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Do you even know what you are asking?

Well I could waste time in a silly conversation with someone who thinks "fanboy" is some original creative statement. On the other hand it seems like a terrible waste of time.

Moving on...

Here comes the lame challenge in an attempt to string this out. Watch for it.
 
Well I could waste time in a silly conversation with someone who thinks "fanboy" is some original creative statement. On the other hand it seems like a terrible waste of time.

Moving on...

Here comes the lame challenge in an attempt to string this out. Watch for it.

I made a point about Apple resting on their laurels with regards to the development of the OSX platform. You obviously did not comprehend what I wrote, but went straight to the irrelevant word of 'fanboy' for some reason? I can remove the word 'fanboy' if it offends you, but it wont change my point.

You do understand that the point of a web forum is to state your opinion and discuss and debate issues, right?
 
October 6, 1997
ORLANDO, Florida--When it comes to the state of Apple Computer, everyone has an opinion. And at the Gartner Symposium and ITxpo97 here today, the CEO of competitor Dell Computer added his voice to the chorus when asked what could be done to fix the Mac maker. His solution was a drastic one.

"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders," Michael Dell said before a crowd of several thousand IT executives.

Eat your words, Mr. Dell.
 
Is this another D'oh! story?

An equivalent headline would be "Nearly 3/4 of college students choose Windows laptops".

It is significant that the college student market share is so much higher than Apple's real marketshare - but I would bet that if you'd adjust for family income, Apple's college market share would be closer to their upper income bracket market share.

In other words - "Apples are expensive, college is expensive - and people who can afford college are more likely to be able to afford Apples".

13" MacBook Pro is within 5% of the Thinkpad T410's we're ordering. In other words, Macs are about the same price as a Windows PC that ISN'T a POS. Anecdotal? Sure, but it's also the case with the workstations and servers too. Too bad they don't make a desktop.............:D

No ****, Sherlock. Has anyone been to a college campus lately? They're covered in Macs. The only time I see more PCs than Macs is when I'm in a lecture full of computer science majors. I still don't get why anyone would take a computer to a lecture without tutorials, it's much better to take notes on paper...

That's pretty subjective, since I prefer taking notes on a computer that can then be easily indexed and searchable.
 
Mac OS X is just grey and boring to look at.

Well, this is where you're wrong. Apple designs OS X with the right amount of "pretty" in order to not cloud up the UI with unnecessary crap like Windows 7's over-use of transparency and animated fade-in/fade-out of window and apps. Not to say that I wouldn't mind if Apple allowed more customizable options in terms of color such as the scroll bars but other than that, it's always been Windows that I've had the desire to change because the default UI sorta sucks and many people feel the same way which is why they end up installing Rocket Dock/Stacks Docklet or any other fake docks to make their Windows machine more "Mac like". I guess the Mac OS isn't as boring as you stated. :p
 
The thing is that you have to look at this as an investor. It's easy to say "roughly 70% don't use Apple" to compare Windows to Mac OS.

But as an investor, you want a company with a big piece of the pie. In these freshman numbers and in overall numbers, you find Apple with a decent percentage compared to others. But not one company with any thing close to a majority.

Now in any particular comparison, how can Apple gain? Mostly from Windows users switching to Mac OS.

How would HP or Dell ever grow and possibly get over 50% eventually? Most likely by buying out other companies. What significant difference does Dell offer compared to HP to win over many of their customers? (Just to give an example).

Buying out another company to gain in these rankings is not a profitable venture. It's just the opposite.

Apple really needs to compete with itself. It needs to be innovative and offer new software and products to tempt people over to a different OS. And it needs to keep the customers it has happy.
 
If something doesn't tip the S-house back over, aapl will reap the rewards of this market share growth. :)

ciao baby
JohnG
 
College student here as well with a 13" and 15" MBP. The big reason why my Windows using pals do not carry their computers to class is weight and lack of battery life. With my 13" I always take to my classes, the battery last through the day perfectly fine. I believe that is one of the biggest pros of the MB and MBP.
 
Student on his brand new MacBook Pro right here :)

Yup, Steve's dream of hitting parity with Microsoft / IBM / Wintel machines on campuses going back twenty five years may actually hit next year.

Apple has done an excellent job and the hardware is finally approaching the type of UI he wanted to have on the original Macs.
 
This seems to fit the general view of Windows 7 from all but the most dedicated Microsoft loyalists. MS should use it in their marketing materials:

Microsoft Windows 7: It's Not That Bad (TM)

Absolutely brilliant!!:D
 
This is why apple keeps expanding. They understand brand image and loyalty, and by capturing kids young enough, it will pay off down the road.
 
Windows Seven is not bad at all. Has some features I hope Apple adopts in its next OS. I run a Windows Seven machine right next to my Mac and its pretty solid.

Same here. I have a Mac and a Win7 machine on the same KVM switch. About the only thing keeping the Windows machine here are a handful of apps that has no counterpart on the Mac for various reasons.

Windows 7 was the first OS that Microsoft was forced to look at stability and performance other over adding features. Both Window Mobile and Vista tanking was a very humbling experience for those in Redmond.

Was told that a lot of old MS types that worked on the Win32 kernel going back over fifteen years came back to "save their baby" cause not many knew exactly what to do to speed it up. Rumor has it a lot of things at the low thread level were taken out that was originally there cause of CPU speed and memory restrictions.

The best quote I heard around Burgermaster was "For a change, Microsoft has real engineering and not just these new hires trying new memory hog tricks."
 
This is why apple keeps expanding. They understand brand image and loyalty, and by capturing kids young enough, it will pay off down the road.

Yup, that is why the entire HP Calculator division was mostly set up. Gave all those engineering students brand loyalty to buy the high dollar HP lab equipment back in the day. Steve learned from that.
 
I still don't get why anyone would take a computer to a lecture without tutorials, it's much better to take notes on paper...

Why would it be better to take notes on paper? You would either have to keep track of all papers during a course, which can become very hard if you write a lot, or rewrite everything on your computer afterwards, wasting time and paper.

After two years of law school I almost don't know where to put my steadily growing collection of papers. Keeping everything organised becomes increasingly difficult. In the end, I'd just wish to throw most of it away, since I wouldn't be sure to find it anyway. I used to write most of my notes on paper and rewrite them in Pages for consolidation and easy access. Currently, I just take my MacBook to lectures and write my notes in Pages right away. It saves me time writing and organising, and a lot of paper and money.

Mac OS X was my reason for choosing a Mac. The most annoying problems I had were the taskbar that became very bloated with all the windows, the quick launch bar and the notification bar; the start menu that wasn't actually customisable and offered no reliable quick search; the Windows Explorer that was too clunky to use; the system preferences panel that changed with every major release and was still too complex and too filled with 'hidden' settings; the installation procedure of applications that created folders and shortcuts on many places on my system I wouldn't ever find anymore (and thus left a lot of junk). Mac OS X solved all those problems: the Dock, the Finder, Spotlight, simple system preferences, one folder for all applications and an easy way to remove them, and of course the general subtle, unified Aqua interface.

Mac OS X is so simple in nature that I always ask myself what Microsoft was doing all the time, considering that Mac OS X offers those features for years.
 
Yup, that is why the entire HP Calculator division was mostly set up. Gave all those engineering students brand loyalty to buy the high dollar HP lab equipment back in the day. Steve learned from that.

Was that back in the days when Wozniak was working at HP?
 
THESE are the polls that keep the M$ team up at night. The brand-loyalty choices are made permanent in college. These kids are going to grow up and run companies and staff IT departments. Ballmer should be worried. This is a snapshot of what you'll see nationwide in 20 years.

For sure, as they get older, get jobs they'll buy more and more Mac's.
 
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