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I think Apple must be focusing to much on getting the Apple watch shipping dates down, which would be understandable why we haven't heard from them on this one ...
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Supplies of 15-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Continue to Tighten Ahead of Broadwell Refresh
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I think Apple must be focusing to much on getting the Apple watch shipping dates down, which would be understandable why we haven't heard from them on this one ...
That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it - "look, an actual article about hardware upgrade rumors - the reason I visit the site!"
The reason Intel had a difficult time with Broadwell well was they were running into challenges with the die shrink. Skylake isn't a die shrink, it's 14 nm like Broadwell. So it's not inconcievable that Intel is being realistic with their schedule.
If new Intel models are far away, Apple has other means of updating the Mac. For example, offering 8GB GPUs, which are becoming popular in the PC market. Or offering 8-core i7s (which I believe do exist).
But of course, this would turn Apple marketing staff very nervous because updating Macs in that way would go against their "product scaling". So it's quite likely we won't see these updates, because product scaling is the #1 priority for them.
But of course, this would turn Apple marketing staff very nervous because updating Macs in that way would go against their "product scaling". So it's quite likely we won't see these updates, because product scaling is the #1 priority for them.
If it comes in space grey or gold, includes the new keyboard and trackpad I'm sold.
The last Apple laptop I bought was the PowerBook G4 back in 2004 lol.
The last Apple laptop I bought was the PowerBook G4 back in 2004 lol.
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Forgive my complete and utter lack of understand when it comes to intel processor naming schemes....but why are they still using the i5 designation?
It seems like it would increase i5-->i6-->i7 etc....like A7-->A8-->A9. I don't entirely understand. Maybe it really isn't important....but I've been wondering.
Think of it more like BMW cars: 7 series is better than 5 series is better than 3 series. Every few years they change the actual vehicle, but the name lives on.
In the core series, Intel has i7 > i5 > i3. I think they thought this would be less confusing than marketing the individual features, but I'm not convinced - it adds another dimension of choice!
Indeed. My 2012 rMBP will have to keep going for another year if there is no Skylake. What's the point of Broadwell quad core mobile CPUs? It seems like even Intel is not interested in making them.
Apple, please skip Broadwell at this point.
If it's truly just six months from Skylake can't we just wait? It's already been almost two years of Haswell.
I fear if Apple refreshes the 15" rMBP with Broadwell now, or as soon as appropriate processors are available, then we won't see a Skylake update for another year after that.
If it's truly just six months from Skylake can't we just wait? It's already been almost two years of Haswell.
I fear if Apple refreshes the 15" rMBP with Broadwell now, or as soon as appropriate processors are available, then we won't see a Skylake update for another year after that.
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Don't you guys feel that at $2500 we should at least get a truly X grade video card? The GTX 860 would be a minimum. I love apple but I can't help being bothered by this apparent greediness.
Don't you guys feel that at $2500 we should at least get a truly X grade video card? The GTX 860 would be a minimum. I love apple but I can't help being bothered by this apparent greediness.
They will come sooner than later. And it will be a glorious day when we get that 24 h true battery life.
This. Although I think Thunderbolt 3 won't feature a different port design.
If a redesign is coming, Apple might announce it at WWDC and ship a few weeks / months later. SKL-H-2 (Skylake H quad-core with GT4e graphics, suitable for the MBP) are announced for Q3/15, which actually starts in July. And Intel has stopped announcing anything about Broadwell-H a few months ago, so I'm in for the guess of that being skipped.
Also, the Iris Pro 7200 (as it should get called, the new GT4e-tier) will have 72 EUs, other than Broadwell's and Haswell's 48. And with a speed increase of ~20% from Haswell to Broadwell, and the announced ~50% speed increase from Broadwell GT3e to Skylake GT4e, the Iris Pro 7200 might be up to 80% faster than the Iris Pro 5200 which would make it certainly faster than the 750M, and probably even the 850M or 950M (which are almost identical). Thus, Apple will either have to upgrade to 960M, or leave the dGPU. In terms of TDP, upgrading to the 960M would most certainly have a huge impact on battery life (75 vs. 50 watts). This is just outrageously high in comparison to Skylake's 47 watts (CPU+iGPU).
I'm currently also in for an upgrade, as I chose upgradability over Retina in 2012 and am still using my MBP13 non-Retina. But it's slow, and small, and I don't like the screen. Intel, hurry up!
indeed, adding a titan black + 64gig of ddr4 ram to the mix really boosted my workstation rig
quite happy with the efficiency of the system!
Man I hope these are announced at WWDC. It's possible they could be the first Broadwell notebooks, isn't it?
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The MacBook Air and Pro were updated at WWDC 2012, which is when the Retina MacBook was debuted. It's harder to find a "usual" time frame for updates, unlike iPad and iPhone.
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The MacBook Air and Pro were updated at WWDC 2012, which is when the Retina MacBook was debuted. It's harder to find a "usual" time frame for updates, unlike iPad and iPhone.
Once the processors are available, bumping the rMBP 15" to Broadwell and force touch to bring it into line with the 13" and Air & keep it ticking over for six months would be no big deal - they've probably already done most of the work on the basis that the chips should have been available last year (hence the 13" bump in March). Some people will need to buy a new computer in the next six months.
Also - if the next update is a bit radical (and, at the very least, its going to have new Thunderbolt ports), the current generation rMBP might hang around for a year or two during the transition, like the old MBPs did.
They will come sooner than later. And it will be a glorious day when we get that 24 h true battery life.
Well, I'll bet you one Internet that there's at least a lash-up ARM system running OS X and Apple's software suite in some back room off Infinite Loop. I'm sure Apple and ARM could collaborate to design a chip with i7-class performance using ARM building blocks. Most recently-written OS X software will probably run on ARM with little more than a re-compile - the problem will be the old, established 3rd party leviathans like Adobe CS and full MS Office (you know, the ones that took forever to appear as true Universal Binaries back at the time of the Intel switch, or that rely on dozens of 3rd-party plugins).
However, If an ARM switch was on the cards for the near future, I think they'd have gone ARM with the retina MacBook to start with. Its not just the CPU power: running Adobe CS etc. or using BootCamp/Parallels is less likely to be a red line for the typical rMB customer, while running iPad apps might be.
All the leaks from last year say it will, although its been very quiet since. If I were Intel, I think I'd be urgently looking at implementing Thunderbolt as an alternate mode on a USB-C connector (which I think is technically possible) rather than another new plug. ISTR the original plan was to use USB-A compatible connectors, but the USB consortium wouldn't play ball - that was before they were pushing USB-C as an all-purpose connector, though.
Weeks, maybe - months is unlikely, because that would completely kill sales of the existing rMBP over the 'back to school' season. Its one thing to do that with a completely new line like the 12" MacBook, the watch and, arguably, the new Mac Pro (which was, effectively, a completely new line, and the credibility of the old MP was already shot), but doing it with a key existing product is called the 'Osbourne Effect' (Remember the Osbourne computer? Exactly). Pre-launching when there's a major risk of further delay totally beyond your control (Intel) would be doubly stupid.
I think the only way we'll see a Skylake MBP refresh at WWDC is if Intel has given Apple an early-access exclusive scoop - which has happened before, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I think we'd have seen leaks by now.
It would be nice to see a new desktop mac with a desktop processor ( unlike the iMac ) use something equivalent to say an i7-5960X with eight cores. Keep the high end Xeon E5/E7s in the Mac Pro and keep the current laptop CPUs in the iMac ( unless engineering redesigns the iMac to handle 140 watts TDP which undoubtedly isn't happening ). Currently the only path to an i7-59xxX class is hackintosh. Such a machine would be screaming fast. This would give customers three tiers: laptop CPUs, Haswell extreme and at the top end the Xeons. This would also provide a high-end machine for those who need power but don't really use multi-processing capabilities of the Xeon.
Apple Mac updates are tied to Intel's ability to produce new CPUs in production quantities in a timely manner. In an ideal world those CPUs would offer substantial performance gains year after year.
Don't like Apple's update progress or the performance improvements offered? Blame Intel.
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Don't like Apple's update progress or the performance improvements offered? Blame Intel.
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This upsets me, I have been waiting for Broadwell for a long time, now I hear it will not give any performance boost. I usually buy high end and stick a long time with it. My current macbook is core2duo from 2008. I really need the biggest hardware upgrade to keep me surviving for the next 5-7 years.
There is hardly any news about skylake and that only means we will probably see it Dec. 2015 at least if not June 2016.
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A few weeks ago there was a similar report about iMac shipments being delayed by a couple of days to weeks, however most of the models are now shipping immediately again.
Still, I do hope that these might be hints for some hardware refreshes soon. The 15" MBP, iMacs and Mac Pro certainly could go for an update.
A few weeks ago there was a similar report about iMac shipments being delayed by a couple of days to weeks, however most of the models are now shipping immediately again.
Still, I do hope that these might be hints for some hardware refreshes soon. The 15" MBP, iMacs and Mac Pro certainly could go for an update.
