Back in 2016 mind. Rather thought W10 Pro was one of the perks of Surface, guess not...Interesting, Microsofts site claims getting a Surface Book now would come with Home.
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Back in 2016 mind. Rather thought W10 Pro was one of the perks of Surface, guess not...Interesting, Microsofts site claims getting a Surface Book now would come with Home.
When I got my Surface Pro 3 I knew the non Pro's came with Home. Then they added all these additional variants and I didn't really keep track.Back in 2016 mind. Rather thought W10 Pro was one of the perks of Surface, guess not...
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Some have already received theirs today but my BB pre-order hasn't shown any updates. Sounds like Windows 10 is an official option if you prefer that over 11.
TBH I'd far rather Microsoft dropped this nonsense and just had one unified OS same as Apple. If I dropped $2K+ on a new Surface Studio Laptop I'd not be best pleased with being palmed off with W10 Home. Microsoft should include W10 Pro with it's own products given they are selling them as premium.When I got my Surface Pro 3 I knew the non Pro's came with Home. Then they added all these additional variants and I didn't really keep track.
It's not @mi7chy 's own SP8; they are referencing a Reddit post where someone has already received it. The Redditor mentions they went with the SPX Type Cover as it was cheaper (note no pen storage). Also, the new cover has the new 'flat' logo on the Windows key.Looking good mi7chy! What keyboard is that?
It's not @mi7chy 's own SP8; they are referencing a Reddit post where someone has already received it. The Redditor mentions they went with the SPX Type Cover as it was cheaper (note no pen storage). Also, the new cover has the new 'flat' logo on the Windows key.
Yeah, I don't disagree, though I also see from their perspective most users don't need most (all?) of the pro features especially on a laptop so why include them for "free" when they could make more money off them.TBH I'd far rather Microsoft dropped this nonsense and just had one unified OS same as Apple. If I dropped $2K+ on a new Surface Studio Laptop I'd not be best pleased with being palmed off with W10 Home. Microsoft should include W10 Pro with it's own products given they are selling them as premium.
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I'd kind of contest as the likes of BitLocker should be a standard in 2021. Anyway MS & Intel lost my $$$$ on the last cycle as Apple's M1 is in a completely different league...Yeah, I don't disagree, though I also see from their perspective most users don't need most (all?) of the pro features especially on a laptop so why include them for "free" when they could make more money off them.
I'd kind of contest as the likes of BitLocker should be a standard in 2021. Anyway MS & Intel lost my $$$$ on the last cycle as Apple's M1 is in a completely different league...
Bitlocker is enabled on all Surfaces that come with Windows Home. OEMs on the other hand it's not. Other than bitlocker It's really just group policy editor and remote desktop that is taken out of windows home and to be fair, when they started installing Windows 10 home on the Surface devices, they did actually drop the price down $50 which is the upgrade price to pro, so no one was really losing anything.I'd kind of contest as the likes of BitLocker should be a standard in 2021. Anyway MS & Intel lost my $$$$ on the last cycle as Apple's M1 is in a completely different league...
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Agree..TBH I'd far rather Microsoft dropped this nonsense and just had one unified OS same as Apple. If I dropped $2K+ on a new Surface Studio Laptop I'd not be best pleased with being palmed off with W10 Home. Microsoft should include W10 Pro with it's own products given they are selling them as premium.
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I want to skip the 1st Gen of the upcoming MBP as Apple can get it right and also get it wrong. M1 MBP seems a safe bet as the chassis is tried and proven. Monterey I'll avoid until I think it's a worthily update for my needs.For me it's not entirely a decision about hardware - before I pull the trigger on anything I want to see what Apple does during the October/November events. Specifically the release of Monterey. I haven't been happy with the direction MacOS has gone over the last few releases, but I'll install Monterey on my existing MBP and give it an honest shot. If it doesn't piss me off, I'll take a good look at the 14" MBP.
But based on the trajectory Apple has been on, I'm not optimistic about Monterey. The hardware doesn't matter if I'm not happy with the software. So the other options are a Surface Pro 8 or a Razer 14". We'll see what happens!
Just comes across as a cheap move and if you need the additional features another cost.Agree..
The machine I am getting today was $2100 and it ships with Win 11 Home.. I admit I was a little disappointed it did not come with Win 11 Pro..
Well unless you need the additional features. Personally I'd try to work the Pro version of Windows into the deal, being fairly confident that on a $2K+ notebook someone would happily throw in W11 Pro, that's what I did with this ASUS.Bitlocker is enabled on all Surfaces that come with Windows Home. OEMs on the other hand it's not. Other than bitlocker It's really just group policy editor and remote desktop that is taken out of windows home and to be fair, when they started installing Windows 10 home on the Surface devices, they did actually drop the price down $50 which is the upgrade price to pro, so no one was really losing anything.
Oh I agree but i'm sure they have usage data that probably said most people buying Surfaces werent using those things anyways. and it's as simple as going to the MS store and clicking upgrade to pro for $50 dollars and takes about 2 mins and a restart.Well unless you need the additional features. Personally I'd try to work the Pro version of Windows into the deal, being fairly confident that on a $2K+ notebook someone would happily throw in W11 Pro, that's what I did with this ASUS.
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I made the conscious decision not to be locked into one platform which has worked out well as I don't now need to consider overly just get the best HW for the job at hand.
Looking good mi7chy! What keyboard is that?
So pretty.................The quality and finish of the materials, and the overall feel is just PREMIUM. The keyboard is a delight.