If you have a modern TV then yes, been there for years in windows
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Yes, via Miracast receiver connected to TV but experience varies. Using Surface Pro X SQ2 to cast to LG C1 TV built in Miracast looks the best and it supports 2880x1920 60Hz. I don't own this but Microsoft 4K Wireless Display Adapter is well regarded but is supposedly limited to 30Hz at 4K and even at lower resolutions. Fire TV Stick 4K Max looks like poop.
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Yes i have A Samsung QLED TV, I’ve been thinking about getting The Pro 9 and hooking it up to an external monitor, but if i can cast to my 50” TV it will be even better (well bigger).
I should have a 85" Samsung Neo Qled being delivered on Tuesday PM and it comes with a free $900 freestyle
projector, ridiculous
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, I’ve just pre-ordered the Surface Pro 9, Core i7 with 16GB Ram and 512GB SSD. I opted for the Sapphire blue colour. Oh and Microsoft 365 with 15 months offer for £59.99 and the Surface Slim Pen 2 thrown in for free as a pre-order gift.Surface 10 year anniversary and all we got was some spec bumps and a some colors - very disappointing in that regard.
Surface Studio 2+
rather a 2-...
outdated middle class hardware for a moon price.
Microsoft can do so however, just because there are (no known to me) similiar altenatives for the creative people.
It's also a pity that the Studio monitor with zero gravity hinge/stand is not available "without PC".
Surface Laptop
What's the justification for it's existence compared to other Windows laptops?
the Surface line was intended to show the OEMs (Lenovo, Asus, Dell, etc.) what is technically possible, a reference product and/or a new device class(es).
Surface Pro 9
Overall still an awesome device IMO, as long you have some kind of keyboard/mouse/pen to use it with.
Does Intel pay to be the exclusive x86 partner... or can AMD not deliver their 6000 series?
AMD 6000 CPU (with RDNA2 iGPU) would be much better suited IMO (similiar performance, better iGPU, less heath, longer battery life)
As for the ARM/5G version.
SQ3 is a slighty modified Qualcom Gen 3 CPU and bechmarks with the Gen 3 CPU have already shown a good improvement in a Samsung? laptop, but it's still behind the Apple's M-Series.
Project Volterra / Windows on ARM
Where is the ARM developer box which was already announced in spring/summer?
Apparently ARM is still not a priority at Microsoft... (and this is their 4th attempt or so - Windows RT from the 2010s sends its regards).
Qaulcom's ARM "Nuvia IP" CPU's could be the make or brake moment for the "Windows on ARM" platform, at least in the near term, depending on if they can achieve similar performance and battery life to the Apple M-Series.
Surface Studio 2+
rather a 2-...
outdated middle class hardware for a moon price.
Microsoft can do so however, just because there are (no known to me) similiar altenatives for the creative people.
It's also a pity that the Studio monitor with zero gravity hinge/stand is not available "without PC".
Surface Laptop
What's the justification for it's existence compared to other Windows laptops?
the Surface line was intended to show the OEMs (Lenovo, Asus, Dell, etc.) what is technically possible, a reference product and/or a new device class(es).
Surface Pro 9
Overall still an awesome device IMO, as long you have some kind of keyboard/mouse/pen to use it with.
Does Intel pay to be the exclusive x86 partner... or can AMD not deliver their 6000 series?
AMD 6000 CPU (with RDNA2 iGPU) would be much better suited IMO (similiar performance, better iGPU, less heath, longer battery life)
As for the ARM/5G version.
SQ3 is a slighty modified Qualcom Gen 3 CPU and bechmarks with the Gen 3 CPU have already shown a good improvement in a Samsung? laptop, but it's still behind the Apple's M-Series.
Project Volterra / Windows on ARM
Where is the ARM developer box which was already announced in spring/summer?
Apparently ARM is still not a priority at Microsoft... (and this is their 4th attempt or so - Windows RT from the 2010s sends its regards).
Qaulcom's ARM "Nuvia IP" CPU's could be the make or brake moment for the "Windows on ARM" platform, at least in the near term, depending on if they can achieve similar performance and battery life to the Apple M-Series.
I have to agree, i‘m a little disappointed at the event. 10 Years of Surface and all we got were spec bumps. That being said i have pre-ordered the Surface Pro 9, i7, 16GB, 512SSD. I’m hoping for a decent spec bump over the Pro 8.
My overall aim is to replace my iPad Pro and also have a PC that i can travel with and dock at my desk with a monitor. Some light gaming (Game pass level PC games, along with some from Steam, Two Point Campus and such games). I’m also hoping Windows 11 has improved from when i tried it last year on the Pro 8.
My pre-order bundle included Microsoft 365, I thought they would send it at the same time as the Surface Pro 9 device and the free Slim Pen 2 they are giving away. Apparently the Microsoft 365 subscription (15 months for the price of 12) is arriving today via DPD. I'm confused because I thought it was a code sent via email and not a physical item.
Update: I returned the Pro 9, whilst i loved the blue colour and the fact that they have moved the buttons too a much better place, I still find Windows to be buggy and there really wasn't much difference from the Pro 8. I really should learn my lesson when it comes to Surface devices, everyone i've had i ended up returning and sticking with my Mac
I still live in both worlds; more if including Linux. Yet to dig into W11 as prefer to be conservative, same applies to macOS as done my time as a beta tester 😂Update: I returned the Pro 9, whilst i loved the blue colour and the fact that they have moved the buttons too a much better place, I still find Windows to be buggy and there really wasn't much difference from the Pro 8. I really should learn my lesson when it comes to Surface devices, everyone i've had i ended up returning and sticking with my Mac
As of now have zero complaint with my M1 MBP on last point release of Monterey macOS 12. TBH same applied to W10, just takes more time to set up versus macOS.
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Might be telling you something...everyone i've had i ended up returning and sticking with my Mac
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I like the idea of Windows 11, it looks great in videos and online. When it comes to using it, I find it doesn't seem as polished and as bug free as MacOS (at least not in my experience).
Do you have a Pro 8? Or did you just like the Pro 8 and expect a big difference?Update: I returned the Pro 9, whilst i loved the blue colour and the fact that they have moved the buttons too a much better place, I still find Windows to be buggy and there really wasn't much difference from the Pro 8. I really should learn my lesson when it comes to Surface devices, everyone i've had i ended up returning and sticking with my Mac
I think the Pro 9 is the best device in the line right now with the 120hz display, slightly smaller bezels and 12 gen chips.
Microsoft is advancing their line at a snail’s pace really and are getting left behind the competition in most ways now.
I use Windows on an inexpensive laptop 2 in one. It has 12th gen chip, decent specs and didn’t cost half what my Mac cost. It has Windows 11.
While I need Windows for certain things I like using my Mac as my main computer and if I had unlimited funds I would like to have a Surface laptop 5 but even then Microsoft has been so slow to add new features I am not sure. It is almost as if they don’t really care about creating a model of what a windows laptop/ tablet should be like they did a while back.
I don’t know if I could only live with a Mac though.
I find Windows 11 to be very stable and big free. It may be less intuitive to use than Windows 10. No version of Windows ever seems to be polished, more like a new skin on an old dinosaur that still mashes up UI elements. Lol
I had the Surface Pro 8 and returned it within the 90 days return window. I guess I'm use to MacOS and how everything works without hassle. 120HZ screen on the Pro 9 is good, but it's not butter smooth if I was too nit pick. Windows 11 looks good as I've said in my previous post, however it just doesn't feel as good or as smooth as MacOS. Battery life also isn't as good on the Pro 9, it's a little less than it is on the Pro 8 and the battery life on that device wasn't the best.
I don't know as have avoided it, need my systems to work not to be in flux. I learnt from a wiser man that staying being the curve with the OS can pay dividends.
This PC is on the latest W10 point release, the Mac in the middle is on latest Monterey release, Mac to the right is on High Sierra and it's passing 11 years old...
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My iMac is getting very old now, it's the one from 2012 with the thin design. I'm holding off until next year when they are due an update. My MacBook Pro (which I'm typing on now) is from 2019 and it's the 13" one, I'm running Ventura and it's really good especially using Stage Manager.
I'll keep using the 2011 15" until it dies, as it delivers, and I have an M1 MBP for the heavy lifting. Ironically, I held onto the 2011 as didn't want to pass it on due to the inherent design flaw (dGPU) yet 4,091 days on its seen off many other Mac's & PC's and can easily push past 3Ghz with no throttle...
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I do find that Macs last, they can be like Duracell batteries, they go on and on, 😂 my 2011 MacBook Pro gave up after 10 years of heavy work, I brought the 13" 2019 MacBook Pro and it still works great (apart from some beach balling but I think that's because I throw a lot at it now) I'm considering the 16" M2 MacBook Pro when Apple actually announce it. My iMac has lasted just over 10 years, every Mac I've had so far as lasted and i'ver gotten the value out of 10 fold.
Lack of polish, completely agree. MSFT seems to move from one UI style to another, but when they do so much of windows remains of the prior style.
There are still Windows 3.1 era in windows 10 (and presumably windows 11) This is an actual screen print from my work computer running windows 10
Every version of Windows, one thinks that this time, they'll replace the old visual style remnants with newer variants, and every year, one is disappointed again. I think it's enterprises' legacy software that are the real holdback on this.
Well, I have to admit... ODBC is an ancient program. That explains the dinosaur look. Surprised it still works
I still use it, both on workstations and servers. You'd be surprised at how many applications require it.Well, I have to admit... ODBC is an ancient program. That explains the dinosaur look. Surprised it still works
Ancient or not, its still an integral part of the system used for database connectivty.
I always feel conflicted when it comes to Windows and surface. I really like the idea of a touchscreen laptop and 2in1s, the Surface Laptop Studio, laptop 5 and Surface Pro, all appeal to me in areas the Mac just can't. If Apple made a touch screen Mac or a 2 in 1 like the Pro 9, I would be all over it simply because they do polish software much better than Microsoft.
That's not to say that Microsoft don't have features or aspects of Windows that I don't appreciate, because I do. Being able to multitask and snap windows just by touching the screen, hell even the look of Windows 11 in the adverts is appealing.
The fact that Windows gets regular updates under Panos Panay, new features and so on, really is a great thing and I do think that Windows has come a long way. I've even thought about getting a low cost Surface Go or a Surface Laptop 3 or 4 just to tinker about with.
When there is no real competition, what is the motivation to improve? Microsoft, just like Apple, has mastered the art of doing nothing other than marketing for segments that they know they have a tight grip on. Realistically, there are only 2 consumer OSs in the world--if you're in the US and want to do your taxes offline, then you need one of them.