Surface Devices

[grmlin]

I would definitely wait and see how the software works and what reviewers have to say about it. It's a first of it's kind and the first Android phone from MS. While I also like the idea of it, I would never spend my money on it out of curiosity

 

[maflynn]

I would definitely wait and see how the software works

I'd like to see how the integration of the hardware and software works. From what little I've seen of this, there's no sealing, so I don't think its water resistant. Plus there seems to be only a single camera?

I thin we're all spoiled with some great innovation in the mobile photography portion of phones, and not to include a great camera (or cameras), its a huge strike for me.

 

[fokmik]

So surface Duo...is a mess...maybe next generation...nobody should buy the current one
i wait for next month to see the new surface line

i wonder if they will abandon the surface pro x..or it will be the next intel based generation

 

[fokmik]

I'd like to see how the integration of the hardware and software works. From what little I've seen of this, there's no sealing, so I don't think its water resistant. Plus there seems to be only a single camera?

I thin we're all spoiled with some great innovation in the mobile photography portion of phones, and not to include a great camera (or cameras), its a huge strike for me.

no water resistant, if you care, maybe it should have at this price and at this time...camera is a joke, no wireless/inducted charging even its glass ...too wide for a phone, to buggy for an heavy user. What apps work, it is great...the build is fantastic and thats all
If the camera is imp for you...clearly not for you
If fluid software is imp for you...clearly not for you
If bezels matters for you....clearly not for you
If you talk often on the phone...clearly not for you
If battery life is imp for you....clearly not for you

 

[The_Interloper]

From all the reviews so far, the Duo seems like a beta product. Hardware quality and innovation being praised but software is riddled with bugs and shortcomings.

 

[maflynn]

The embargo ended and here's some reviews:

Microsoft Surface Duo review: double troubles

The hardware is amazing, except for the camera. The software is amazing, except for the bugs.

www.theverge.com

I'm pretty impressed but as I suspected the camera is not great and that largely is a show stopper for me.

 

[grmlin]

As expected. Let's hope that Microsoft keeps trying and improves the idea

 

[fokmik]

They did not improved windows 10s or the surface pro x
Maybe next month Microsoft will show us that they still want to fix things
Samsung in one year tried and managed to fix a lot in fold 2, hope Microsoft will not let go the duo after 1 year

 

[derekamoss]

So after all the years of laughing at people who spilt something on a laptop and destroyed it... I became that person.... Spilt liquid on the keyboard of my Surface Book and it was just done. Every attempt to revive it failed. And then I kinda kicked myself in the ass... The screen was still working so I was like well ill just plug into that so at least I had a tablet until MS complete goes through..... Until I realized my surface charger didn't work and me being inpatient at the time got a USB c charger from best buy since they were out of stock of the MS Surface charger, so I basically couldn't do anything. Well I suckered up and payed the 89!!!!!!!! Dollars for a charger because once again my impatience kicked in and I could have put the old surface charger no longer working in as well and gotten a replacement for free, still might so I have two! Already feeling the impact of the MS store closures..... But at least I have a tablet to use now since the screen part was undamaged. Thinking about putting it in tablet mode and see if I can stand it for more than an hour. Also thank you mechanical detach, if I wouldn't have learned that trick my tablet would still be connected to the keyboard!

 

[SteveJUAE]

So after all the years of laughing at people who spilt something on a laptop and destroyed it... I became that person.... Spilt liquid on the keyboard of my Surface Book and it was just done. Every attempt to revive it failed. And then I kinda kicked myself in the ass... The screen was still working so I was like well ill just plug into that so at least I had a tablet until MS complete goes through..... Until I realized my surface charger didn't work and me being inpatient at the time got a USB c charger from best buy since they were out of stock of the MS Surface charger, so I basically couldn't do anything. Well I suckered up and payed the 89!!!!!!!! Dollars for a charger because once again my impatience kicked in and I could have put the old surface charger no longer working in as well and gotten a replacement for free, still might so I have two! Already feeling the impact of the MS store closures..... But at least I have a tablet to use now since the screen part was undamaged. Thinking about putting it in tablet mode and see if I can stand it for more than an hour. Also thank you mechanical detach, if I wouldn't have learned that trick my tablet would still be connected to the keyboard!

You may be unlucky as the base unit cannot be replaced separate to the top unit, check first you may have to send both back

Else feel your pain I always tell my wife not to pass my cup of tea over the KB for this exact reason

 

[derekamoss]

You may be unlucky as the base unit cannot be replaced separate to the top unit, check first you may have to send both back

Else feel your pain I always tell my wife not to pass my cup of tea over the KB for this exact reason

Oh I am sure I will have to send both back but at least for now I can use the tablet. Plus my customer service is a little different than most since I skip everything and have a vice president at MS have the escalation team contact me. (One of the benefits of finding an exploit in windows store for them and then three months later announce a find an exploit bounty and we will pay you lol. If I had waited three months I could have walked a way with 30000. But in the end I was able to make some contacts with them. Even got an email straight from Satya for thanks.) Sorry for showboating some times it just makes me feel a little happier!😛

 

[SteveJUAE]

Oh I am sure I will have to send both back but at least for now I can use the tablet. Plus my customer service is a little different than most since I skip everything and have a vice president at MS have the escalation team contact me. (One of the benefits of finding an exploit in windows store for them and then three months later announce a find an exploit bounty and we will pay you lol. If I had waited three months I could have walked a way with 30000. But in the end I was able to make some contacts with them. Even got an email straight from Satya for thanks.) Sorry for showboating some times it just makes me feel a little happier!😛

Show off LOL 🙂

Cool get it sorted soon 🙂

 

[derekamoss]

Show off LOL 🙂

Cool get it sorted soon 🙂

I feel better now!

 

[derekamoss]

So just a quick question. Is it the normal policy that you have to mail in your device first and let them look at it? I really had assumed they send device first and then you send back.

 

[SteveJUAE]

So just a quick question. Is it the normal policy that you have to mail in your device first and let them look at it? I really had assumed they send device first and then you send back.

That's how it worked for us one was a factory recall on the SP4 and the other was a warranty claim on the SB base unit, both times we had to send in 1st

 

[derekamoss]

Haha just found this amusing while reading an article from windowslatest.com

Love how they say this

"Microsoft didn’t say when Windows 10 version 20H2 will be released"

After literally just saying this

"Windows 10’s next feature update will be called the “October 2020 Update”

.......I think it's pretty obvious it is going to be on the 8th Tuesday of November when they release monthly updates😛

 

[Dave245]

Microsoft have just announced new Surface hardware, a new Surface Go Laptop and updates to the Surface Pro X.

I'm guessing there won't be a Surface event this month, even a virtual one. There is also no mention (so far) of the Surface Pro 8. They seem to be pushing the Pro X at the moment.

 

[Rogifan]

Surface Pro
Surface Pro X
Surface Go
Surface Book
Surface Duo
Surface Neo
Surface Laptop
Surface Laptop Go

Man and I thought Apple’s product naming conventions were confusing. What does Go mean? And what’s the difference between Book and Laptop? 😂

 

[Expos of 1969]

Surface Pro
Surface Pro X
Surface Go
Surface Book
Surface Duo
Surface Neo
Surface Laptop
Surface Laptop Go

Man and I thought Apple’s product naming conventions were confusing. What does Go mean? And what’s the difference between Book and Laptop? 😂

Microsoft and Apple, two large and successful companies, yet it seems they both use the same method for choosing names for their products: Having a monkey throw darts at words taped to the wall.

And I mean no disrespect to all the monkeys out there😉

 

[LeeW]

Microsoft does ads better than Apple that is for sure 🙂

I did like "Thinnest Surface Pro Ever". There has only been one! 🙂

The Surface Laptop Go seems right up my street though, small carry around. That said it is still £899 for what I would consider a 'basic' spec at an i5, 8gb Ram and 256GB SSD.

The new Pro X starts at £1,599 for just the device..

Not really impressed to be honest.

 

[canesalato]

The value is just not there. They lost their mind...

 

[Expos of 1969]

The Surface Laptop Go seems right up my street though, small carry around. That said it is still £899 for what I would consider a 'basic' spec at an i5, 8gb Ram and 256GB SSD.
Not really impressed to be honest.

However, it is less expensive and has higher specs (i5 compared to i3) than the latest base Macbook Air. But you may not be able to fry up your Full English breakfast on the case like you can on the Macbook Air 🙁

 

[LeeW]

However, it is less expensive and has higher specs (i5 compared to i3) than the latest base Macbook Air. But you may not be able to fry up your Full English breakfast on the case like you can on the Macbook Air

True, but Mac aside there is a lot on offer for that price point in general Windows Laptops. It's a nice device, definitely but not that attractive when considering all available in the same space.

 

[Dave245]

I wonder if they have replaced the Surface Pro 8 with the Pro X, i don’t see the point of keeping both around.

I do like the advertising tho, I wouldn’t agree that it’s better than Apples. I would say they are on par. Apples Watch 6 advert is pretty funny.

 

[kazmac]

MS were smart to release these given the pandemic (School and work from home). I agree with the too $$$$ for skimpy specs on the Surface Laptop Go, and the Pro X‘s price point. Still, there will be sales soon.