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SurfaceBook 2x Faster than MBP False Advertising..
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An iPad pro doesn't run photoshop or Lightroom, so it isn't a real option for me. I already have a Samsung Note with a Wacom based s-pen and once Adobe releases their Android apps, it will be equivalent to an iPad pro in that regard for me.
Also, the 13" MBP Microsoft is comparing the surface book to is a $2200 configuration. The surface book is still more expensive at $2700, however it isn't twice the price, and you arguably get more features for that extra $$. Which is why some of us have it on our short list.
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Looks like some 13" MBP vs Surface Book benchmarks are coming in. The Surface book fares much better here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2995...nt-twice-as-fast-its-three-times-as-fast.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2995...nt-twice-as-fast-its-three-times-as-fast.html
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Well sure, but an iMac doesn't really travel well and an iPad Pro doesn't have a full OS. And pound for pound, desktops are always cheaper than their equivalent notebooks. Otherwise, why would anyone in their right mind ever buy a fully spec'd out 15" MBP for $3200? Because they need performance AND portability.
I don't understand why everyone is so upset that the Surface book is so expensive? I would think you would be glad that Apple no longer holds that title.
And I trust benchmarks about as far as I can throw them, they can be made to say just about anything and are cherry picked by all the manufacturers to show off what they want.
However the main take away is that microsoft got in there first with skylake and managed to put a fairly vanilla dGPU in a 13 inch laptop, great if you game it's probably the laptop for you, if you don't it probably won't make one whit of difference overall.
If you came you're not buying a thin convertible whatever. The cuda cores will help in pro apps if its attached to the keyboard. Like I said yesterday I'm not defending or advocating I'm pointing out that they didn't say it 2x faster they said more powerful and the graphics card is likely where they go the number.
I like this and it helps ease my issues with the GPU.
There was talk that the GPU being used was a gamers GPU and real world usage wouldn't benefit.
You're exaggerating. When looking at what will probably be the most popular configuration:
MBP 13" i5/8GB/256GB: $1499
Surface Book i5/8GB/256GB/dGPU: $1899
A far cry from "half the price". And for the $400 you get a discrete GPU, detachable touch screen with pen digitizer, and likely better battery life (simply because there is more room for battery cells in the Surface Book).
The comparison with the 15" MBP is just silly, as it is a far less portable device with a quad-core CPU.
Its silly also because its an apples and oranges thing. Clearly the SurfaceBook is not intended to go head to head with a 15" MBP
Far less portable?
The MacBook Pro 15" is actually more portable. It may have a little bigger footprint, but it's thinner when closed.
Consensus on this board is the 13" MBP is a more portable product as it occupies less space in your backpack and on the desk. I'm not looking to split hairs but I tend to agree with that sentiment.
guys microsoft didnt say it is the best bang for the buck hence
for people looking at 13 inch laptops comparing surfacebook to 15" rmbp is completely ridiculous. also just because it is thinner it doest make a 15" laptop more portable.
if you are comparing it for the best performance you get for the money go ahead and buy the best bang for the buck product (in high performance class) ... i personally dont care too much if it is few hundred $ more.
for me i was considering getting a rmbp 13" with skylake but now very tempted to get the surfacebook.
of course also comparing a 2016 product (surfacebook) to a 2015 product (2015 rmbp 13") is also comparing apples to oranges and we havent yet seen apples 2016 product. however for me my laptop is starting to drive me nuts and dont think can wait until Q1 2016 so guess will go with the surfacebook when it arrives here ...
for people looking at 13 inch laptops comparing surfacebook to 15" rmbp is completely ridiculous. also just because it is thinner it doest make a 15" laptop more portable.
if you are comparing it for the best performance you get for the money go ahead and buy the best bang for the buck product (in high performance class) ... i personally dont care too much if it is few hundred $ more.
for me i was considering getting a rmbp 13" with skylake but now very tempted to get the surfacebook.
of course also comparing a 2016 product (surfacebook) to a 2015 product (2015 rmbp 13") is also comparing apples to oranges and we havent yet seen apples 2016 product. however for me my laptop is starting to drive me nuts and dont think can wait until Q1 2016 so guess will go with the surfacebook when it arrives here ...
Try using a 15" laptop on an airplane. There is a reason why many people prefer smaller and lighter computers. Even the 13" MBP is relatively big and heavy for traveling (which is why Apple came up with the Air and more recently the new Macbook).
Agreed there are definite situations where a smaller laptop works better.
I use my SP3 when traveling because it's much easier to deal with in airports and airplanes.
No it isn't.
SurfaceBook - 256GB Core i5 8GB is $1,700
13" MBP - 256GB Core i5 8GB is $1,500.
Basically 200 dollars get you get a better battery, better display, tablet like functionality (though it is heavy), and a dGPU. Conversely you need to spend 500 dollars more on the between the base 15" MBP and the high end MBP to get a dGPU (it does include a large SSD however).
That $1699 model does not come with the nVidia GPU.
Therefore, that model isn't 2x faster or 2x more powerful.
The model with i5/256GB/8GB and nVidia GPU costs $1899, $400 more than the MBPr.
You obviously haven't used a Surface Pro on a plane. Because of the backs stand, it's actually very difficult to fit it on the meal tray because the back stand slips over the edge when you try to fit the keyboard on. I'm not knocking the design, it's the best kickstand keyboard design, it's just not one that works well on a plane.
No, however I can see one replacing both my 13" & 15" rMBP`s SurfaceBook is far from prefect, equally Microsoft is certainly showing distinct innovation, while we can be fairly sure that Apple will just churn out more "thin & light" and tell us how awesome it is, expecting us to follow blindly...
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because its hybrid. it detaches all-in-one, unlike the MBA..
This is more in comparison to an iPad Pro. However, if u like to believe a lower spec graphic's chip of the Surface Book can archive a better resolution, than the Iris 6100 in the Retina, then good luck.
Interesting how companies can mention they are faster just by running an outdated OS on purpose to try and give them the advantage.
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