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What the heck happened to iOS6?

It's littered with cockups.

Tim Cook's Apple!

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The hour hand isn't as wide and the minute hand isn't as long.....I am curious to know the specifics on the patient.. its a freaking clock...there are digital and analog, other than that, they all look the same...

You can patent crazy stuff.

Apple got design patents of the iPad's rectangular shape with a screen in the front and the Macbook Air's wedge shape.
 
Yeah, I'd say that Apple has some splainin' to do and they'll have to make this right.

That said, this is a bit different than Apple v Samsung. If Apple was selling clocks, and stole their design to compete with THAT clock, that would be another story. It's one thing to get inspiration elsewhere, it's another thing to directly copy someone else's work to "compete" with them in the same market for the same customers.

Clearly Samsung still don't get what they did wrong... or then again, maybe they do and don't care. They are still selling lots of phones while other handset makers are struggling big-time.
 
Apple's getting their just deserts. That's WAY MORE obviously a copy than the Samsung Galaxy S, much less all the more recent Samsung phones that look nothing like an iPhone. I mean that's detail-for-detail obviously stolen. The only thing missing is the logo, LOL.

I seriously hope Apple gets slapped BIG TIME for this one. Really, really, big. $1 billion dollars big.

I agree with the principle of what Apple said - copying is wrong. I agree the original Samsung Galaxy S interface was just TOO close and Apple should've got something (though not $1 billion) from Samsung for it. But NOT any other Samsung device. They're not that similar at all.

This is a perfect copy people, even the original SGS wasn't a perfect replica of the interface.

P.S. Upon closer inspection it's not a perfect replica. The minute ticks and the arc of the hour hand are a bit different. Still, SO CLOSE it's virtually indistinguishable. Even the original SGS interface was very obviously not an iPhone at first glace.

They will issue a cease and desist letter and apple will just change it and that will be that
 
It's so deliciously ironic that iOS 6.0's Clock app has a clockface that is almost a perfect copy of the SBB railway clock face--including the seconds hand! SBB ought to sue Apple for US$1 billion in damages and take all the money Apple would have gotten from the Apple v. Samsung case. :p
 
hypocrites

--so are these iPhone 5's being given away or sold? It's selling a clock that is identical to the Swiss copyrighted clock...the ONLY difference is this clock has some additional functionality that the Swiss clock does not.

All in all...it's a blatant copy right infringement that shows Apple just steals what they want and that they are hypocrites.

Yeah, I'd say that Apple has some splainin' to do and they'll have to make this right.

That said, this is a bit different than Apple v Samsung. If Apple was selling clocks, and stole their design to compete with THAT clock, that would be another story. It's one thing to get inspiration elsewhere, it's another thing to directly copy someone else's work to "compete" with them in the same market for the same customers.

Clearly Samsung still don't get what they did wrong... or then again, maybe they do and don't care. They are still selling lots of phones while other handset makers are struggling big-time.
 
--so are these iPhone 5's being given away or sold? It's selling a clock that is identical to the Swiss copyrighted clock...the ONLY difference is this clock has some additional functionality that the Swiss clock does not.

All in all...it's a blatant copy right infringement that shows Apple just steals what they want and that they are hypocrites.

You're nothing but a hater!
 
Another copyright infringement by apple

Why do you guys complain about Samsung again?
 
Unfortunately, I have to agree with everything you just said. Prices here are insane (e.g. we pay almost 10 times as much for mobile services as the Austrians). And yes - customer service and consumer rights are a fraking joke here. ESPECIALLY for the Post and the SBB. 1 year warranties, no returns possible (if they sell you broken crap, they'll gladly send it in for repairs and you'll get it back unrepaired after 6-12 weeks), online shops claiming that they have stuff in stock, take your money and then say they can't deliver (there's also no way to cancel your orders heres - once you've ordered, you're screwed). On the other hand, if you don't pay right away for pre-paid items, businesses will pretty much immediately forward the matter to the enforcement agency, which will result in you getting a negative entry in the registry, which, in turn, results in you never ever getting a credit or a mortgage again in your lifetime.

Hooray for Switzerland! Seriously - I was born and raised here. There's a reason why Switzerland's the richest fraking country in the world: they sure as hell know how to hoard money and to screw those who gave them the money. There's no other country in the world were tax evasion will end you up in prison for a lot longer than killing someone.

You don't happen to post by the name Lostinbroad on another forum, do you? ;) I know a guy with blinders as big as yours...

Anyway, for those of us who have lived in a few countries (born in the USA, lived in a couple European countries), Switzerland isn't nearly as bad as you make it out. I've definitely had better customer service elsewhere, but the problems you mentioned are extreme cases and you do have easy ways to deal with them - you just haven't researched them or chose to ignore them, apparently. As for the cost, you failed to mention that salaries are significantly higher here, and taxes far lower, thus offsetting the cost of goods and services - particularly when you realize that, for example, a fully loaded BMW motorcycle is cheaper in Switzerland than neighboring Germany.

If you don't like Switzerland, leave - but don't be surprised if that toxic attitude of yours makes the next place just as difficult!

Anyway, I thought the clock looked familiar somehow, but I didn't peg it till I read the story. Clear ripoff. Fortunately for Apple, this is Switzerland, and the SBB will likely ask for reasonable license fees and nothing else.
 
Well, obviously Apple is better at copying than MacRumors: It's Tages-Anzeiger not Tanges-Anzeiger. Tages means daily whereas Tanges means nothing. Writing a name wrong twice is just rude.
 
That's most likely what happened. It's very difficult to control this kind of stuff but even if its a direct copy of the design, this is not an actual watch/clock product. SFR should be happy they've used it in the app.

Nah, do not go around it, it is a copy by the biggest corporation who has resources to create their own.

Usually companies like Apple hires an small company to develop that sort of things. For sure someone who traveled... a graphic designer, a beginner, came up with the idea thinking "no one will noticed" and he got congratulated for the design and it went into production.

I work at a TV station and we have people coming with ideas and some of them are copies and the more experienced like myself have to explain them "why not" and the implications. Now they know and when they see something they liked and saw somewhere, they ask.

Obviously it didn't happen here.
 
Apple should just do the right thing and pay them a few million dollars, its a great looking clock that shows Apple has taste :apple:

Given that iOS 6.0 with the Clock app that uses the offending clock face design is going to be on many millions of iPhones, iPads, and iPod touch devices, SBB should ask for a US$100 to US$200 million payment to settle this case.
 
This is called willingness to pay - the average Swiss customer is too passive and stupid to complain against the outrageously high prices of his country - that's how they preserve their artificial prosperity, which is of course financed by a healthy current account based on luxury products and financial services (as well as dictators' money, of course).

Not to mention customer service, which is surely among the worst in the world except for public services like the Post and SBB (i.e., the customer is NEVER right).

And yes, I do live in Switzerland.


Man,
now I read an older post from you. Sorry I was was wrong: you have no idea. What are you blathering about? What do you think why our wages are so high and many very good educated workers immigrate to our country. Ever heard from brain drain (not in your case...) due to high wages in a country?
 
Sorry.
The new iPad clock is not as "coooooooooool" as the Swiss one.

ok. Apple is really doomed.
But there is also a black version of the clock.
And for me, I don't really like the new clock....

Oh wait...
This is included in iOS6.
So this issue should be found in beta and GM version.
Why does this issue come out so late till now?!
 
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"damages"? How is the railroad "damaged" by the use of a pretty generic looking stupid clock face?

Big whoop. Buy some train passes for the poor and move on.
 
You don't happen to post by the name Lostinbroad on another forum, do you? ;) I know a guy with blinders as big as yours...

As a regular lurker and occasional poster on that other forum, that definitely raised a smile here.

Geting back to the main topic, this clock is used in Switzerland as a symbol of the SBB in the same way that the silhouette of an apple with a bite taken out of it is used as a symbol of some other company. The SBB makes a nice little income licensing the clock design to other companies, such as Mondaine, and if Apple can get away with pirating the design, then so will others, and that income source will dry up.

Personally I hope Apple licenses the design and adds it to the last-gen Nano, and I hope they include the pause on the second hand at the 12 o'clock position, that is so distinctive about the SBB clock.
 
I don't understand why the person who is in charge of it steals the style instead ask for permission for it and/or pay for it to copy. I would FIRE that guy from Apple TODAY!
 
the punishment ...

Since the SBB is owned by the state, and the state is owned by the people in Switzerland and since people in CH actually get to vote on proposal for new laws, I'd say we need to vote on the punishment for Apple's blatant disregard for our national pride

here's my proposal: instead of $$ (of CHF) we want free iPhone's for all, or at the very least jump to the front of the queue on the iphone release schedule for the next 10 years!

:D
 
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