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Stop saying the Apple Watch is ugly
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Even when you work out?
Surely there is enough room for apple watch in a gentleman's watch collection.
I don't need a smart watch for workouts...
Didn't need it for 30 years and I doubt that I will do need it now. But I guess the young hipsters will go for it
I don't need a smart watch for workouts...
Didn't need it for 30 years and I doubt that I will do need it now. But I guess the young hipsters will go for it
Meh.
I have real watches too, but look forward to wearing the Apple Watch at times.
It will be a fun little gadget to play with for only $350 starting price, less than it costs to service my Patek.
I think what makes it look ugly is some of the unflattering photos of it. In many cases, the watch looks extremely thick -- like 15-20mm. Based on some analysis, the watch is supposedly around ~10-11mm thick, which based on my Hamilton Khaki Automatic, is a very good thickness for a watch.
Another thing to note is the design. I certainly was not expecting the Apple Watch's design to mirror the first iPhone or earlier iPod designs. But, if you think about it, it does make sense for apple. They already know how to make that chassis work; they've used it on a number of products before. It's also a good-looking design that allows for more volume for possibly the less-than-refined internals.
I would not be surprised if the Apple Watch 2 came with a whole new design that mirrors the iPad Air or iPhone 6 with a much thinner profile.
Another thing to note is the design. I certainly was not expecting the Apple Watch's design to mirror the first iPhone or earlier iPod designs. But, if you think about it, it does make sense for apple. They already know how to make that chassis work; they've used it on a number of products before. It's also a good-looking design that allows for more volume for possibly the less-than-refined internals.
I would not be surprised if the Apple Watch 2 came with a whole new design that mirrors the iPad Air or iPhone 6 with a much thinner profile.
This!
As a fellow watch nut, this can just be one in the rotation. At $350 it is a cheap price of admission compared to the Omegas, Rolex, PP we would regularly buy. Worse case we do not like it, just return it. Try returning a $10k Rolex after wearing it for a week, not happening!
I don't need a smart watch for workouts...
Didn't need it for 30 years and I doubt that I will do need it now. But I guess the young hipsters will go for it
You don't need it but it does collect valuable data about your HR, Pace etc.. This could help you maximize your workout by keeping your HR in certain zone. It is also interesting to keep records and track your progress.
Edit : I remember a time when people use to claims that they don't need smartphones but just a regular phone with an 1" screen was all they would ever need. We all know how that mindset has changed overtime. Watches wearer are very conservative to begin with. So of course, they are going to be opposed to it. Overtime, they will changed their mind. Wearable technology is the next big thing and this is only the beginning.
I was surprised how important a sized down version of a watch was. I also knew a guy that had very small wrists and he sometimes wore a 'womens' style watch because the 'mens' styles looked like a Frisbee on his wrist. I have a Heuer that is rather large on my wrist. It's a 'jumbo' size and apparently wasn't available in a smaller size for some reason.
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Someone got a Pebble and wore it for a while, and then stopped. The reasons were that it took too long to charge, it was annoying how it felt, and behaved. It also 'felt cheap', and fragile so they stopped.
All big issues the iWatch(?) will face.
I think of it as a retro look, bulky, so far, and not a 'game changer'. But thinking about it, what would be a 'game changer' in a niche market with so many players already... I guess if it is reliable, that would be enough for some.
I ran into someone that was discussing something to do with today's culture, and I weighed in on the 'old school' angle, and was dismissed out of hand because I was 'old fashioned' because I still wore a watch. When I questioned their logic, I was informed that their phone had a clock on it, making the watch superfluous.
If all the 'Apple Watch' does is run some canned apps, 'special' apps, and tell you that you just got a call from Joe, or a message from Lisa, or email from Nigel, it's got a long hard slog to get to be 'The Device' of the next x-number of years.
No, because I ain't wearing two watches at the same time.
Also, the Apple Watch is ugly
One can never have too many watches.
I have over 15.
I don't understand people who think that just because they have one mechanical watch, that means they cannot own a cheap Apple Watch that costs less than servicing a uncomplicated high-end mechanical watch (around 500-1500).
This.
My Casio 15€ watch gets somewhat as much as wrist time as my Omega Speedy Pro...
And yes, there's no such thing as "too many watches" for a man, guess that's like there's no such thing as "too many handbags" for a woman.
It's a good thing there are so many arbiters of taste in this thread to tell us poor plebs what looks good and what doesn't.
I love the look of the Apple Watch. While it may have some thickness to it, I see guys wearing monster watches with massive faces and about 10,000 dials crammed into it. I don't know how they can even tell the time on those things. The Apple Watch is far more sleek and refined than those monstrosities.
And I agree with some of the other members here. Most watch people (not just people who still wear a watch, but people who enjoy the aesthetics and functions of different timepieces) have multiple watches that they rotate through depending on their outfit or activity or just how they're feeling that day. Those people will think nothing of dropping some cash on an Apple Watch. They won't wear it all the time, but they will wear it.
The thing is though, I'm guessing most watch people would want the stainless steel watch, not the Sport. The Sport is the one that costs $350. If the stainless steel is as expensive as a nice mechanical watch, the watch people may opt for the mechanical watch instead.
I love the look of the Apple Watch. While it may have some thickness to it, I see guys wearing monster watches with massive faces and about 10,000 dials crammed into it. I don't know how they can even tell the time on those things. The Apple Watch is far more sleek and refined than those monstrosities.
And I agree with some of the other members here. Most watch people (not just people who still wear a watch, but people who enjoy the aesthetics and functions of different timepieces) have multiple watches that they rotate through depending on their outfit or activity or just how they're feeling that day. Those people will think nothing of dropping some cash on an Apple Watch. They won't wear it all the time, but they will wear it.
The thing is though, I'm guessing most watch people would want the stainless steel watch, not the Sport. The Sport is the one that costs $350. If the stainless steel is as expensive as a nice mechanical watch, the watch people may opt for the mechanical watch instead.
I think the steel will be nicer than any similarly priced stainless steel watch.
Apple has the economy of scale unlike any other watch company besides maybe rolex and omega, which are significantly more upmarket.
But as a watch lover, I might still opt for the sport version.
I don't like the idea of having an obsolete watch in one year unless the cost is minimal ($350).
I have a feeling the watches won't become obsolete so fast. Apple has seen slowdowns in iPad sales as people hold onto theirs much longer than they do phones. I think the watches will be the same, especially as they're meant to be fashion devices as well as functional ones.
Also, let's be fair. Releasing a new model does not make the last model obsolete, especially for Apple. iOS 8 has support for phones going back to the 4S, and the problems iOS 8 has on the 4S will likely be mitigated in a watch form factor. The reason iOS 8 is a bad idea on the 4S is because the newer phones are both bigger and have significantly better internals. Because watches have to fit on wrists, they can't get too much bigger, and because they have to stay the same size, Apple has to fit any improvements into the same space, which may prove to be more difficult than on a more expansive space of a phone (especially since you can increase the overall size of a phone). I can guarantee the biggest complaint on the watch will be battery life, so the focus on the next gen will be battery. The rest of the internals may only get minor spec bumps.
So it's possible that the 1st gen Apple Watch could be working well for several years. If Apple is expecting people to upgrade each year, then I'd agree, go with the cheapest one and swap it out next year. But I think they're going to be playing a different game than they do with iPhones.
Also, let's be fair. Releasing a new model does not make the last model obsolete, especially for Apple. iOS 8 has support for phones going back to the 4S, and the problems iOS 8 has on the 4S will likely be mitigated in a watch form factor. The reason iOS 8 is a bad idea on the 4S is because the newer phones are both bigger and have significantly better internals. Because watches have to fit on wrists, they can't get too much bigger, and because they have to stay the same size, Apple has to fit any improvements into the same space, which may prove to be more difficult than on a more expansive space of a phone (especially since you can increase the overall size of a phone). I can guarantee the biggest complaint on the watch will be battery life, so the focus on the next gen will be battery. The rest of the internals may only get minor spec bumps.
So it's possible that the 1st gen Apple Watch could be working well for several years. If Apple is expecting people to upgrade each year, then I'd agree, go with the cheapest one and swap it out next year. But I think they're going to be playing a different game than they do with iPhones.
You can't contradict yourself like that!
Logic is weird here.
We are on iPhone 6, and iPad 6 (ish)
And you say, well year, people are not upgrading so much now.
Correct, that's BECAUSE we are on version 6 and it becomes harder and harder as time goes on the make the BIG jumps in size/shape/performance that you did way back when the products just came out for the 1st 3 years or more.
You can't then use that logic on the watch which is a new version 1 product, like the iPad1 or iPhone1
The watch is ripe for major improvements in it's early years, like the other products. Apple should have people now, in a back room somewhere testing out tech and designs for Apple Watch v2 already.
By the time we are at Apple Watch 6, THEN your views above will be correct, the product will be mature, they will start hitting the limits of what can be done and/or thought up to fit into a watch.
MAJOR mistakes, the WILL made will be sorted out, features everyone wanted but Apple didn't want to put in, will be put in.
It's going to take a few years and a few versions to get this all smoothed out to the level the iPhone, iPad, iMac etc are at.
this is the reason why I can't imagine myself buying a gold apple watch.
a gold patek, rolex, lange will still be gold patek/rolex/lange 30 years later.
a 30 year old gold apple watch will have blown battery with dead circuits and parts nobody makes anymore. a complete deadweight.
I don't see how I'm contradicting myself. I'm saying that the Apple Watch could have a different upgrade path than the other iDevices. I am acknowledging that the other devices are easier to upgrade, which makes the old ones feel obsolete faster.
Regardless, my main point is that a device isn't obsolete the moment the next iteration comes out. It may not have the top specs or every feature of the latest version, but that's far different from obsolescence.
It's just that you say the Watch may not upgrade so fast as iPhone and iPad's are not being updated so fast, which is true NOW, as they have been thru the rapid change early years, and now years on, people are seeing the difference each year is getting less and less which is true.
You can't equate that to the watch as the watch IS in it's early years.
So logic would say that by year 5 or 6 ish, watch upgrading will slow down like the iphone and iPad, as by then the watch, like those 2 devices, also will have smaller differences form model to model.
Of course, nothing is guaranteed, so we shall all have to wait and see,
My logic is, that. some people say, oh no, Apple are going to stick with the same model for 2 to 3 years, and have a slow upgrade cycle.
Well, sure, if Apple were the only company on the planet.
Rivals are not going to sit still whilst Apple does.
they will be using new tech, curved flexible screens, new batter tech, new sensors all the time, and if Apple just sits there, they will look old fast.
I don't think Apple can afford to just sit still on version 1 like many seem to think they will.
You can't equate that to the watch as the watch IS in it's early years.
So logic would say that by year 5 or 6 ish, watch upgrading will slow down like the iphone and iPad, as by then the watch, like those 2 devices, also will have smaller differences form model to model.
Of course, nothing is guaranteed, so we shall all have to wait and see,
My logic is, that. some people say, oh no, Apple are going to stick with the same model for 2 to 3 years, and have a slow upgrade cycle.
Well, sure, if Apple were the only company on the planet.
Rivals are not going to sit still whilst Apple does.
they will be using new tech, curved flexible screens, new batter tech, new sensors all the time, and if Apple just sits there, they will look old fast.
I don't think Apple can afford to just sit still on version 1 like many seem to think they will.
Before noticing the title of this topic, I never said that the watch is ugly.
Starting a 'stop' topic telling everyone to shut up is never likely to have the desired effect.
Now I reckon, the Apple Watch is ugly
I think you're misunderstanding my point. I'm saying that changes to the watch may be less dramatic than any generation of the iPhone or iPad line because of the physical limitations of the watch form factor. Apple can get away with larger phones, but they can't get away with larger watches.
That's true.
They will add features but not size.
Form factor could be different but it should not grow larger.
I suspect these features might be in store in the future
-longer battery life, faster processor, etc
-more accurate sensors and maybe new kinds of sensors including GPS etc (but since they have to be non invasive, glucose monitoring will be difficult without digging into the skin)
-maybe a wrist band form factor
-ability to work without the iPhone at all... Maybe through itunes?
I know you can put cellular radios in a device that small, but I'm sure the carriers would require another data plan for it like they do with tablets. Plus I can't think of many places I'd take my watch but not my phone, so I'm actually not clamoring for a wholly independent device at the moment.
What about the VAST majority of people who choose other brands instead of Apple mobiles?
Do we think Apple does not ever wish to be able to offer the watch to those?
Or do you feel it wishes to limit it's potential sales to only a percentage of it's own phone users?
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It's funny.
Apple did not 'Get Away' with larger phones because they needed to fit more in, so needed the space.
Consumers have proved, that in general they hate small screens.
In most things small screens are always worse than large screens.
You only 'Put Up' with a small screen as you can't fit a larger screen into the particular device you are dealing with.
It's been shown across many products, people like a large screen. It's easier to see. Obviously. And it's easier to use, if it's a touch screen.
I would question NOW that the Apple watch's screen is too small.
Not the device. The larger size is probably borderline getting near the upper range, but I may be wrong.
But I would myself say the whole front needs to be screen, otherwise the screen is wasted.
The Moto 360, which people hate has that aspect right, other than the bottom in that they have done everything to make the most of the size of the device, and offer the user the most usable screen area.
There is no point in making a watch, then making the screen smaller, inside the size of the device, with frame and dead bezel areas between the two.
When people render things that can't be made, they ususualy do this as that's what people dream of having.
Hopefully tech will allow this to happen soon.
I recall liking the looks of this type of thing –
– but it wasn't particularly practical or durable.
In the early 1980s I had a couple similar to the one below. Reasonably stylish, good for telling the time, reasonably durable – lasted probably fifteen years or more.
Apple, Bang & Olufsen, Braun, Dieter Rams and memorable objects – some links to images of retro Braun watches.
