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It's a huge inconvenience. If you are in an app and decide to stop notifications, you have to leave the app, go to settings, find the app, then disable it. It would make a lot more sense to simply have all app settings within the app.

Again, to each their own. I don't find it an inconvenience yet you do, so your statement isn't entirely correct.

I also don't get your argument if you are using turning on/off notifications as your example. You can turn off notifications centrally from Android the same as you can on iOS. You also can go into many iOS 3rd Party apps that support notifications to turn them on/off, change sounds, etc. Personally, I find it more convenient to handle settings from one spot rather than opening each app individually. I mean some major apps handle notifications settings poorly, e.g. Facebook.

All iOS is doing is adding extra layer of customization on its own settings. I like my SMS/iMessages to pop up as alerts and produce sound because it makes it easier for me to notice and respond. However, with GroupMe and Hangouts (in which I get messages more frequently) I would rather the messages appear as a banners with no sounds, just so I know its there but its not constantly interrupting my phone. No apps, have that kind of flexibility on Android or iOS.
 
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It's a huge inconvenience. If you are in an app and decide to stop notifications, you have to leave the app, go to settings, find the app, then disable it. It would make a lot more sense to simply have all app settings within the app.
With regards to notifications, I currently have 203 applications that I know exactly how to shut up or customize at any given time. I could also restore my phone from scratch, install all the apps from iTunes, and then individually customize notifications from one spot on all of them without loading any of them into memory. The notification settings are also backed up with iTunes/iCloud backups, so if I want to restore or switch phones, I can just restore from a backup, and my notifications will show up exactly how I set them up to be previously on the new phone. I think actual settings like user accounts should be kept in the app (like they usually are), but for me, keeping all notifications in one spot is a huge benefit in most cases. I think someone new to the platform wouldn't find this method very beneficial since they don't have a large app library to manage, but once a user has quite a few years worth of iOS apps under their belt, it's nice to have the standard interface. I would also argue that it's a lot nicer for privacy settings to be set up the way they are for location settings so that you can tell at a glance which apps can access your location at any given time.
 
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Approximately how many apps come preinstalled (can't delete) on an iPhone?
Specifically, Verizon.
 
I was on the iPhone back in 2008 with the 3G. In 2011 I moved to Android and now I'm waiting for my iPhone 6s to arrive. It will be interesting going back to iOS after 5 years of Android. My reason for switching, I want to be on same ecosystem as what I have in my house and with my wife. I also want timely updates for security and the OS .

I think Apple's iOS apps are have less compatibility issues compared to Android. I will miss the notification system and in a way I won't with Android. Some my of my issues with notifications on Android is they don't always come through, or I get repeated notifications, or they can be delayed by quite a bit. Both platforms offer strengths and weaknesses. Who knows, I may switch back to Android in a couple years but its nice for all of us to have a choice. :)
 
Approximately how many apps come preinstalled (can't delete) on an iPhone?
Specifically, Verizon.
The iPhone doesn't do anything differently with regards to apps on any carriers. (Think Nexus) It is getting up there though in the number of apps that can't be uninstalled. At this point in time, there are 34:
Activity (but this only shows up if you pair a watch)
App Store
Calculator
Calendar
Camera
Clock
Compass
Contacts
FaceTime
Find Friends
Find iPhone
Game Center
Health
iBooks
iTunes Store
Mail
Maps
Messages
Music
News
Notes
Phone
Photos
Podcasts
Reminders
Safari
Settings
Stocks
Tips
Videos
Voice Memos
Wallet
Watch
Weather
Apple says that these apps contain important parts of system services. For instance, the Videos app could contain the video player for Safari, but I could agree with anyone who says that it's getting to be a bit much.
 
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Notifications on my Galaxy S4 running KitKat 4.4.2 aren't nearly as useful as they are on iOS for someone who gets lots of work emails. Once more than one email has been received while the phone is asleep, the Galaxy notification just says you have 2, 3, 4,... emails waiting. In iOS you can still see each one previewed in the notification screen. You then have to wake the phone and go to the mail app to see which might be critical.
 
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When the phone comes, can I Import my google (chrome) bookmarks into safari? I really appreciate hearing all this. I plan to try and move away from Google and use all the apple apps but all I know is Android. I've literally never used an iPhone (obviously held one, but not more than a few minutes). So I'm taking this pre-order time to research how to make a smooth transition.
 
When the phone comes, can I Import my google (chrome) bookmarks into safari? I really appreciate hearing all this. I plan to try and move away from Google and use all the apple apps but all I know is Android. I've literally never used an iPhone (obviously held one, but not more than a few minutes). So I'm taking this pre-order time to research how to make a smooth transition.

Start here...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.movetoios

C
 
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Two months have now passed since I switched to iPhone 6s. I have been very openminded and eager learner to get used to iOS enviroment.

But...

After many generations of iPhones, I am surprised that the iPhones operating system is so poorly coded. Integration of the apps into the iOS is so weak that at some occasions it seems that I am using a Korean 5 dollar replica iFone. It's easy to blaim the 3rd party apps developers for weak coding, but the simple fact that amount of errors in even native apps like Mail, Safari and Calendar resembles Swiss cheese, is shocking.

Its not only amount of errors in coding, but also missing basic features, which has been in other phones for years. And dont get me started on the useless keyboard...
I heard so many good things about iPhone, I was ready for a full commitment with a iPhone daily life after jumping away from Android.
But this new daily life is unpractical and rather buggy.
The main problem is that iPhones ecosystem is immature, its made for basic limited leisure time activities. For business its worthless, if you hear someone says the opposite, well they either don’t know better or has swallowed the pill “its a good looking and fashionable gadget”. But aesthetically speaking the last good looking iPhone was 5s, the newer models look like any other grey smart phone.

... again a but, I will give iPhones ecosystem new 1-2 tryout months and see if there is any light in the end of the tunnel.
 
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For business its worthless, if you hear someone says the opposite, well they either don’t know better or has swallowed the pill “its a good looking and fashionable gadget”. But aesthetically speaking the last good looking iPhone was 5s, the newer models look like any other grey smart phone.
Right ok mate lol.
Best not disagree with you or share any positive experiences then in case me convey ourselves as fashionistas.
 
Two months have now passed since I switched to iPhone 6s. I have been very openminded and eager learner to get used to iOS enviroment.

But...

After many generations of iPhones, I am surprised that the iPhones operating system is so poorly coded. Integration of the apps into the iOS is so weak that at some occasions it seems that I am using a Korean 5 dollar replica iFone. It's easy to blaim the 3rd party apps developers for weak coding, but the simple fact that amount of errors in even native apps like Mail, Safari and Calendar resembles Swiss cheese, is shocking.

Its not only amount of errors in coding, but also missing basic features, which has been in other phones for years. And dont get me started on the useless keyboard...
I heard so many good things about iPhone, I was ready for a full commitment with a iPhone daily life after jumping away from Android.
But this new daily life is unpractical and rather buggy.
The main problem is that iPhones ecosystem is immature, its made for basic limited leisure time activities. For business its worthless, if you hear someone says the opposite, well they either don’t know better or has swallowed the pill “its a good looking and fashionable gadget”. But aesthetically speaking the last good looking iPhone was 5s, the newer models look like any other grey smart phone.

... again a but, I will give iPhones ecosystem new 1-2 tryout months and see if there is any light in the end of the tunnel.

When people run out of logic, reason and iq they start arguing the subjective.

Wtf is a Korean ifone? Lol smh
 
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There is no doubt that Android has more features and has more future-thinking features....google now, the whole predicting your desires thing.

There is no doubt that Apple is EXTREMELY, CRAZY weak in artificial intelligence and will essentially continue to be so because of their commitment to privacy. AI requires lots of data, and Apple won't collect it. If the world decides that the privacy tradeoff is worth the benefits of AI, then Apple is in a bag of hurt. Without data you can be sure that they are not pulling a rabbit out of a hat in terms of some magic new algorithm. All the AI ninjas are at Google, and for sure not at Apple.

Apple is a hardware company, and to me this is why they are successful. Their phones are normally sized and are simple. But one day AI will become simple and less invasive and awkard and normal and expected. When that happens, Apple is in trouble because there is nothing coming down their pipeline that will let them compete at Google levels. Siri is a joke compared to Google Now.

So if hardware is the future, then Apple's fine. If it's AI, then Apple is too far behind to catch up. As the smartphone market is now 10 years old, Android has clearly caught up in hardware and software. Extrapolate another 10 years and it's easy to see that Apple may have a problem on its hands, especially since the iwatch is basically like an ipad....something that had some momentum but ultimately could not pass the test of real world usefulness over time.
 
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i personally don't see any good reason to start subjecting myself in this "future AI ease your life" thing just yet.
so i'm perfectly good and comfy in the privates of my phone.

maybe in a few years things will have to go that route anyway.
it's quite a few more Iphone generations from today :D
 
Two months have now passed since I switched to iPhone 6s. I have been very openminded and eager learner to get used to iOS enviroment.

But...

After many generations of iPhones, I am surprised that the iPhones operating system is so poorly coded. Integration of the apps into the iOS is so weak that at some occasions it seems that I am using a Korean 5 dollar replica iFone. It's easy to blaim the 3rd party apps developers for weak coding, but the simple fact that amount of errors in even native apps like Mail, Safari and Calendar resembles Swiss cheese, is shocking.

Its not only amount of errors in coding, but also missing basic features, which has been in other phones for years. And dont get me started on the useless keyboard...
I heard so many good things about iPhone, I was ready for a full commitment with a iPhone daily life after jumping away from Android.
But this new daily life is unpractical and rather buggy.
The main problem is that iPhones ecosystem is immature, its made for basic limited leisure time activities. For business its worthless, if you hear someone says the opposite, well they either don’t know better or has swallowed the pill “its a good looking and fashionable gadget”. But aesthetically speaking the last good looking iPhone was 5s, the newer models look like any other grey smart phone.

... again a but, I will give iPhones ecosystem new 1-2 tryout months and see if there is any light in the end of the tunnel.
It would be great if you can point out the specifics of your issues instead of just using general terms like "poorly coded" or "swiss cheese" or "immature."

And it's worthless for business? Not too sure what kind of "business" you do, but I have seen plenty of companies, big and small, using iOS. Many IT departments said that deployment on iOS is easier than Android, and that iOS is definitely more enterprise friendly than Android.
 
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As far as business use goes, IOS devices dominate, they are everywhere. Stores, clerks, pilots with major airlines, my employer uses and recommends iOS only. iOS essentially has no competition when it comes to mobile business use
 
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There is no doubt that Android has more features and has more future-thinking features....google now, the whole predicting your desires thing.

There is no doubt that Apple is EXTREMELY, CRAZY weak in artificial intelligence and will essentially continue to be so because of their commitment to privacy. AI requires lots of data, and Apple won't collect it. If the world decides that the privacy tradeoff is worth the benefits of AI, then Apple is in a bag of hurt. Without data you can be sure that they are not pulling a rabbit out of a hat in terms of some magic new algorithm. All the AI ninjas are at Google, and for sure not at Apple.

Apple is a hardware company, and to me this is why they are successful. Their phones are normally sized and are simple. But one day AI will become simple and less invasive and awkard and normal and expected. When that happens, Apple is in trouble because there is nothing coming down their pipeline that will let them compete at Google levels. Siri is a joke compared to Google Now.

So if hardware is the future, then Apple's fine. If it's AI, then Apple is too far behind to catch up. As the smartphone market is now 10 years old, Android has clearly caught up in hardware and software. Extrapolate another 10 years and it's easy to see that Apple may have a problem on its hands, especially since the iwatch is basically like an ipad....something that had some momentum but ultimately could not pass the test of real world usefulness over time.
So apple is a hardware company that writes software, and google is a software company that produces hardware?

In the year 2021 cancer http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/05/cure_for_cancer_possible_in_5.htmland is supposed to be cured but it probably won't be; neither will this thing called AI be a normal part of our lives.

As far as easy to see that apple has a problem? And android has future-thinking features? Okay nice post but a bit hyperbolic.
 
When people run out of logic, reason and iq they start arguing the subjective.

Wtf is a Korean ifone? Lol smh
That person is clearly entitled to an opinion, but the opinion is a bit convulted? slamming the iphone for apples' sloppy coding while attempting to make a dig consumers who purchase the device as being "fashionistas"?
 
If you are going to go with Android you need to get a Nexus device. The Nexus 6p is amazing. I have the 6s and 6p (rooted, pure nexus ROM with elemental kernal). Both are great and I love switching back and forth. Its unfortunate Google doesn't market the Nexus device like the iPhone.
 
they could have done it already couple years ago, but atleast now they should do it. nexus have been their test device, but android has been very stable during past years, so i dont think they should stick in the same old marketing anymore.

they should build a high quality phone, not a phone which feels mediocre. of course you can always buy a better one but then there is a middle man between updates. what i mean it is that google could build a new line for people wanting to get all benefits having a pure android (straight from google) but also getting an overall experience of having a good, premium device on their hands.

as good as nexus is nowadays, i still looks and feels like a guinea pig. they should keep the design of nexus5 and make it even better. but again they changed the whole design to look something differend again. nexus5 was a good one, it only needed to make it look and feel like a premium phone.
 
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Notifications on my Galaxy S4 running KitKat 4.4.2 aren't nearly as useful as they are on iOS for someone who gets lots of work emails. Once more than one email has been received while the phone is asleep, the Galaxy notification just says you have 2, 3, 4,... emails waiting. In iOS you can still see each one previewed in the notification screen. You then have to wake the phone and go to the mail app to see which might be critical.

if you use a widget for emails on android you can see the same on the lockscreen and on the homescreen. been using widgets for years on android. and if you keep a widget on the home screen you can see the latest emails only just checking the screen without opening any app or so...
 
if you use a widget for emails on android you can see the same on the lockscreen and on the homescreen. been using widgets for years on android. and if you keep a widget on the home screen you can see the latest emails only just checking the screen without opening any app or so...
It's all subjective though. At the end of the day all phones allow you to pretty much do the same tasks, it's just up to the user to decide what they prefer. I prefer clean home screens and widgets tucked away on pull down menus but I can also appreciate widgets can be useful on the home screen.
 
I press the Assistive Touch button, and then hit mute. It's incredibly stupid how we can't hang-up/reject an incoming call.

Errm.. Hit the lock button once to mute and twice to reject. I actually like this implementation, you can even do it while the phone is in your pocket.
 
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