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Ben DID pass the threshold. All you have to do is pause it to see that one.

And a push off is a push off. Just depends if they decide to call it. He was right in front of the official.
 
ScruffyTheMac said:
Nothing like a Patriots "pull victory from the jaws of defeat" field goal at the last possible second.
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Hey, my team lost last year, but at least I felt like they had a chance until that INT with about 40 seconds left. It gave excitement to fans on both sides and even neutral people. I felt like the 'hawks lost it before the 4th quarter even started.
 
decksnap said:
And a push off is a push off. Just depends if they decide to call it. He was right in front of the official.
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The problem was both players had their hands out there. When both players are pushing each other, I don't see why you can pick one out to penalize and not the other.
 
You're right, I rate this as the second to worst sport that I know of, behind Aussie Rules. Thats just my opinion.

But I stand by my other comments, in other sports (namely non-American sports) the coaches/players generally don't overly celebrate a win, until it it just that. Even when it is impossible for the opposition to win, its called Sportmanship, giving respect.

The Star Bangled Banner, was swung?! Its not exactly a jazzy piece.

A jeep as a prize? Good to see USA doing their part for the shortage of fuel and global warming.

Enjoy the win, respect the defeated.
 
Ed H said:
The Steelers owe the officials a lot, without their bad calls the Seahawks would have won.

Ben never passed the threshold, so - 7 but they probbaly would have gotten the FG so +3 that would put the Steelers at 17

The touchdown they took from Seattle was absurd, along with other stupid calls. if anything it would have made for a overtime game, but more likely than not the seahawks would have won.

The officials made the Steelers the winners in this game unfortunately. really really bad game calls.

Ed
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Even if there was any grounds to say that the ball didn't break the plane of the goal, the call on the field was a touchdown, so there has to be indesputable evidence to overturn the call. Let's face it, this was another good offense vs good defense matchup, just like Super Bowl XXXVII with the Bucs and the Raiders. Defense wins it every time, as proven once again. :cool:
 
pknz said:
You're right, I rate this as the second to worst sport that I know of, behind Aussie Rules. Thats just my opinion.
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If you don't like football, why are you taking part in a thread totallly dedicated to it. :confused:

But I stand by my other comments, in other sports (namely non-American sports) the coaches/players generally don't overly celebrate a win, until it it just that. Even when it is impossible for the opposition to win, its called Sportmanship, giving respect.
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When you give your sweat, tear, blood, pain, and life toward something, you have every right to celebrate. Only someone who doesn't care would be able to put off celebrating winning the biggest game in their sport.
 
pknz said:
Even when it is impossible for the opposition to win, its called Sportmanship, giving respect.
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In football, it is within the bounds of good sportsmanship. This happens in most every game.
 
dsharits said:
Even if there was any grounds to say that the ball didn't break the plane of the goal, the call on the field was a touchdown, so there has to be indesputable evidence to overturn the call.
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While I know exactly what you are talking about, I used TiVo to slow down the already slowed down replay. There was no way that that football crossed the plain.
 
I'm looking right at it. It crossed. It only has to TOUCH the edge of the white line.
 
decksnap said:
I'm looking right at it. It crossed. It only has to TOUCH the edge of the white line.
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Correct, it only has to touch the plain formed by a 90 degree angle to the field at the inside edge of the white line. But we could argue it if did until we all turn blue. It won't change anything.
 
steelers! w00t!

i've still got the terrible towel my grandma gave me in the 70's.

w000000t!!!!!!!
 
grapes911 said:
Correct, it only has to touch the plain formed by a 90 degree angle to the field at the inside edge of the white line. But we could argue it if did until we all turn blue. It won't change anything.
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I'm pretty sure it's the outside edge of the white line. And that would account for the difference of opinion I guess.
 
That ball did not touch the line....he had that cocked up under him and he went down.....that was in plain site but its over now so let it go.

Heres hoping for Dolphins or Giants next year.


Bless
 
decksnap said:
I'm pretty sure it's the outside edge of the white line. And that would account for the difference of opinion I guess.
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It's definitely the inside edge of the line. By inside edge I'm referring to the edge of the line closest to the 50 yard line. The edge most inside of the field.
 
Digest of Rules
Field
1. Sidelines and end lines are out of bounds. The goal line is actually in the end zone. A player with the ball in his possession scores a touchdown when the ball is on, above, or over the goal line.
 
2nyRiggz said:
That ball did not touch the line....he had that cocked up under him and he went down.....that was in plain site but its over now so let it go.

Heres hoping for Dolphins or Giants next year.


Bless
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The ball can cross at any time before the player is down. If you look closely, I believe the ball does cross while Ben is still in the air, which does count for a touchdown.
 
igucl said:
The ball can cross at any time before the player is down. If you look closely, I believe the ball does cross while Ben is still in the air, which does count for a touchdown.
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Yes the ball can break the plain in the air so as long as he had possession its a touchdown even in he's pushed back. The forward progress is what counts.
 
igucl said:
I believe the ball does cross while Ben is still in the air, which does count for a touchdown.
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the first couple times i saw the replay, i thought it did not cross. but you're right, if you look carefully, JUST before the defender hits roethlisberger, a part of the ball (not the tip) just barely breaks the plane.

i agree that the offensive interference call taking away the seahawks touchdown was lame. i also feel that, on the 76-yd interception return, the seahawks should have been called for a block in the back when roethlisberger was pushed down. the low-block call against hasselbeck was lame. the overturn on the hasselbeck fumble was correct.

would all of that changed the outcome? dunno. on the roethlisberger TD, there's very good change they would have punched it through on fourth down. on the taken-away TD, the seahawks did get a FG, so it was a 4 point play. would that have been enough for a seahawk win? dunno, it would have changed a lot of playcalling, i think. impossible to say.
 
Well just in from watching the game in a bar with a mixture of Steeler and Seahawk fans.

General consensus that the Steelers did enough to win - that Randel El pass play was sweet but there were some odd calls. Namely, Seattle's first TD coming back and a couple of takles that were flagged.

I didn't mind Ben's TD - as I pointed out to those in the bar screaming for review, it can be a cm of the ball going over a cm of the line... Having said that, if they'd ruled him down on the 1, I don't think they could have overturned it the other way either.

As for the comments on the UK TV, if you were watching SKY with the UK commentary team, I wouldn't be the least surprised. They're not the greatest.

As for those slagging off the game, chill. American football is one of the most exciting sports in the world (and you're speaking to a girl who grew up with soccer and still loves rugby union) - it looks 'stop and start' and 'lots of padding' if you're not really up on the rules. Once you understand the strategy and techniques, you'll understand why both happen and it becomes a fascinating game.

With 20 seconds to go, no timeouts and two scores needed, Seattle weren't coming back. Cowher getting his Gatorade bath then was, by no means, disrespectful. I'm glad for him and for the Rooney family. It's good with a team which helped shape the league gets its rewards.
 
Applespider said:
....With 20 seconds to go, no timeouts and two scores needed, Seattle weren't coming back. Cowher getting his Gatorade bath then was, by no means, disrespectful. I'm glad for him and for the Rooney family. It's good with a team which helped shape the league gets its rewards.
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You go, girl. I agree. I wish I would have put some $$ on my guess last Friday. https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/2112225/
Congratulations to the Steelers!
 
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