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Swiss Federal Railways Says Apple Copied Its Iconic Railway Clock
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Damn. We finally got a clock and now it's going to be gone
It would be very easy to change the clock face and still have a clock. This should not be a big deal at all.
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Or how about not using this particular clock face. There are a million others they could use instead.
Please. I never defended the clock graphic, which is obviously a ripoff. That doesn't make your Jobs quotation accurate.
Still has nothing to do with taking the "great artists steal" comment out of context.
the same??? Are you blind???
All Apple has to do to make this go away is to change the clock face to something better. I don't think this design is that great anyway.
Apple should have at least changed the second hand. Hypocrites. They always speak about the artistic design with their products, and this clock is a fine example of a well designed piece of art. Can't believe they would steal that of all things.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with everything you just said. Prices here are insane (e.g. we pay almost 10 times as much for mobile services as the Austrians). And yes - customer service and consumer rights are a fraking joke here. ESPECIALLY for the Post and the SBB. 1 year warranties, no returns possible (if they sell you broken crap, they'll gladly send it in for repairs and you'll get it back unrepaired after 6-12 weeks), online shops claiming that they have stuff in stock, take your money and then say they can't deliver (there's also no way to cancel your orders heres - once you've ordered, you're screwed). On the other hand, if you don't pay right away for pre-paid items, businesses will pretty much immediately forward the matter to the enforcement agency, which will result in you getting a negative entry in the registry, which, in turn, results in you never ever getting a credit or a mortgage again in your lifetime.
Hooray for Switzerland! Seriously - I was born and raised here. There's a reason why Switzerland's the richest fraking country in the world: they sure as hell know how to hoard money and to screw those who gave them the money. There's no other country in the world were tax evasion will end you up in prison for a lot longer than killing someone.
Yes, it's a ripoff.
But the hand thickness, minute marker thickness and larger minute marker thicknesses are all slightly different.
I think Apple may get off on this one. They didn't copy it millimeter by millimeter.
But the hand thickness, minute marker thickness and larger minute marker thicknesses are all slightly different.
I think Apple may get off on this one. They didn't copy it millimeter by millimeter.
You read me wrong: I am calling the average Swiss CUSTOMER stupid. Because the AVERAGE Swiss mentality is one of a tamed person not willing/used to complaining.
For them, everything the State does is right, and if it's being done in a certain way it is, indeed, the best way.
I remember trying to return a defective product at a Swiss store once, just to be asked a thousand questions as to imply that I was the one creating the defect.
Same for road works: ALL over the place, even when there is nothing to be fixed. No deadlines set, no care for the individual driver. They just think that you are supposed to withstand a single-lane autobahn for 40km without ever complaining.
And I haven't even started with restaurant service levels - abysmal when compared to places like Brazil and the US. It's almost as if everyone is doing you a favor, even when you are paying the highest prices on Earth for a tiny piece of beef.
It's ultimately the last communist country on Earth - but it works pretty well as long as money keeps flowing inside. And yes, on paper it's a really nice little place - organized, peaceful (except for crime-ridden Geneva), clean, beautiful landscapes etc...wonderful for tourists. But once you start discovering its idiosyncrasies it can get really annoying (and I am not saying other countries don't have their own problems, of course)...
p.s.: Finally, I don't think it's a language issue (although I admit that the French and Italian parts are better) - I work in French, English, Spanish and Portuguese and get by with my German. But almost every day I hear my German friends complaining about the same things; or my German-fluent wife, for that matter.
I'm sure Swiss Federal Railways believe in competition, they just don't want to be the clock face developer for the world, is that too much to ask?
As Samsung recently learned.
As Samsung recently learned.
Seriously Apple, go and create - don't just copy others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&noredirect=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU&noredirect=1
Correct. Just ask Apple when they went after the phones that look similar to iPhone.
At least they fix the roads here. I've seen a LOT worse in other countries.
Agreed. Same goes for shops - some staff almost feel insulted when you enter their shop.
WTF? Switzerland's the least communist country in the world - the whole country is reigned by one thing and one thing alone: money. The Swiss are born capitalists. The only aim in life here is to make sh**loads of money and to rub it in your neighbor's face by buying the Audi or BMW that's one bigger than the neighbor's Audi or BMW. I live in the countryside. I'm surrounded by farmers. All of them drive 80k BMWs and Audis - I don't recall seeing that back home in the US.
not really. Consumer laws and customer service are equally crappy in Ticino and in the Western part of Switzerland.
I don't think Apple is trying to "steal" the design and passing it off as their own in this case. It's a classic clock, it's obvious they are trying to use it as the original clock. The question is if the use of that design really is trademarked and if it's even trademarked BY the SBB or by Hans Hilfiker and if the SBB is trying to protect it, or just trying to get some money.
I personally believe that everyone's hard work should be protected so if the SBB does own the right, Apple should compensate them.
BUT on another note, this is not like the Samsung case at all. Apple is not stealing the clock look to SELL clocks. And by them using the clock look is not causing the SBB any financial losses so those who are asking for that $1B lawsuit are not being very realistic.
I personally believe that everyone's hard work should be protected so if the SBB does own the right, Apple should compensate them.
BUT on another note, this is not like the Samsung case at all. Apple is not stealing the clock look to SELL clocks. And by them using the clock look is not causing the SBB any financial losses so those who are asking for that $1B lawsuit are not being very realistic.
but the min. lines are a little thinner and the pantone color # is different. lol
Swiss are pioneers in modern design!
Swiss are pioneers in modern design!
