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Supplies of 15-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Continue to Tighten Ahead of Broadwell Refresh
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The next processor update choice for the "15 inch MacBook Pro all depends on Apple's motives. If they want to truly update the machine they will wait for Skylake, which includes thunderbolt 3, improved power, efficiency and battery life. It also has wireless charging (if Apple activates it), wireless connection to monitors, and can run DDR4 memory. This is the best upgrade choice for consumers. However, Intel is trying to get ride of broadwell to make room for skylake which means Apple can purchase the broadwell chips at a great discount. Doing this increases profit margins. So I wouldn't be surprised if Apple chooses Broadwell.
Apple would be shooting itself in the foot if they don't upgrade the rMBP; the current 15-inch model is outdated for a $2k+ computer.
Put in a Broadwell quad-core chip when they become available and refresh the GPU asap, then upgrade everything again when Skylake is out next year.
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For CPUs sure, but what about the outdated GPUs used in many models?
Put in a Broadwell quad-core chip when they become available and refresh the GPU asap, then upgrade everything again when Skylake is out next year.
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For CPUs sure, but what about the outdated GPUs used in many models?
The Retina iMac uses desktop-class CPUs. I may be interpreting your post incorrectly, but you seem to be implying the iMac uses laptop CPUs.
That, as well as the model number that comes after i3 or i5 or i7.
Sandy Bridge:
i7 2600k/2700k
Ivy Bridge:
i7 3770k
Haswell:
i7 4770k/4790k
There are desktop models as I'm more familiar with their number scheme, but you get the idea.
Back on topic... Intel has delayed broadwell for so long now that I'm skipping it entirely and waiting for Skylake. I think it's entirely possible Apple won't bother with a mid cycle refresh this year. Or more accurately, the mid cycle refresh may be skylake vs merely higher clocked broadwell CPU.
What about Mac Mini!
I hope this isn't serious. Everyone knows where the Mac Mini falls as a priority for Apple. Get used to it, lol.
Most Apple customers will not buy an upgraded Mac if the only upgrade was a bump in GPU. In fact, many would complain - like many do here.
That would make me happy, a 17 inch even better, but I could live with 16 inch. People that want small have iDevices, people that need portable real computers need more.
Heh, I've got an early 2011 and my wife's is a 2009. I'm hoping for a decent upgrade so I can give her mine and her sister will get hers. Her sister's is from 2004.
Let's all try to remember that our wait is an upper middle class, first world problem.
From a low-tech graphic chic
I have a layman's question, sorry if this has been asked but I did not see anything similar. Does/will the suspected chip difference (Broadwell vs Skylake) really make a noticeable difference for a Graphics and photography driven user? I'm curious about short term and long-term.
I work with some very large files, sometimes designing larger than life murals in adobe. I use almost no animation but that could change in the future. I have a higher end 27" mac purchased about 1 year ago but I do work a lot from my laptop also while on site or traveling, so its a work horse.
My current laptop in 5 years old and I hate the thought of waiting an entire year to upgrade, 2 months, even 6 would be an option but a year or more sounds like toucher, my late 2009 just can't keep up with the software I use any more.
Any thoughts my tech friends?
I have a layman's question, sorry if this has been asked but I did not see anything similar. Does/will the suspected chip difference (Broadwell vs Skylake) really make a noticeable difference for a Graphics and photography driven user? I'm curious about short term and long-term.
I work with some very large files, sometimes designing larger than life murals in adobe. I use almost no animation but that could change in the future. I have a higher end 27" mac purchased about 1 year ago but I do work a lot from my laptop also while on site or traveling, so its a work horse.
My current laptop in 5 years old and I hate the thought of waiting an entire year to upgrade, 2 months, even 6 would be an option but a year or more sounds like toucher, my late 2009 just can't keep up with the software I use any more.
Any thoughts my tech friends?
Should do, if the 13" is anything to go by.
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The unibody MacBook Pro was released in 2008.
The thinner, Retina MacBook Pro was release in 2012.
On that time frame, next year?
I'm still amazed I'm going to buy a 15" Retina MBP and it will weigh the same as my current MacBook.
Sounds like you'd benefit more from the graphics chip upgrade that should come along with the next big update. Whether that will come with a small CPU bump (e.g Broadwel) or the bigger Skylake one is still unknown to us. Likely you'll have to wait 6 months until Skylake when Apple puts in a 900 series NVIDIA chip. That would be a big boost in CPU, GPU, and battery life. Worth waiting for it if you can limp along on the 2009 or buy a interim machine with plans to sell at a loss.
The timing is excellent. I'm in the market to upgrade from an early 2011 15" MBP. Not too hung up on Broadwell vs Skylake considering the Sandy Bridge i7 it's packing is still going strong. Wouldn't mind a matte option on that retina display, though...
If there was ever a Mac product that would have an ARM chip, it would have been the new MacBook. But, no.
If you chose upgradability you should consider putting an SSD in it and upgrading the RAM. I have a 15" 2012 cMBP and I put the 1TB 850 pro in it a couple months ago. It's a whole new computer. Although, I completely agree on the screen. I don't mind mine as much as I sprang for the hi-res 15" screen.
Updates to the Macintosh product lines from Apple are a joke.
Do they update graphics chips when new chips come out? Nope
Sure it sounds reasonable to wait for Intel, but apple has been know to sit on models for 1-2 years before a modest refresh or minor update.
I was hoping for a new Apple after the new Mac Pro was released, but that has sit on the shelf since release.
Add to this the anti-consumer practices of not allowing user updated RAM. Glueing computers together and more... It's not hard to see why more and more are getting interested in dual OS hackintoshes. I don't have one, but I'm waiting to see what comes from wwdc.
Do they update graphics chips when new chips come out? Nope
Sure it sounds reasonable to wait for Intel, but apple has been know to sit on models for 1-2 years before a modest refresh or minor update.
I was hoping for a new Apple after the new Mac Pro was released, but that has sit on the shelf since release.
Add to this the anti-consumer practices of not allowing user updated RAM. Glueing computers together and more... It's not hard to see why more and more are getting interested in dual OS hackintoshes. I don't have one, but I'm waiting to see what comes from wwdc.
I'll skip this one too but when Skylake drops (Early 2016 ?) I will upgrade for sure. ForceTouch would be nice also .
Still very happy with my Late 2013 15" Retina MBP.
.Still very happy with my Late 2013 15" Retina MBP.
Disagree on this one. Lots of people would be happy if Apple did a refresh every six months or so to make sure the products were fresh and cutting decor when they are bought.
I've been running my MBP with a 256GB SSD 830 and 16 gig of RAM since day one, and although there are faster SSDs out now, I don't see the point of investing another ~200$ in a soon obsolete machine.
But you're right: Replacing a spinning drive with an SSD really makes any computer feel like it's totally new (compared to before the upgrade).
No, there isn't going to be another update to the non-Retina 27" iMac. A Skylake update and price drop for the Retina iMac in the fall is very likely.
+1. It also seems like Apple Watch shipping times are news now.
Ah, Broadwell smodwell, that 'tic' chip has been delayed so long it's getting to be old news. Why even bother releasing it for a 6 month run. The only buyers to take that bate will be the ones either unaware the next gen chip is around the corner or just plain need a laptop now.
I want the 'real' update, Skylake is the 'Toc' that'll make the next gen rMBP worth investing in.
(God knows my 2008 Unibody finally needs to be mercifully put down)
I want the 'real' update, Skylake is the 'Toc' that'll make the next gen rMBP worth investing in.
(God knows my 2008 Unibody finally needs to be mercifully put down
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They won't do it that way. They'll release EP processors on Broadwell due to long refresh cycles and presumably extensive hardware validations. They'll stagger the rest, so you'll see some things operating on Broadwell while others have switched over. Its impact may be somewhat variable relative to the hardware in question.
