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Forget Siri, just update the damn Spotlight which makes iOS pain in the a$$ to use. What can be done with 1 tap (or even just by typing) needs multiple actions in iOS. Example directions:

iOS:
1) pull down to open spotlight
2) type address
3) realized you can't open it in Google Maps
4) close spotlight
5) swipe left and right to find Google Maps app
6) give up, open spotlight again
7) search for google maps app
8) open the app and type the address again
9) tap navigate

Android:
1) open Google search
2) type address
3) tap on first result
4) tap navigate

Sometimes I try to search web and then open Google Maps from Siri, but half of the time it is unable to pass the address to the app so I need to type it again.

Or you could just open the app, type the address, and tap navigate. Probably easier than the 9 steps you describe.
 
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my experience worse with last two IOS updates—using on Apple Watch S3 LTE.

Prior: took dictated text flawlessly and auto sent. so smooth.

Now: requires I read/confirm msg on tiny screen outdoors while walking, etc. b4 sending and then say “send”.

so annoying, I guess because it worked so well b4.

When I'm using Siri for dictation, I'm not usually in a position to watch the screen or proofread the message so I always asked Siri to read back my message before sending it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I appreciated the change to automatically read a message back before sending. Not sure why you have to look at the screen to do this. Siri on my phone reads the message and asks me to confirm sending it. I can do it all by voice command.
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This is how bad Siri is 'hey Siri, set alarm for 0600 tomorrow'

'You don't have an alarm for 0600'

Idiotic AI

Huh, works perfectly for me.
 
When I'm using Siri for dictation, I'm not usually in a position to watch the screen or proofread the message so I always asked Siri to read back my message before sending it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I appreciated the change to automatically read a message back before sending. Not sure why you have to look at the screen to do this. Siri on my phone reads the message and asks me to confirm sending it. I can do it all by voice command.
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Huh, works perfectly for me.

Ok so I will give that read-back thing a try. ;)
 
You get 3 words to describe Siri to users, and you choose "scalability" as one of them?

Noone cares about scalability except back-end engineers. You already had "performance," which covers the end-user's experience.

It's just a sign of how much someone doesn't understand how people interact with their phones.

When Siri came out I was in awe. The future had arrived! Unfortunately, the future seems to be as dumb as the present.

And yes, Siri is way behind, but it's not the only case where this is true. I can't remember (on a scale of like 5 years or so) a single time when the badge for unread emails was correct on the Mail app. There's always a number on it, and it is *always* wrong. How is this acceptable? Applications had this right 20 years ago, now it's 2018 and Apple has a device in everyone's pocket that can't correctly tell them how many unread emails they have. It's disgraceful. Which, yes, seems like an overly dramatic word in this context, but it fits.
 
What's asinine about it is how completely hypocritical Apple's "stance" is. If Apple truly cared about user privacy, Google wouldn't be the default search on Safari - Duck Duck Go would. If Apple truly cared about its users privacy like Timmy likes to call attention to he'd remove Facebook integration immediately. And the list goes ever on but so long as Apple's getting paid billions to have them on iOS money talks and bull**** walks.

The two examples you give there are actually very good.

At least iOS gives you the option to do something about it, though.

Like you say, I have selected Duck Duck Go as my default search and I have never enabled Facebook integration on any of the iPhones I have owned.

In fact I rarely use Facebook only posting maybe 20 times a year (deliberately for privacy reasons) and primarily use it to keep up with friends who have moved all across the globe by reading their much greater number of posts.
 
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Why can't Apple get Siri right?

It boggles my mind.

Two nights ago "Hey Siri.... Turn off the guest room lamp." Siri shuts off the Guest bathroom lamp (with someone in the guest bathroom). Awesome. Should I have to name the rooms different? I shouldn't, but I will to accommodate Siri.
 
high customer satisfaction? it will be discounted soon.. the ipad mini 2 had a 100% satisfaction rate.. and where is it now?? ... well well .. apple and numbers..
 
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. . . Siri, Alexa,... they are no AI. Yet. They are simply analyzing phrases. Alexa can't even recognize "joined" commands like "Alexa, set a time for x minutes and turn on lights". . .

The funny thing is when Siri was still standalone app in the App Store, it was way ahead of its time and capable of doing exactly that - albeit probably limited to certain scenarios.

I remember seeing a marketing video of Siri in action (which of course Apple removed from YouTube after their takeover) where the user relayed an instruction something like this;

Siri book 2 tickets for the 10PM showing of District Nine at my local cinema and reserve a table for 7:30PM at the highest rated nearby Romantic Italian restaurant.

Siri being location aware booked the movie tickets and then searched reviews for the word Romantic within the nearest high rated Italian restaurants. It selected the one that best met the criteria and reserved the table.

It then vocally summarised its actions back to the user. Impressive stuff.

It’s certainly not that clever these days, much work to be done.

If I were leading the department responsible for Siri, I would have the graph from the survey printed and posted everywhere as I’d be embarrassed that my product was the one glaringly obvious failure according to the iPhone X customers.
 
Apple needs to dump Siri and not necessarily start from scratch, but acquire other companies that do it better and replace the Siri team with them -- Siri sucks, and the Siri team has proven they don't have what it takes to make Siri into something great. This is truly a serious detriment to the Apple ecosystem if they want to continue to be on top. Dump Siri now. Re-brand with a much better assistant from a totally different team. Siri is a failure, and Apple needs to acknowledge this.
 
I don't see what's so great about Alexa. My FireTV has it and it can't answer even the most BASIC questions that you could find yourself on the web in a few seconds. It's annoying as hell. It's only good to play a song or something. Worthless is the word I would use. How Siri could POSSIBLY any worse than THAT I just don't know. People must use it for things I'd never imagine using it for or something.
 
Why can't Apple get Siri right?

It boggles my mind.

Two nights ago "Hey Siri.... Turn off the guest room lamp." Siri shuts off the Guest bathroom lamp (with someone in the guest bathroom). Awesome. Should I have to name the rooms different? I shouldn't, but I will to accommodate Siri.

That's actually pretty funny......:0)). But to answer your question, "Yes", you do have to name each room differently. I have a separate name for every single room in the house and groupings within rooms, e.g., Master bedroom, Master bathroom; Kitchen table, kitchen ceiling, kitchen island, kitchen desk; Outside patio, outside garage. The simpler the better in order to facilitate memory for verbal requests.
 
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Siri is so bad that it makes the horrible notch acceptable. It's like tolerating consumption of broccoli to cure a bad case of diarrhea from food poisoning.
 
I want two things:

1) For Siri to be marginally useful at finding the phone number for a restaurant or directions somewhere
2) For Apple's search function to be similarly useful. In other words, swipe down and type in whatever I want, and get legitimate results.

These are things that Google does with absolute ease and accuracy, and Apple is quite seriously years behind in these very simple, practical areas.
 
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I just hope when they said "we are focusing on fixing things and will not have a bunch of new features" in the next update that was code speak for "we are going to address all the things that are wrong with Siri."
 
Iris, lol. They’ve to kill it first. Knowing Apple, they won’t admit it’s bad or they were wrong. It really annoys me that when I ask Siri to set the timer it repeats with some kind of joke. It’s not even funny nor professional.

Instead Apple should put more energy in useful things like let me set more then one timer so I can boil eggs and potato’s.

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So true. The jokes make me want to strangle a virtual assistant.

"You already have a timer set, would you like to keep or replace it?"

WHY CAN'T I HAVE TWO OR MORE?!?!?!?!?!
 
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I use Siri with Apple Car Play quite a bit. I didn't have many problems with the old voice, but the new voice does not annunciate very well. It is especially noticeable when dictating a message to be sent.
 
Actually, it largely has been a failure. The iPhone 7 outsold the X in the first quarter of 2018. Suppliers have had to cut production unexpectedly. Anyone who isn't seeing this with Apple blinders, realizes it wasn't the super cycle it was supposed to be.


Agree with everything you’ve said except the last sentence. It was close to a super cycle it’s just that a significant number of those that previously would’ve purchased the flagship iPhone (X in this case) decided it didn’t represent value and bought a different model from the range instead.


That’s when Apple and their Market observers decided they’d better switch the conversation from unit sales to profitability.
 
I just can't believe so many people prefer FaceID over TouchID! Wearing glasses? Enter your code; Lying in bed? Enter your code; Eating with your mouth full? Enter your code; In a hurry and don't aim the screen perfectly at your face? Enter your code! Sure, FaceID does work most of the time, but TouchID was orders of magnitude more reliable, and difference becomes very noticeable when you consider how many times you unlock your phone each day.

Is picking up your phone, positioning it in front your face, taking a selfie and swiping up really more convenient than just pressing the home button?

I can't help feeling that if it was TouchID that had just been released to replace FaceID, everyone would be screaming about an update actually worth having!

Totally agree.

You missed - using your iPhone in landscape mode... thats a passcode!

I get asked a lot by work colleagues if they should get the 8 or the X and I point them to the 8 every time.
 
The only thing I use Siri for is to ask about the weather in the morning before I leave for work. She has yet to fail me in that regard. But I know in most areas, she definitely needs improvements.
 
Face ID is really bad. I believe there are people out there that really are satisfied with it. BUT, I believe that there are many, many people out there that are really not satisfied with it and are saying that they are.
And what would be their motivation for saying they are satisfied when they are not? I would really like to know why you think this.
 
But... but.... MacRumors members insisted it'd be a failure at such a price and no one would buy it.

But... but... they only sold 60% of sales targets & as a result had to wind down production after only being on the market 4 months. Plus they had to reduce further orders for OLED screens from Samsung. By the time 2018 models arrive the iPhone X will have sold less units that the iPhone 6, 6s & 7 of both varieties. And the hot rumor is Apple is bringing out a literal cheaper LCD knockoff of the X to try to boost sales. BTW barely 15% brought the X outright, 85% of X's sold have been contract or credit, that's a lot of desperate Fomo's.
 
Occasionally pop into SiriFail to see if Siri has made any progress.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SiriFail/

Nope... First thing I see.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SiriFail/comments/8ef2m9/siri_vs_google_assistant_app_both_running_on/
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