought it from. It's not perfect.
Again, you can see by posts I've made in the past about my iPhone 4 and my iPad 2 that I've done my share of whining about small issues. I'm not innocent here either. But I decided to just let it go. These are first world problems and aren't worth the time, effort, or gas money. Hey, if your screen is all pink, by all means, return the damn iPad until you're happy. But if you can let go of some of the other "small stuff" that happens with all products, not just Apple products, you will be a lot happier. And you will come to these kinds of threads and realize how ridiculous you were being.
I have complained about stuff like this too, so I'm not innocent of it either. However, we need to keep in mind that this is not space age screen technology we're working with here. It's still an LCD screen. It's still made by the same manufacturers that make LCD screens for everybody else too. It's not impervious to dead pixels and other defects just because it's placed inside of a product with an Apple logo on the back.
I still stick by my story that there is such a small percentage of people having problems that there is probably no need for Apple to change everything just because a "bad batch" went out. Support forums and blog threads blow these problems up into something that appears bigger than it really is, not because there isn't a problem necessarily, but because it's all you seem to hear about for the first few weeks after launch.
I would just caution anyone who has received their iPad/iPhone/iPod/Mac, taken it out of the packaging, used it, and is happy, to not look at these kinds of threads if possible. It just makes you paranoid and you start looking for things to bitch about.
I didn't receive a 100% perfect "new iPad". Such a beast does not exist in Apple's inventory or in any other company's inventory for any other product. But I have exchanged Apple stuff for very minor nitpicky things, gotten caught up in the "exchange cycle" and sorely regretted it. My retail unit out of the box has always ended up being the one I wish I'd kept.
I'm not saying that you should settle for what you have if something is really bothering you. I'm just saying that I've had personal experience with this. Once you start returning your iPads in search of perfection, things that wouldn't have bugged before will bug the crap out of you. You returned the original hoping the next one would be perfect. Because of this, you will inspect it with a fine tooth comb and you will invariably find something else that bugs you. It will drive you crazy. You have to weigh the perceived problem you're having against the probability that you'll get another iPad with a microscopic imperfection in the metal edge, a milimeter sized imperfection on the bezel glass, etc.
Apple is not perfect. No company is. No manufacturer that any company uses is perfect. No shipping company is perfect. No product is perfect. I don't care how much you paid or who you bought it from. It's not perfect.
Again, you can see by posts I've made in the past about my iPhone 4 and my iPad 2 that I've done my share of whining about small issues. I'm not innocent here either. But I decided to just let it go. These are first world problems and aren't worth the time, effort, or gas money. Hey, if your screen is all pink, by all means, return the damn iPad until you're happy. But if you can let go of some of the other "small stuff" that happens with all products, not just Apple products, you will be a lot happier. And you will come to these kinds of threads and realize how ridiculous you were being.
Man ! lol ! This thread is getting Hilarious, I am rolling on the floor Laughing reading to the writing skills of the people here and the one liners and punch line that is coming out here, It makes me laugh till I fall down
But the best one was from @mcdj "Carpet Bombing from Tim Cook" still can't stop laughing
I hope no one criticizes your writing skills.
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Let's not stereotype OCD sufferers please
I had OCD since I was a kid and I'm still on my first ipad
Agreed. There's a big difference between being anal and suffering from OCD.