Stop being so damn nitpicky

[mcdj]

Sure, you return an iPad once, it can be arrributed to you being unlucky and shipped a faulty model. But anything more than twice, I am inclined to believe that the issue is more of the buyer being needlessly picky and having unrealistic expectations.

I went thru 5 New iPads. #6 finally has an acceptable screen with no major distracting blotchy discoloration (though the slightest change in viewing angle still yields a noticeable color shift). What's so unrealistic about that?

What's unrealistic to me is that both my iPad 1 and 2 were great out of the box, screen quality wise, but that myself and several others here have been thru multiple iPads trying to get one with a comparably evenly colored/lit screen, with more and more people are chiming in every day with the same complaints. And yet, miraculously, the "vast" majority of other iPads are deemed "perfect".

This either indicates that there are mysterious pockets of black clouds of bad luck that follow a select few around the world, from store to store, from batch to batch of iPads, or that the "vast" majority simply can not see the issues we see.

If you blow a dog whistle and only dogs can hear it, that does not mean you are not blowing a whistle.

 

[ristlin]

I went thru 5 New iPads. #6 finally has an acceptable screen with no major distracting blotchy discoloration (though the slightest change in viewing angle still yields a noticeable color shift). What's so unrealistic about that?

What's unrealistic to me is that both my iPad 1 and 2 were great out of the box, screen quality wise, but that myself and several others here have been thru multiple iPads trying to get one with a comparably evenly colored/lit screen, with more and more people are chiming in every day with the same complaints. And yet, miraculously, the "vast" majority of other iPads are deemed "perfect".

This either indicates that there are mysterious pockets of black clouds of bad luck that follow a select few around the world, from store to store, from batch to batch of iPads, or that the "vast" majority simply can not see the issues we see.

I'm sort of glad I didn't buy one this time around. I'm very particular about the details.

 

[spiderman0616]

I went thru 5 New iPads. #6 finally has an acceptable screen with no major distracting blotchy discoloration (though the slightest change in viewing angle still yields a noticeable color shift). What's so unrealistic about that?

What's unrealistic to me is that both my iPad 1 and 2 were great out of the box, screen quality wise, but that myself and several others here have been thru multiple iPads trying to get one with a comparably evenly colored/lit screen, with more and more people are chiming in every day with the same complaints. And yet, miraculously, the "vast" majority of other iPads are deemed "perfect".

This either indicates that there are mysterious pockets of black clouds of bad luck that follow a select few around the world, from store to store, from batch to batch of iPads, or that the "vast" majority simply can not see the issues we see.

It's not that they can't see the issues that you see. It's that you're now looking for things like this and you're never NOT going to see it no matter how many iPads you get. Regular Joes aren't going to notice/care about this nitpicky stuff.

 

[mcdj]

It's not that they can't see the issues that you see. It's that you're now looking for things like this and you're never NOT going to see it no matter how many iPads you get. Regular Joes aren't going to notice/care about this nitpicky stuff.

I basically agree with you. But most people don't present your argument this way. Those of us who are sensitive to color (I'm a photo retoucher by trade) are labled OCD, pathetic, needlessly picky, unrealistic, etc.

If I had not been picky, I would not being enjoying my new iPad. And in fact, while on the hunt for an acceptable one, I did not enjoy it much at all.

 

[vjacques]

mcdj,

i love your contribution to this whole screen issue and wholeheartedly agree.

 

[augustya]

@mcdj

You have a Fan Following now happening

 

[MacAuditor]

I've owned all 3 iPads and all on launch day. I've thoroughly enjoyed all of them and am loving the iPad 3. The secret? Its just a piece of technology not some bloody work of art or priceless artifact. Its a mass produced electronic from China that is bound to have imperfections just by logic.

It's beyond imperfections. Not when you get:

- LED light exposure under the bezel. It looks discusting. This is not backlight bleed.
- Excessive backlight bleeds / flashlights
- Uneven tints
- Uneven whites (dimmed areas)
- Specks of dusts under the screen
- Dried snot and other unwanted liquids, such as saliva under the screen.
- Streak marks under the screen.

 

[iHeartsteve]

mcdj,

i love your contribution to this whole screen issue and wholeheartedly agree.

I think he should be our rep to Apple for these screen issues!! I vote for you!

You should combine some of these great repsonses into a letter to apple

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If you blow a dog whistle and only dogs can hear it, that does not mean you are not blowing a whistle.

Perfect analogy!! I think that as long as someone doesn't return/exchange their ipad for some minute cosmetic issue, thats not OCD. Having large tints on a computer screen, dead pixels, wifi dropping etc are functionality defects. Yes the screen still works if its pink, green, or yellow but its not supposed to be there.

Why should be we put up with faulty product b/c vast majority doesn't notice it?

Im an apple fan however, as I thought before the launch date. apple really should have waited to get the QA on the screens perfect. I'm sure in apples eyes, it didn't matter to have 20% bad ipads as the majority would not SEE the issue.

 

[augustya]

I think he should be our rep to Apple for these screen issues!! I vote for you!

You should combine some of these great repsonses into a letter to apple

Why to Apple in general why not to his all time favourite icon Mr. Tim Cook who according to him has done carpet bombing of defective iPad's in America & North America, Europe without giving too much emphasis to quality thinking people are just gonna buy it as long as it is Apple.

I can give him Tim Cook's Email ID

 

[iHeartsteve]

Why to Apple in general why not to his all time favourite icon Mr. Tim Cook who according to him has done carpet bombing of iPad's in America & North America, Europe without giving too much emphasis to quality thinking people are just gonna buy it as long as it is Apple.

I can give him Tim Cook's Email ID

lol do it....Also included in email:

Apple should address all these defects to instore employees. Apple genius should consider a pink, green or yellow screen to be defective whereas the customers should be allowed as many exchanges until a working, pristine ipad is recieved.

 

[augustya]

lol do it....Also included in email:

Apple should address all these defects to instore employees. Apple genius should consider a pink, green or yellow screen to be defective whereas the customers should be allowed as many exchanges until a working, pristine ipad is recieved.

@mcdj do u have the content of mail ready ?

 

[iHeartsteve]

Who exactly said it was an issue or not right?

Mister 6 returns?

Looking at these display's at severe angles...that seems like an everyday use right.......not!

Basically if my previous pink screen ipad was not held at perfect 90 deg position (in relation to my arm) the screen was tinted. no one views their ipad in this perfect 90 deg angle.

I dont think mcdj meant that he views it at some bizarre 20 deg angle where you can't even view the text clearly.

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Why to Apple in general why not to his all time favourite icon Mr. Tim Cook who according to him has done carpet bombing of defective iPad's in America & North America, Europe without giving too much emphasis to quality thinking people are just gonna buy it as long as it is Apple.

I can give him Tim Cook's Email ID

what is the email?? LOL Tim.cook@apple.com HAHAHAH

 

[augustya]

what is the email?? LOL Tim.cook@apple.com HAHAHAH

Nope can't disclose it in public with Apple creating so much revenue for itself and the Unites States Government what if they order a CIA led operation to hunt me down just like they did of some Mr. xxxxx called the operation Abbotabad

 

[mcdj]

Why to Apple in general why not to his all time favourite icon Mr. Tim Cook who according to him has done carpet bombing of defective iPad's in America & North America, Europe without giving too much emphasis to quality thinking people are just gonna buy it as long as it is Apple.

I can give him Tim Cook's Email ID

been there done that. emailed him last week. got a call from corporate. very nice fellow in TX. asked me to send him pics. he showed the pics to engineering. their response..."it's within spec. it is not a pro level device".

next day I took my ipad out of the exchange cycle and returned it, then bought another. another return/buy yielded the final acceptable one

 

[WeegieMac]

The one that stood out for me was noticing light leakage when the brightness was up full, in a pitch black room, with the iPad held at an slanted angle close to your face.

I mean, come on people, is that NORMAL iPad use conditions? No.

My iPad is some 2-3 weeks from estimated delivery, and when I read of people exchanging up to 11 (as one person on here said ... ELEVEN!), you've got to wonder if it's having any impact on the flow of new units to stores and online orders.

 

[dstar]

Count me as one of the folks with a black cloud following them around...

I had been through three of the new iPads. I personally don't mind the warmer color, but what I can't accept is the pink/greenish tinting when viewing PDF files in portrait mode.

Any slight movement of the iPad and I would see color shifting. The main reason for me wanting the new iPad is for the crispness of the text that makes reading in portrait mode much easier than on the lower resolution iPad 2 screen.

If that color shifting/tint is an artifact of the screen technology that can't be avoided then I won't buy one again in the future. I ended up returning my last one for a refund.

 

[augustya]

been there done that. emailed him last week. got a call from corporate. very nice fellow in TX. asked me to send him pics. he showed the pics to engineering. their response..."it's within spec. it is not a pro level device".

next day I took my ipad out of the exchange cycle and returned it, then bought another. another return/buy yielded the final acceptable one

Whoa ! Bro @MCDJ r u serious ?? U r not pulling my leg ain't u ? Did u actually do it ? U must tell all of us more about it Dude !

 

[WeegieMac]

I think the poster nikos on this forum is the video poster. Saw some one call him out on this video. The problem seems really minute. But if there is a better screen like my older iPads the. I would prefer that too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wP6vj2dxv8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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I saw the video as well, so I tested mine out while lying here in bed and I get the same results as him. I'm wondering if it's a few units or maybe they are all like this... My screen is perfect otherwise. Can't see pink on white. Only on black and most noticeable at high brightness. I am wondering if this is an LED issue instead of a screen issue. Saw another post where they mention having some color LEDs compensate to make white.

From a different thread.

That video is ... well, unbelievable.

Again, when there is content ON the screen it looks fine in that video. The shot of the App Store with Epoch being advertised, the whites look fine on there.

Who is going to sit with the power on, with a black screen, tilting it from side to side. I'll tilt it when there's content on the screen, so if this is such a huge issue, why doesn't the guy put content on the screen, the shift it to see if the picture becomes tinted pink or green depending on direction?

I would say with something on screen, the tint isn't even noticeable.

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This forum seems to be the only place where this "problem" is being discussed or "reported". Surely if the screen had a major issue, we'd have another Antennagate style media frenzy by now?

 

[augustya]

been there done that. emailed him last week. got a call from corporate. very nice fellow in TX. asked me to send him pics. he showed the pics to engineering. their response..."it's within spec. it is not a pro level device".

next day I took my ipad out of the exchange cycle and returned it, then bought another. another return/buy yielded the final acceptable one

Actually I also got the same answer when last week I called up Apple Tech support the guy asked me to send pictures which I did later he said he checked with the Engineering Team and they said it is well within Apple's specifications and he tried hard to convince me it is just matter of different perception ! And I was like WTF ! What perception it is reality !

 

[iHeartsteve]

That video is ... well, unbelievable.

Again, when there is content ON the screen it looks fine in that video. The shot of the App Store with Epoch being advertised, the whites look fine on there.

Who is going to sit with the power on, with a black screen, tilting it from side to side. I'll tilt it when there's content on the screen, so if this is such a huge issue, why doesn't the guy put content on the screen, the shift it to see if the picture becomes tinted pink or green depending on direction?

I would say with something on screen, the tint isn't even noticeable.

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This forum seems to be the only place where this "problem" is being discussed or "reported". Surely if the screen had a major issue, we'd have another Antennagate style media frenzy by now?

Theres a huge thread of the yellow tint on the apple.com page

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3810949?start=330&tstart=0

 

[bruinsrme]

I've owned all 3 iPads and all on launch day. I've thoroughly enjoyed all of them and am loving the iPad 3. The secret? Its just a piece of technology not some bloody work of art or priceless artifact. Its a mass produced electronic from China that is bound to have imperfections just by logic. The people on here that spend a sad amount of time dwelling on minor light leakage or little things are doing themselves a disservice. Just use the thing and move on with your lives. If you're not going to be satisfied until you have the perfect one you'll be waiting for ever.

Thank you for setting me straight.

I personally think that an $800+ device should not be less than perfect.

 

[apple4kim]

I went thru 5 New iPads. #6 finally has an acceptable screen with no major distracting blotchy discoloration (though the slightest change in viewing angle still yields a noticeable color shift). What's so unrealistic about that?

What's unrealistic to me is that both my iPad 1 and 2 were great out of the box, screen quality wise, but that myself and several others here have been thru multiple iPads trying to get one with a comparably evenly colored/lit screen, with more and more people are chiming in every day with the same complaints. And yet, miraculously, the "vast" majority of other iPads are deemed "perfect".

This either indicates that there are mysterious pockets of black clouds of bad luck that follow a select few around the world, from store to store, from batch to batch of iPads, or that the "vast" majority simply can not see the issues we see.

If you blow a dog whistle and only dogs can hear it, that does not mean you are not blowing a whistle.

How can you go through 5 of them. My friend told me that the second time he's trying to exchange for one in an Apple store, the attendant told him: ok, we can open one for you, but this is the last one we can give you for free exchange.

 

[WeegieMac]

Theres a huge thread of the yellow tint on the apple.com page

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3810949?start=330&tstart=0

I just picked up my iPhone 4 there, right? I held it almost level with my right eye, and began tilting it while holding it flat/horizontal. The colours, from a tight angle and side on, change. There is a slightly noticeable, more reddish tint viewing the right side of the screen, and a greenish/blue tint when viewing the left side. Front front on, it's perfect and I'd never have even looked at my iPhone 4 the way I just did had I not read this iPad thread.

Now, my 16GB iPhone 4 has a glorious screen. The whites are proper white, but my Father in Law who recently got the 8GB iPhone 4 has a very noticeable yellow tinge to his screen, but he says he prefers the "warmer tones" of his screen. Side by side, there is a huge difference, but he's not overly concerned of fussed.

 

[Giov]

Sorry to say, not wanting trapped dust underneath the screen isn't being nitpicky. It shouldn't be there in the first place and it isnt about limitation of the technology. Hence, it isnt as good as it can get. It should do better than that.

 

[WeegieMac]

It's going to be fun and games when my 64GB WiFi and "Super Fast 3G" model arrives from Apple. Every new iPad I've looked at, be it in the Apple Store in Glasgow, the local Tesco Extra store, or the 3 store, has looked fantastic.

Oh well, 2 to 3 weeks to go.